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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 2:07pm #65304
SaltyCatsFanParticipantnbadraft.net is one of many websites and analysts that is just flat out biased against Kentucky. Absolutely no way Malik Monk and Bam Adebayo aren’t top 10 picks next year. Wenyen Gabriel should be a lottery pick by seasons end, at least first round now. Briscoe will be drafted, possibly first round. This happens every single year and analysts want to pretend they’re not being biased. May I remind you how long it took this site to project Davis & Towns as the top pick. Go ahead and comment if you agree and also if you disagree but when, not if you’re wrong, remember this post. Don’t believe me, just watch. Go cats
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:00pm #1088708

Robb_CParticipantWant some cheese with that Whine?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:19pm #1088710

Bankroll PJParticipantLol that you waited 5 years for this one posts…..
Additionally, I think you may be a bit Kentucky biased. Scouts and are being very conservative with Malik Monk because they still don’t know what position he’s going to play or who’s he going to guard. While extremely athletic, it’s still a question mark if he can transition to the PG position and he’s undersized for a SG. Bam Adebayo has done absolutely nothing to show that he’s a surefire top 10 pick right. He’s still very raw on both ends on the floor, despite being a great rebounder. Gabriel is raw is well, but he’s good enough to get drafted right now, I just don’t think he’s lottery bound. He’s got a lot of potential but I hope he comes back for another year.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:28pm #1088711
ph90702Bam Adebayo wouldn’t get on the floor in the NBA right now.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:46pm #1088714
SaltyCatsFanParticipantAnd Harry Giles would? Oh wait…
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:45pm #1088713
SaltyCatsFanParticipantLol that you have nothing better to do with your life but sit here and pretend to be an analyst. Get out and do something. I may be biased but I guarantee I know more about the game than you do. If you think Grayson Allen, Marques Bolden, Terrance Ferguson (which btw what have the latter two shown?) and others ranked higher than Bam and Monk are better NBA prospects then you, my friend, are a stupid idiot and I’ll see you in June. Also what an expert you are that you have to go by everyone elses opinion lol
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 4:35pm #1088719

Bankroll PJParticipantI played ball in college and I’m in med school right now bro lol. I very much plan on doing something with my life and still love the game of basketball which is why I come here.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 4:43pm #1088721
SaltyCatsFanParticipantCongrats that makes you an expert draft analyst even though you keep referencing "some scouts" who I’m sure you didn’t contact directly and I really hope you’re being honest but you need to get your priorities straight brother if I was in med school I wouldn’t have time to waste on this stuff
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:56pm #1088729

Bankroll PJParticipantBut your’e not so you have no idea how we get to allocate our limited free time. If all you did was read and study all day, you would probably want to find some time do the things that enjoy too. For me, those things are still to play and talk about basketball. Have a great day
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 6:07pm #1088730
SaltyCatsFanParticipantYou too I apologize if I offended you but I didn’t ask for you or anyone to make a smartass comment all I did was voice my displeasure as a diehard Kentucky fan and you have no idea who you’re talking to so next time if you don’t wanna finish a war, let’s not start it
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/26/2016 - 12:41pm #1088800

-Aria-ParticipantI know this is off topic, but really excited to see another med student here, what specialty are you aimming for, I’m probably gonna go into ortho myself.
but yea thats pretty exciting
-sorry again about being off topic
0- Posted on: Sun, 11/27/2016 - 4:31am #1088812

Bankroll PJParticipantI’m also aiming for ortho. This is my 1st year of med school though, so I’m still in the very early stages of this process.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 3:44pm #1088712

