[McDunkin]

 The Aussies, as usual, are known for playing a physical game even without Bogut in support of lead guard Patty Mills, who is sure to see the ball a ton to make up for the limited role he has in San Antonio. Aussie big man David Andersen has a key role and ample motivation, with sources close to the former Rocket/Raptor/Hornet telling ESPN.com that Andersen hopes to play his way back into the NBA with his showing at this tournament.

http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8204959/2012-olympic-basketball-power-rankings

 

 

[terrancebowerParticipant]

 I remember him, he wasn’t a great player but he was better than some of the guys who are still kickin it around the league. I definitely think he’s good enough to be in the NBA but it would be as a third string player or a backup Center on a bad team. 

That being said, maybe he’s improved in his time overseas and will be good enough to play 20mpg, after all there aren’t a lot of good backup 7 footers.

[bobbybParticipant]

I am curious to see how  Mathew Dellavedova ( st mary’s)plays. He is a scrappy player and lets see if that translates into sucess

[TomShoeParticipant]

+ Charmin-soft jump-shooting big man who can post smaller players.

 

+ Likes midrange J and elbow turnaround. Slow but decent handle.

 

+ Awful defender. Moves poorly, lacks strength and doesn’t block shots. 

 

When even the Raptors think you don’t play enough defense, I’d say that’s a problem. A caricature of the soft European big man, Andersen is a good midrange shooter and has some ball skills, but was routinely eviscerated on defense. He’s a "4.5" — not nearly physical enough to play center, but far too slow to cover most 4s. 

 

Andersen played only 373 minutes, during which time he managed to take 107 jump shots but just 12 attempts at the rim. Yet in truth his offense wasn’t that bad; it’s his inability to defend that has him, most likely, headed back to Europe to play in an environment where his pick-and-pop game and laissez-faire defense are more appreciated.

 

TomShoe’s take: The European Spencer Hawes. lol. Only Spencer can defend. Being physical in the post is really more a mental thing than a physical thing, and he’s already 32, so unless he has a real change of heart, he’s going to be stuck in Europe because he can’t do the one thing that all C’s can even somewhat do. Defend. 

 

On the other hand, he rebounds better than Ryan Hollins, so there’s promise.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

I’m not one of those guys that just says Miami for every free agent, but a team like that might make sense if he’s maybe the 3rd center. He could come in when the matchup presents itself, so as more of a situational guy because his jump shot looks really smooth and fluid. He does not hesitate. His lack of D could be a problem, but he is able to open up the floor with his shooting. He doesn’t seem to be much of a rebounder, but you would think Haslem, Wade, Bosh, Lebron could pick up the load like they already do when Anthony is on the floor.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 I like that that mix has a lot of Ryan Anderson vs David Anderson moments. I confess, sometimes I get those two guys confused because the name and game are similar. 

David Anderson should figure out a way back in the NBA. 

[European BallerParticipant]

Andersen is super soft, but he is WAYYYYYY better than 3rd string NBA center level. You guys are freaking retards.

[iguapops420Participant]

 It’s as if you want everyone to hate you Euro. You have a good post and then 20 irrational ones. I like yah kid, but why always so negative towards everyones opinion. In the world of adulthood, we take criticism ith a grain of salt and either shrug it off or try and take it to heart and better ourselves. But we don’t get irrate and call each other childish names, especially when on the internet.

[European BallerParticipant]

Saying Andersen is the level of a 3rd string NBA center or worse is retarded. If you say something that is retarded, then you can expect to have it pointed out to you.

[JoeWolf1]

 In all fairness, European Baller, David Andersen split time with Jordan Hill as Yao Ming’s backup in Houston.  He split time with Ed Davis as Toronto’s backup center and again with Aaron Gray as New Orleans’ backup center.

This isn’t speculation.  Anderson did play in the NBA and he was a 3rd big off the bench.  Not necessarily a 3rd string center, but that was his role in the NBA.  I always liked his offensive skillset, but I have a hard time thinking, now at 32 years old, he is vastly better than the role he held in the NBA at 29 and 30 years old.

Anderson is certainly capable of playing in the NBA right now.  That being said, I think his role would be the same.  A backup center who is paired with a guy who is a PF/C combo, like a Jordan Hill or Ed Davis.  He can contribute to a team, but I don’t think he’s gotten better since the last time he was in the NBA.