Andv1 WaitingParticipantI am not biased to any College it is straight up about talent when I go about ranking prospects..
As for next years draft has a reasonable depth sort of similar to the 08/09 draft so some of the players would do better coming out next year if they want to go higher..See this years fallers to how declaring to early can go and see Blake griffin waiting 1 year-would have been top 8-15 in 08 vs number 1 in 09..
There are two reasons those players may not be in the top 10.
1) The teams that people project will be top 10 may have no need for them
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2) Those prospects may have some Rawness or flaws about them which scouts/common fans can see,for ever A.D,Towns and Booker there is A WCS,Daniel Orton,Marquis Teague,Skal L and the Harrison twins…People may just see them in the later at this point unfortunately.
No hate on Kentucky, but to be completely honest the reasons you go to Kentucky to experience what the NBA hype/life is like so you can understand what you are getting yourself into(Hence the stacked prospect classess). This can be a huge benefit for your John walls,Boogies,A.D,Bookers and KATs but it doesn’t fully help the players with Raw skill sets as they tend to think they are better than they actually are…
However the issue is this if you are going there to develop your skill set/improve your overall game you may want to choose another school who will take time to develop you as a player, as Calapri will try have another batch to replace you asap forcing you into the draft regardless(even thought he will never openly admit it)..
Which is where players may have there stock lower than it should be or struggle to stick in the NBA as there skill set isn’t developed enough to keep them around..As lets be real the NBA will spit you out and send you overseas faster than you can say Jimmer Fredette lol..
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 4:03pm #1088715
SaltyCatsFanParticipantFirst of all, WCS was drafted 6th and hasn’t had the chance to prove himself yet. He also wasn’t supposed to be nearly that good. And recruiting rankings mean absolutely nothing anyways and this happens at every school so why are you blaming Kentucky? and if you don’t think Kentucky is taking over the NBA right now you are sadly mistaken. Orton & Teague are exceptions but how can you call those other guys busts? Skal is a rookie and hasn’t even had a chance yet. And Aaron was undrafted and Andrew is doing pretty well right now for a second round pick. And let’s not act like things would be any different right now if they would’ve chosen different schools. Calipari is the best coach hands down at developing NBA players and you guys consider him unethical and so did coach K but look at what he’s doing now..
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 4:19pm #1088717
SaltyCatsFanParticipantSee you guys in June. Happy thanksgiving, now I’ve got a life to live but when the draft occurs I’ll be back and I’ll be the first to admit whether I was right or wrong and I expect you guys to do the same. Also, practice scouting players yourself and quit listening to all these so called experts and maybe you could actually do this for a living but until then I’m not listening to people who spend countless hours of their life making zero money posting on NBAdraft.net
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 4:35pm #1088720
SaltyCatsFanParticipantFinally, for the record, here’s my top 10 based on rankings not a mock which is what you guys should be doing at this point in the season: 1. Markelle Fultz 2. Josh Jackson 3. Lonzo Ball 4. De’Aaron Fox 5. Frank Ntilikina 6. Jayson Tatum 7. Malik Monk 8. Bam Adebayo 9. Miles Bridges 10. Jonathan Isaac… Harry Giles is the best prospect in this class but I just can’t trust him right now enough to put him on this list.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 1:13am #1088738

holefillers1ParticipantThis guy picks 10 freshman. Sounds like you have a handle things dude. Won’t need any of your updated mocks till next July though.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 9:14am #1088755
SaltyCatsFanParticipantIt’s almost 2017. Get with the times buddy this freshman class may be the best I’ve seen and I don’t think it would be the first time freshmen dominated the lottery
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:10pm #1088722

Andv1 WaitingParticipantI am not blaming Kentucky just answering your initial question to why your chosen prospect aren’t in the top 10…In most mock drafts..Geez calm down lol
I was talking about: Ranking the prospects for a mock draft/Nba possibilties…
I didn’t say anything about Kentucky not taking over the NBA…
I also said the reason Monk/Bam may not be in the top 10 is for the above reasons..
Didn’t say anything about Calapari being Unethical..I only said he usually has a prospect class linedup meaning your time at Kentucky has already been decided for you in some ways..But he will never fully admit that as that would hurt his branding(lets at least be reall about that)..
Didn’t mention busts I mentioned Raw or lacking Skill sets= Not being able to possibly stick due to not being developed properly.. As for WCS he is a 6th pick and can’t get on the court under two coaches now…This is without even mentioning the trade rumors saying they want to move on from him…As for the harrison twins if they had gone the year before when less was known about them they may have gone first round vs what you saw(which proved Calipari didn’t develop them any more than 1st year there).
Also to further prove my point outside of D-rose(was already amazing before Cal),Tyreeke evans(who you could argue he did nothing for down in memphis as his game stayed the same) and John wall (who you can argue he didn’t teach anything to). How many Point guards has Calapari had go top 5 since?
Outside of Boogie A.D and KAT(who he probably developed more with Dom Repub than Kentucky) how many Top 5 bigs has he had?
He gets top 5 talent shows them what the Nba Life is going to be and how to handle the media and then pushes them on with minimal player development..Its proven as most of the players games don’t change that much from Highschool to the Day they leave..There is nothing wrong with it,but it is what it is..
As for developing players that is subject to depending on what Position:
For a while there George town used to Produce Big men at a reasonable rate,
Duke has always been good for forwards/wings
North Carolina is alright with Wings and a lot of top 5 picks
Indiana has its moments
UCLA usually produces respectable Guards
Marquette has had a few good wings..
Syracuse has had there share of Players
MSU is coming on now also as people want the next Draymond G
Kansas is similar to Kentucky gets the prospects then moves them on..But they did further develop Embiid so give them that much.Even he admited that.
and so on..
So to say there is only one good Player developer that is incorrect also..It depends on who can get the best talent(This gets more lottery picks but player development not so much) and either develop it to be the best..Calapri gets the best talent and Coach K is now trying to take that path in some ways even though he used to be more develop then let them leave(That much is true) as for fully develops the players it that is subject to debate..Those would be the coaches that can make the Tim Duncan(who took up basketball really late due to being a swimmer), Damian Lillards,Kawhi leonards of college world stay a long time help there skill set improve and have people go well didn’t see that coming,The Paul Georges and So on they cultivate the talent then the Player leaves and they come in and produce from day 1..That is better player Development in my eyes…If Cal kept his players for two years you will see what I mean how much is natural talent vs how much does he actually develop
again nothing against Kentucky(read this part especially)…
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:29pm #1088723
SaltyCatsFanParticipantOkay, if Cal didn’t develop anyone Players wouldn’t keep coming back and thanking him over and over again and the team would look the same at the end of the season as they did at the beginning of the season which has never been the case. Do you think that 14 team would’ve been a title team anywhere else? and as for Kansas you can’t say they’re the sole reason Embiid developed and look at their previous track record with elite recruits including Wiggins (also see Josh Selby). All im saying is if you wanna be one and done, come to Kentucky because I didn’t say coach cal is the only good player developer I was saying he is the best at getting players ready for the NBA in a short amount of time, hands down. Quit trying to argue that. And you’re acting like 3 top 5 bigs in the last few years is no big deal. And 3 top 5 point guards is no big deal? What other coach has done that? And like I said, every single one of those players constantly visits and thanks Cal so he obviously did something right. Sit down you’re making a fool out of yourself just like I am by continuing to reply to this crap
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:35pm #1088724
SaltyCatsFanParticipant14 was runner up. My bad
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 6:55pm #1088732