[European BallerParticipant]

In all fairness, European Baller, David Andersen split time with Jordan Hill as Yao Ming’s backup in Houston. He split time with Ed Davis as Toronto’s backup center and again with Aaron Gray as New Orleans’ backup center.

This isn’t speculation. Anderson did play in the NBA and he was a 3rd big off the bench. Not necessarily a 3rd string center, but that was his role in the NBA. I always liked his offensive skillset, but I have a hard time thinking, now at 32 years old, he is vastly better than the role he held in the NBA at 29 and 30 years old.

Anderson is certainly capable of playing in the NBA right now. That being said, I think his role would be the same. A backup center who is paired with a guy who is a PF/C combo, like a Jordan Hill or Ed Davis. He can contribute to a team, but I don’t think he’s gotten better since the last time he was in the NBA.

 

In all fairness, you are retarded.

 

[JoeWolf1]

 In all fairness, everything I said is true and based off facts gathered from Andersen’s NBA experience.

[JoeWolf1]

 Also, when Houston brought him over, there was a lot of positive expectations for him.  They sought him out and expected him to be a big contributer.  There was no "Euro bias" or a situation in which he was set up for failure.  

They have been looking for a center to replace Yao since Yao started to have injury issues.  Andersen was expected to be a guy that could fill that void.  Instead he played like a backup center and as a result, got traded.

[European BallerParticipant]

You are just an idiot.

[JoeWolf1]

 You have no arguement. Usually when someone is beaten or has no other option, they bust out the insults.  Another example of the furious child, that is European Baller.  Half the time you look like a guy who can have a legit conversation, half the time, like a child who needs a time out.

[European BallerParticipant]

No. You are just a stupid freaking moron.

I have never liked Andersen as a player and he is super soft.

 

But anyone that claims they really analyzed his game and "objectively" he is a 3rd string NBA center…………anyone that says that is a drooling retard.

 

You are really stupid.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

If you disagree with something someone says (which, seems to be quite often) or feel it is ignorant or as you tend to put it "retarded", just saying that is not going to help. Why not explaining, maybe in small detail, what is wrong with their way of thinking? I mean, you have made lots of bold statements that could indeed be wrong. Where do you see David Andersen in the NBA? Why do you feel so strongly his being a third back-up is "retarded"?

You never seem to explain why and just tend to call people names. It really does not help anyone gain perspective or empathize with you. It seems you probably know more about David Andersen than anybody here, yet you use this to belittle people rather than educate them. That is not cool in the least and it makes you sink down to the level of the people you claim you despise. Just wanted to clarify, that is why you are viewed as a massive troll on this board and your opinions to get overlooked. If you want to solve "racism" by being beligerent on a message board, seems like a lost cause.

[JoeWolf1]

There is a difference between a 3rd string center and 3rd big man. If you don’t realize this then you should do a little research on NBA line ups and subsitution patterns. For instance, Nazr Mohammad was OKC’s 3rd big last year. He was their backup center, but Nick Collison (a PF/C combo) was often brought off the bench before him and played a larger role.

That is exactly what role Anderson played in the NBA and it is not, nor did I say it was the 3rd string center. There is a difference, and you don’t seem to notice. I know you don’t have any real opinion on what role Andersen would play and you will call me names. Please be a little more creative this time. Perhaps calling me ugly or eating something really gross?

[European BallerParticipant]

If you disagree with something someone says (which, seems to be quite often) or feel it is ignorant or as you tend to put it "retarded", just saying that is not going to help. Why not explaining, maybe in small detail, what is wrong with their way of thinking? I mean, you have made lots of bold statements that could indeed be wrong. Where do you see David Andersen in the NBA? Why do you feel so strongly his being a third back-up is "retarded"?

You never seem to explain why and just tend to call people names. It really does not help anyone gain perspective or empathize with you. It seems you probably know more about David Andersen than anybody here, yet you use this to belittle people rather than educate them. That is not cool in the least and it makes you sink down to the level of the people you claim you despise. Just wanted to clarify, that is why you are viewed as a massive troll on this board and your opinions to get overlooked. If you want to solve "racism" by being beligerent on a message board, seems like a lost cause.