Andv1 WaitingParticipantHe helped them get paid that simple, They made the Nba due to having a stacked team(Which Cal/they helped assemble) showing the talent the already had off on a big stage..Don’t get me wrong he is probably a nice person which is always another reason they go see him but they probably just want to thank him for make the team they played on happen… The John wall super team was the first and gave CAL a template how to continue it and how to further train players for the Media/NBA.
You said ” Cal is the best coach hands Down at developing NBA talent"-This doesn’t imply that you mean at having the best one and dones. Which is there for everyone to see so if anyone is looking like a fool it is you unfortunately..
So I will put it really simply for as you clearly don’t understand what I am saying:
Cal gets a super team who are already talented you usually win,Usually gets as many top 20 prospects as possible-Hence minimal development from Cal. This is why Monk and Bam are probably so low due to what I have previously mentioned..Scouts see this and most who are just basketball fans see this-See why Skal preseason no 1 prospect fell all the way down to 28 in the draft.
They win you look good on national stage then leave for NBA draft-Hence the recruits he has in waiting who see CAl push out the prospect after prospect to the draft thinking they will make some money going there….
SO to put it this way Cal is just the best recruiter not necessarily the best coach and he now knows how to train them for the media/lifestyle side which he has learnt from the NBA experience he has- which he flamed out at big time…
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 7:15pm #1088735
SaltyCatsFanParticipantI’m just gonna quit arguing with you. But for you to say Cal doesn’t develop players despite what the players say but you’ll take Embiid’s comment in a literal context is just stupid. And I think it’s funny you’re not getting any points yet you still think you know what you’re talking about
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:46pm #1088727
SaltyCatsFanParticipantAnd if Towns did all his developing in the DR, why didn’t he start dominating until later in the season?
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:40pm #1088726
SaltyCatsFanParticipantAlso I mean no disrespect to anyone who posts on this site cause I’m clearly being hypocritical; just the ones who wanna disagree with me lol
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 5:49pm #1088728
SaltyCatsFanParticipantNow please, before I go to bed, one more person fault Cal for doing in one year what it takes other coaches four years to do.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 6:51pm #1088731
BiggysmallsParticipantDon’t think you’ll find people to fault Cal for that though I wouldn’t be so quick to paint him as Jesus.
He’s a very good coach and he’s improved a lot as an in-game guy.
With regards to this site – it’s got Fox projected as a top-10 pick. It’s had Adebayo projected to go high and I’m sure he’ll be in and out of their lottery as the season goes on and it updates. Monk might make his way in there too so I’m not sure why SaltyCatsFan seems so salty about that.
Kentucky gets plenty of hype from every major sports network and site…it’s ok if one site isn’t so quick to jump on the bandwagon. Doesn’t mean they are right or wrong. It just means they might want to see more from an 18 year old kid.
From what I’ve seen, Fox is a speed demon. I haven’t seen him shoot a jumper yet so I’m curious to see if he can. If/when he does, I’d imagine he’ll be a really good player. Already a pretty active defender.
Monk has been impressive. From everything I’d read going in, he was a volume shooter whose shot selection was borderline terrible in high school. He’s been really good for them. Not sure if he’s a great NBA 2 guard because he’s a little undersized but he’s also got plenty of athleticism.
Not that impressed with Adebayo honestly. He looks like he’s 29 but I haven’t seen him do anything besides be huge and dunk. If he starts playing better, I’m sure people will come around on him and that’ll make Kentucky scary good – if they aren’t already "scary" good.
It’s Thanksgiving CatsFan…Your team is one of the 3 or 4 best in the country and maybe the best. No need to be so salty about a lack of respect on one random NBA site.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 7:07pm #1088733
SaltyCatsFanParticipantPlease don’t bring Jesus into this. I’m already very ashamed for losing my temper. You’re exactly right I should just let their play do the talking but at the end of the year if it turns out to be true these guys are gonna have to look in the mirror and admit they were wrong and I won’t rub it in anyone’s face but I will be quick to remind them of my correct prediction and I will also admit if I’m wrong. And there’s just as much negativity as there is positivity. How could you make anything negative out of the way they’re playing right now at the beginning of the season with very little experience on the team? but like you said I shouldn’t care but at the end of the day if I didn’t say this I couldn’t tell anyone I was right if I end up being right lol. Thank you for being the voice of reason and I really mean this in no biased opinion but you are the only person whose comment has made sense. I just don’t see Monk and Bam going 18 and 25 respectively. There’s just no way!
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 1:25am #1088739

holefillers1ParticipantBam will come out this year because he has no choice. Just like Skal, he will leave because Coach Cal won’t have time for him with next years recruits. He is an undersized center who can’t shoot, score or shoot a free throw(63%). You ever see that movie PCU with Jeremy Piven…GO TO SLEEP!!..GO TO SLEEP!!!
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 4:16am #1088744
SaltyCatsFanParticipantHe’s a 6-11 260 lb man child. That’s not very undersized; you should see a side by side of he and Dwight Howard at the same age. And he has shooting ability if you haven’t actually watched him but Cal wants him to stay in the paint because that’s where he dominates
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 8:24am #1088749

holefillers1Participant6’11 is funny. More like 6’8.5 in sox. I’ve seen your team play. Gotta be honest. All of your prospects have limitations. I see no top pick here. Monk is awesome at dunking and shooting threes…so is every guy in the D League. Fox is very raw and in my opinion light years behind a true top prospect like Fultz.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 9:12am #1088754
SaltyCatsFanParticipantNever said anyone was going to be the top pick hence my rankings. Dude just stop why does it matter what his height is in socks when they play in shoes? Maybe I overstretched he’s 6-10 though. And has a better vertical leap than most guards. I don’t care if you’ve seen my team play because unlike you, I get paid to express my opinion and you guys are making a joke of yourselves right now.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 9:26am #1088756

holefillers1ParticipantUsing the word "Maybe " is a stretch. 6"11 is just plain wrong. Thomas robinson, Derek williams, what about that kid from Kansas who was supposed to be the man. Big guy, sucked. Skal…sucked. You don’t know talent. You should give that money back to whoever is paying you.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:27am #1088758
SaltyCatsFanParticipantQuit acting like you watch basketball. Neither one of those guys were the physical specimen Bam is and DERRICK Williams was a perimeter-oriented SF/PF tweener. I’m not arguing what they’re going to do in the NBA I’m arguing draft position. There are busts every year and if you think you predicted those two you’re probably lying to yourself. Neither one of those guys play anything Bam and quit justifying your opinion by bringing up the past. See you in June as well and I expect you as well to admit whenever you’re wrong
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 10:56am #1088759

holefillers1ParticipantYou have allowed your bias towards Kentucky to put limitations on your scouting ability. Now you are walking it back….don’t trip!
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/24/2016 - 9:36pm #1088736
Hype MachineLol great thread.
Whats your take on Humphries pro prospects?
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 3:54am #1088743
SaltyCatsFanParticipantHe definitely has a chance to be drafted in the second round if he keeps improving and there’s still time to get better but at this point, he needs to stay in school. He’s still 18, may I remind you. Bottom line, Kentucky will have 3 or 4 lottery picks next year and I believe those 3 will be in the top 10. Apologies for saying you guys listen to the so called experts I was clearly wrong with all this blatant disagreement. I’d bet my house that my knowledge of this is better than anyone on this site. Now I’ll see you in June I’m about to go discuss the stupid idiots on the NBAdraft.net forum. As Jay Bilas would say, I gotta go to work
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 8:19am #1088747

delfamParticipantIsn’t Adebayo too young to get drafted in this year’s draft? That would make this thread irrelevant.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 9:08am #1088752
SaltyCatsFanParticipantNo? You might be thinking of Humphries. Last year. You guys have no idea who you’re trying to argue with and how many people have listened to your nonsensical comments today. Call me when you get a degree in journalism and have your own radio show. People who know absolutely nothing about Kentucky basketball, please stop commenting. And if you guys aren’t trying to predict what the draft will look like at the end of the season why in the world are you creating mock drafts? Again, if you think any NBA team will take Grayson Allen in the lottery next year you know absolutely nothing about the NBA.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 11:02am #1088760

holefillers1ParticipantJust curious what your NBA comp is for Bam. Also you should check out Lauri Markkanen.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 11:56am #1088763

holefillers1ParticipantWhere did you go? Anyway, to close out this sorry exchange of ideas. I feel like you should cross your fingers and yours toes that Bam can move to the center spot in the NBA and become something like Clint Capela. That is an appropriate "ceiling" comp. Good day sir.
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 12:31pm #1088764

Robb_CParticipantIf Tom Izzo coached Bam for two years, We would see great development.. I know Calipari pitches these recruits a dream and feeds some with an empty spoon. Calipari was very fortunate landing Cousins and Davis both these guys were extremely skilled before they stepped foot on Kentuckys campus.. Those types of recruits dont come out of every draft class so anyone telling me Calipari develops players can save me that BS.. majority his PGs are in the top ten in turnovers in the NBA right now!! Derrick Rose had problems running Hoibergs offense last year, watch film he still has problems with passing fundamentals something Calipari should of addressed when he had Rose..
And Saltycat as far as you criticizing people on here because they’re passionate about the game and take time to post information and opinions is nothing sort of hypocritical.. Youd be surprised how many people I know personally in the league and in college who read this site.. It’s very transparent you’re a little concerned future recruits might read something on here that sparks attention about the Kentucky program..
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 1:02pm #1088765
Hype MachineI’ve also had league personnel get in touch with me about this forum.
They all wanna know when the Hype Machine is going to drop another draftnet pipebomb. The very type that consistently rocks the industry to its core.
Soon.
Soon.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 3:15pm #1088770