 

Oh I see, so I am supposed to lower my level down to idiot speak and try to convince ignorant people that think they are always right that they are not.

 

Right. Whatever.

 

[JoeWolf1]

 I’m more patient than you. 

On a basketball team, a third string center is the man or woman who is the third best center on that basketball team.  I don’t think David Andersen would be the third string center on any NBA team.  I illustrated this in my previous posts, but apparently I must lower my level to idiot speak due to the fact you can’t seem to understand what I wrote.

A 3rd big man is a player that is more often than not, of a bit of a combination player.  That means he can play the center and power forward positions.  Since David Anderson is a less agressive player who loves to shoot jump shots.  He is often most valuable to an NBA team when he can be used situationally as a 3rd big.  That way during certain lineups a team can go with a tougher player, maybe one more athletic and aggressive or a good jump shooter who can stretch the floor.

David Andersen, in the NBA is a 3rd big man.  Most likely the backup center or in some instances power forward due to his soft style of play who is used situationally next to a more athletic, defensive oriented player who often comes off the bench before him.  Not a 3rd string center.  I hope you can understand what I meant when I said 3rd big.  

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

You seem to have the world figured out. Why waste your time on us when we are beyond comprehension? Oh, I see. You have next to no idea what you are talking about when it comes to anything outside of European basketball. Oh, that’s the ticket. All I know is, you NEVER admit to being wrong and are full of excuses. Must really suck to be you. Feel sorry for you, man. Hope you get your jollies off of this, just know you are the most arrogant and small person I know on this message board. No equal there.

[Bad DogParticipant]

If I may add my two cents into this discussion, I believe the reason why EB posts here so often is because he really has nothing better to do. Unemployment for young adults is at 50% in Greece so he literally has nothing better to do. As for angry persona, well that’s because he is Winston Bennett’s, or some other NBAer who had a brief stop in europe, illegitimate son.

[European BallerParticipant]

If I may add my two cents into this discussion, I believe the reason why EB posts here so often is because he really has nothing better to do. Unemployment for young adults is at 50% in Greece so he literally has nothing better to do. As for angry persona, well that’s because he is Winston Bennett’s, or some other NBAer who had a brief stop in europe, illegitimate son.

 

1/2 people in the USA are unemployed.

1/3 working age people in the USA are unemployed.

1/2 working age people between the age of 25-34 in the USA are unemployed.

These are the ACTUAL statistics, and not the fake ones that morons like you trust as gospel coming from your fake "media" propaganda.

 

I guess the ONLY reason you are here is because you have never had a job.

[JoeWolf1]

No, your numbers are just irrelevant. Around 30% of the U.S. population is retired and 7 % is under the age of 16.

Technically you’re right with half of the U.S. being unemployed, but a large portion of that group is made up of chilrden and those who worked their entire life and chose to retire.  Our "un-employment" rate is around 8.5% which only includes those who are actively looking for jobs.  There are others who do not work that are not counted in those numbers.  

Half of the U.S. is unemployed, but I don’t see how not counting children and retired when tracking job growth and the economy is propaganda.  

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

No point. As soon as he submitted to no longer even attempting to explain where he was coming from, it was a completely lost cause. I know his bull$hit statistics (from nowhere with no evidence or reference) are mildly insulting/ridiculous, but I think this guy has run his course. Any time he shows potential of being human, he just flips back to being the bitter excuse of an internet troll that has made him absolutely unbearable. I would like to take a stand to just ignore him completely.

[JoeWolf1]

 I’m game.  He doesn’t even make me mad ,anymore. I just like to mess with him when he says stupid in-accurate stuff because he just gets mad and throws a fit.  You make a good point, I’m done.

[bobbybParticipant]

actuall unemployment is somewhere in the middle at around 15 percent. The government acknowledges it but media doesnt put it out there

[ENOGSIWONdede]

 jobs are for suckers anyway who cares

[TomShoeParticipant]

We just turned a discussion about jump-shooting big men into an arguement about American unemployment.

Only at nbadraft.net.

[European BallerParticipant]

No, your numbers are just irrelevant. Around 30% of the U.S. population is retired and 7 % is under the age of 16.