holefillers1ParticipantWell said. I love Izzo. Always has his team ready come tourney time. Always has a tough hard nosed kid from Flint.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 6:15pm #1088777
SaltyCatsFanParticipantBecause anything being said has been proven?
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 2:49pm #1088767
SaltyCatsFanParticipantYou should try working some day, sir. I’m done I’ll see you in June.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 6:10pm #1088776
SaltyCatsFanParticipantLauri Markkanen is terrific but let’s get to the point. Comparisons don’t matter but Bam’s ceiling is much higher than Clint Capela. You haters won’t like this, but I say Shawn Kemp.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 4:40pm #1088772

raybeasParticipantBecause I hate Kentucky (too afraid to come to Bloomington), and I don’t want to be wrong. Then I saw you blahblahblah about current yUK players (yawn) and skipped down until you said “Calipari is the best coach hands down at developing NBA players” and I literally laughed out loud.
“Coach” Cal isn’t even the best at developing NBA players in his own state (Pitino). Signing five-star recruits and turning them into draft picks is NOT developing players. “Coach” Cal is without a doubt a world class, Hall of Fame-level recruiter. He is in no way a player developer. He is a ‘roll out the basketballs and go call/text next years recruits’ type of coach. Just ask Alex Poythress or the Harrisons. They were all top 10 recruits in their class, and couldn’t (or barley) get drafted after 4 years in Lex. Then you’ve got players like Daniel Orton, Marquis Teague, Doron Lamb, James Young who were five-star guys who didn’t improve at Kentucky, but got drafted anyways, and are out of the L or barely hanging on.
When you mainly sign five-star players, your bench should always be among the tops in the nation. Kentucky never goes more than 7 or 8 players deep, because the players who don’t play never improve. Or they need the “bench players” to be four year guys who will have a good GPA regardless of their basketball ability, so everyone stays eligible.
In short…Kuck Fentucky
0- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 6:04pm #1088775
SaltyCatsFanParticipantWho has Pitino put in the NBA lately? And if you’re an IU fan I could argue that they’re the ones who are afraid because they don’t want to play on a neutral site. Why would we go back to Bloomington after you guys put us in danger by storming the court. You’re Indiana you shouldn’t be storming the court. Even in the Gillispie years when we beat a top 5 Tennessee team you didnt see us storming the court. And you must not read I said short amount of time. You’re really going to say Lamb and Young didn’t improve at kentucky? Stop. Just stop. And take down your banner for being #1 in Jeff Goodmans power rankings because you just lost to Fort Wayne.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/25/2016 - 5:54pm #1088774
SaltyCatsFanParticipantHad to come back for one more night. I’m just curious how can any of you argue the point of this thread that Bam and Monk are top 10 talents along with Fox and Gabriel could be a lottery pick by seasons end. For the record, I don’t get paid to scout NBA talent, I get paid to talk Kentucky basketball. And you guys don’t get paid to do anything. Now I’ll continue to respond to those of you for one more night who have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about
0- Posted on: Sat, 11/26/2016 - 9:23am #1088793

holefillers1ParticipantI think your new nick name will be Bath Salts. Cause your idea are cracked out and everything you say is BS.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/27/2016 - 4:07am #1088811
SaltyCatsFanParticipantHow do I get this through? Kentucky wins, makes a deep run in the tournament, and the players get drafted higher than they would have at other schools as a one and done. Making Calipari the best at getting players ready for the NBA in a SHORT ANOUNT OF TIME. Please read that part. You guys are pointing out the exceptions as your evidence as to why I’m wrong but I’ll take his success rate with one and done over any other coach. They’re not all supposed to pan out people. And you guys think when they do pan out, it has nothing to do with Cal. Somebody’s wrong here. Either my prospects are better than you think they are or Cal is a great coach. Watch them play UCLA on Saturday and watch how they handle Lonzo Ball, whom I still believe will get drafted higher than any of the Kentucky players, but just watch. And in case you didn’t watch, go back to the Michigan State game and see how they shut down Miles Bridges. What happens when they get to the NBA is beyond any of us and wasn’t ever the point of this thread. You guys changed the subject, not me. And your lack of college basketball knowledge is hindering you from the truth. Success and winning are factors when it comes to the draft. If my predictions about these guys being lottery picks aren’t true, then Cal is a great coach for getting these freshmen to play together and win. You guys are stupid idiots. I’m out.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/27/2016 - 10:10am #1088814

ChoppyParticipantI reckon
SaltyCatsFan = Hype Machine of Kentucky
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/27/2016 - 1:25pm #1088819
Big_C_KUParticipantI need to see the UK guys do it against better competition before I’m going to have a real good feel for how good they are and their pro prospects. MSU is the best team they’ve played so far and outside of Miles Bridges their talent level is fairly low and they are actually younger than UK.
Huge fan of Fox. Think he’s top 5-7 imo. Fills the stat sheet and has a huge impact everywhere on the court. Shot will improve. Don’t think he has the potential of Smith, Fultz, or Ball though.
Question on Monk is position. He looks great but does he have the handle or the passing ability to be a PG? His scoring has mostly come from the fast break and off 3s from the action of others. Haven’t seen much scoring from him off the dribble or hin halfcourt. He may come down to what he measures out at the combine. If he’s a legit 6-4 you may see him move in to the late lottery, possible bottom half of the top 10 if he continues to produce like he has to start the season. A comparison is a rich man’s Ben McLemore. Has better handle, shot, and similar athleticism to McLemore who went 7 in a terrible draft. As Monk is a better player but also in a much better and deeper draft could see him rising to around the same spot.
Adebayo needs to show more. He doesn’t have the offensive skills to throw it into the post and score at will. Most of his offense is going to come off of offensive rebounds and actions of others. He isn’t putting up dominate rebounding or shot blocking numbers to climb up the draft boards as a non-scoring option. Hopefully as his minutes increase and as we get into the season the rebounding and shot-blocking numbers increase.
Scouts already knew Briscoe was impossible to keep out of the lane and he was a great defender. What scouts needed to see was an improved jumper. He’s only 1/7 from 3 so far this year although the FT has definetely improved. If Briscoe is going to find himself in the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd round he’s going to have to show an improved 3pt shot.
Huge fan of Gabriel. Actually think he could end up being the 2nd UK player drafted behind Fox, maybe even ahead of Fox.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/28/2016 - 7:56am #1088841
brodiejayParticipantI find it hard to believe you have a degree in Journalism, Salty. You quite literally can’t string one coherent sentence together.
You haven’t used any facts, data, evidence, or even any logical reasoning to support whatever point it is you’re trying to argue. It’s impossible to have any kind of intelligent discussion with you when all you do is spout vapid clichés like you have some kind of illiterate regergitive Tourettes Syndrome. You’re like a fücking caricature buddy-
"May I remind you"
"But let’s get to the point"
"I’d bet my house"
"Sit down you’re making a fool out of yourself"
"If you don’t wanna finish a war, let’s not start it"
You say some inane, laughable shit buddy! I won’t bother weighing in on the content of your incoherent drivel, but I’m happy to offer a few (free) beginner tips to improve your writing if you are indeed hoping to get started in Journalism one day.
1. Journalists are required to acknowledge and suspend personal bias. Also, it seems you’re still not 100% on the actual meaning of the word ‘bias’. You used the phrasing "I really mean this in no biased opinion", which doesn’t make any sense.
2. Sentences should stay in the same tense for their entirety. Switching tenses in a paragraph makes your writing jumbled and disjointed. Switching tenses in a sentence is just awkwardly bad.
3. Don’t start sentences with the word ‘and’. This is one of the first things a real Journalist learns. Conjunctions are for connecting words, not sentences. Bad writers do it. Good writers don’t.
4. You should learn the fundamentals of sentences structure. The subject of your sentences should remain the subject until the end of each sentence.
5. Finally, the most important rule of all- Don’t try to belittle others by saying you’re a Journalist when you quite obviously can’t write for shit.
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