Technically you’re right with half of the U.S. being unemployed, but a large portion of that group is made up of chilrden and those who worked their entire life and chose to retire. Our "un-employment" rate is around 8.5% which only includes those who are actively looking for jobs. There are others who do not work that are not counted in those numbers.

Half of the U.S. is unemployed, but I don’t see how not counting children and retired when tracking job growth and the economy is propaganda.

 

In Greece the unemployment figure is simply who does not have a job. So you can’t say Greece has 50% unemployment for young people then. Because using your way, the way USA counts it, it’s only 16% in Greece.

 

You cannot just make up whatever numbers you feel like and pass it off as fact. That was what that moron was doing when he brought up the 50% unemployment for young people in Greece. Since, it’s the same exact number in the USA, if you use the same paramater Greece uses to count the number.

[JoeWolf1]

The US uses a system to calculate enemployment that takes the population above the age of 16 who are actively seeking jobs. Retired Americans, a large portion of our population due to a population boom in the 1940’s-60’s ( Baby Boomers ) around 30% is not a made up number, and they are not counted because they are not looking for jobs. The 2010 Census found that 6.8 % of our population was under the age of 16. I did round up to 7, again, not a made up number. I’m not trying to put America’s economy up against Greece’s as a competition, just pointing out things you don’t seem to know.

http://www.bls.gov/

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

I don’t pretend to know about Greece’s economy. I never commented on it, but I know quite a bit about the U.S. economy. Calling someone out often scares away those who don’t know what they’re talking about, but those who do usually aren’t afraid to share their knowledge. I’ve worked as a business manager in the U.S. for 7 years before recently changing careers and if you think average Americans gain their knowledge through government propaganda, then you are simly mistaken. To my knowledge, you’ve never been to America, how much of an expert can you really be? You don’t like the U.S. or Americans, this is a constant theme in your posts, but most Americans have little or no opinion on Greece, other than studying the ancient Greeks in school, maybe wanting to visit there someday and John Stamos. That’s not an insult, just stating that the U.S. doesn’t hate Greece back. Americans, as a whole, are uninformed as what goes on in the rest of the world, but that also means no strong opinions about Greece. You’ve never been here, but seriously, racism against Greeks is not a real thing here. Badgering a few people on the internet to the point where they insult you back isn’t representative of a non-provoked view on a foreign country.

I have friends who are not from America and moved here for college and career reasons, and I know many people view us as George Bush, Pepsi, McDonalds, fat arrogant imperialists before they come here. That’s often not the sentiment after being here a couple months. We don’t view ourselves as a perfect country, our policial system is so at odds with each other, we have a difficult time passing simple laws that both parties agree with. I know nothing I say will change your opinion, I feel you’re probably very young and angry, you’ll probably continue to call me names, but you just have a very skewed view on how American’s think and how we operate as a country. That’s no different than others commenting on Greece without ever traveling or living there. I’m not going to respond to you anymore, but I wanted to leave you with this parting message. I know you’ll probably call me an idiot, but again, if you choose to insult me, please try to be more creative.

[Bad DogParticipant]

I apologise. I was giving the wrong info on the Greek unemployment numbers. It isn’t 50%. It’s actually 52.8 for age group 15-24. At least that’s the most recent numbers. Now I’ll just leave it at that. Below is a link that backs up this number. It’s your choice to believe it or not. Frankly, I don’t really care. I just thought I’d back up what I wrote with proof. A little bit of advice for our Greek adversary: Denial is for the weak. The truth will set you free. Be free Euroballer, be free lol.

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/table.do?tab=table&plugin=1&language=en&pcode=teilm021

It’s not all bad, you did win the Trojan war after all.

[European BallerParticipant]

I told you IDIOT, Greece counts all people that do not have a job as unemployed. The USA only counts those on benefits. The number in Greece on benefits is 16%. In USA it is 15%.

 

YOU ARE A STUPID IGNORANT BASTARD.

[TomShoeParticipant]

 

If you’re going to rage like that, do it in the off-topic section. This topic is about David Andersen.

I know the Euro-zone crisis is awful, but this is not the place, and not the time.

[European BallerParticipant]

Andersen signed with Fenerbache for $3 million a season.

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