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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:01am #60388
treytalkssports.comParticipantGolden State receieves: Lamarcus Aldridge
Portland receives: Speights, Lee, Barnes, 30th pick
Golden State reloads with Aldridge, which gives them a legit post up option to diversify their offense. Golden State would need to resign Green, which would put them severely in the luxury tax next season. The year after that, they would be closer to the tax line. They would need to play Rush a bit more (yikes) and look for veterans who might play for the minimum, but they would still have depth, versatility, and athleticism.
Portland would only trade Aldridge if they know he is leaving. In this trade, they get a stop-gap power foward to keep their offense flowing. Barnes is a nice player on the wing and can play some small ball-four (unlike Batum). Speights give them another solid big man. This blow up move aligns expiring contracts accross their roster next season too. Suddenly, they have a ton of space to resign Barnes and Lillard and go after another free agent.
Portland might want more, or might not be too interested in Lee and Barnes. In that case, the Warriors could flip Lee and Barnes to another team (Celtics, Sixers, Knicks) for a draft pick and/or a different young player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:13am #990850

HobbyOGParticipantShould be labeled "horrible trade idea" instead of crazy trade idea..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:13am #990708

HobbyOGParticipantShould be labeled "horrible trade idea" instead of crazy trade idea..
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:48am #990746

Willfb3ParticipantIt’s creative. No need to bash someone for playing around with an idea. If you’re a Balzers fan I think Barnes and Lee plus a first round pick > nothing… every day of the week. He said IF LMA is leaving afterall… Don’t be a hater and provide no feedback.
0- Posted on: Thu, 06/18/2015 - 11:46am #991355

HobbyOGParticipantFirst off, I’m not a hater..it’s no reason to hate on a crazy idea like that. (Learn what the word "hater" means before you use it) But WHY would they trade a players when they just won the championship and have a good chemistry???
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/18/2015 - 11:46am #991213

HobbyOGParticipantFirst off, I’m not a hater..it’s no reason to hate on a crazy idea like that. (Learn what the word "hater" means before you use it) But WHY would they trade a players when they just won the championship and have a good chemistry???
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:48am #990888

Willfb3ParticipantIt’s creative. No need to bash someone for playing around with an idea. If you’re a Balzers fan I think Barnes and Lee plus a first round pick > nothing… every day of the week. He said IF LMA is leaving afterall… Don’t be a hater and provide no feedback.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 12:13pm #990776
joe2324ParticipantThis would never fly.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 12:13pm #990919
joe2324ParticipantThis would never fly.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:29am #990858

sheltwon3ParticipantI think Bogut should get traded as well. Ezili is a better defender and is younger and more athletic.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:29am #990716

sheltwon3ParticipantI think Bogut should get traded as well. Ezili is a better defender and is younger and more athletic.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:41am #990860

Reptilian MonkParticipantIf it’s not broke, dont fix it. They just won championship they have a young team no need to mess with roster/chemistry.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:41am #990718

Reptilian MonkParticipantIf it’s not broke, dont fix it. They just won championship they have a young team no need to mess with roster/chemistry.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:42am #990720
Memphis MadnessParticipantStart LMA at the 5? That would be the only way it works.
I might keep Barnes, Speights, the 30th pick, and just save the money.
I don’t think they are missing anything…
What I might try to do is trade the 30th pick to the 76ers for 35 and 37 then take Dakari Johnson at 35 then Best Player Available at 47 — I am thinking either JP Tokoto for wing athleticism and defense or Pat Connaughton who is more of a shooter.
I like Harrison Barnes. He is a great complement to Draymond Green at the forward spot, he can hit 3’s, and finish strong with dunks. Ideal 4th option.
I agree that the Warriors can use some inside scoring, but what about going after a guy who can do that off the bench at a much cheaper price? Big Mo can also score inside a bit and hit some jumpers.
I think a fair trade for both sides would be LaMarcus Aldridge to the Warriors for David Lee, Shaun Livingston, Festus Ezeli, James McAdoo, the 30th pick, and a future 2nd round pick. I would even think that the Blazers win the trade.
Then I would use LMA as a bench guy along with Iggy and Barbosa (or whatever veteran guard they bring in to replace him).
If you look closely Aldridge feasts on mid-range jumpers and uncontested rebounds. He might not be up there with The King of Empty Stats aka David Lee but he is close…
If I am Golden State I keep my five man core of Steph, Klay, Draymond, Barnes, and Iggy plus I really want to hold on to Shaun Livingston. Ezeli is a cheap backup and looks like a keeper. Bogut or a similar replacement is the next best keeper on my list. This is also a pretty good draft to pick up solid role players fairly late in the draft.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:42am #990862
Memphis MadnessParticipantStart LMA at the 5? That would be the only way it works.
I might keep Barnes, Speights, the 30th pick, and just save the money.
I don’t think they are missing anything…
What I might try to do is trade the 30th pick to the 76ers for 35 and 37 then take Dakari Johnson at 35 then Best Player Available at 47 — I am thinking either JP Tokoto for wing athleticism and defense or Pat Connaughton who is more of a shooter.
I like Harrison Barnes. He is a great complement to Draymond Green at the forward spot, he can hit 3’s, and finish strong with dunks. Ideal 4th option.
I agree that the Warriors can use some inside scoring, but what about going after a guy who can do that off the bench at a much cheaper price? Big Mo can also score inside a bit and hit some jumpers.
I think a fair trade for both sides would be LaMarcus Aldridge to the Warriors for David Lee, Shaun Livingston, Festus Ezeli, James McAdoo, the 30th pick, and a future 2nd round pick. I would even think that the Blazers win the trade.
Then I would use LMA as a bench guy along with Iggy and Barbosa (or whatever veteran guard they bring in to replace him).
If you look closely Aldridge feasts on mid-range jumpers and uncontested rebounds. He might not be up there with The King of Empty Stats aka David Lee but he is close…
If I am Golden State I keep my five man core of Steph, Klay, Draymond, Barnes, and Iggy plus I really want to hold on to Shaun Livingston. Ezeli is a cheap backup and looks like a keeper. Bogut or a similar replacement is the next best keeper on my list. This is also a pretty good draft to pick up solid role players fairly late in the draft.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:59am #990724
Memphis MadnessParticipantIf the Warriors want to upgrade at center AND keep Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy, as a Grizzlies fan I would do this trade:
Warriors get Marc Gasol and Jeff Green
Grizzlies get Andrew Bogut, David Lee, Harrison Barnes, and Shaun Livingston
The Warriors add an all-star center to their core. They make Jeff Green their starting small forward (although Barnes is a better long range shooter and doesn’t need the ball to be effective). Jeff can also play some small ball 4. Big Marc gives the Warriors what Bogut was good at, defense, size, experience, rebounding, and passing while being a better scorer and shooter.
The Grizz get a guy to help Z Bo out on the boards. A guy who did what Marc did but without the range. On the plus side, we get a really, really solid Harrison Barnes to play small forward. An upgrade in the shooting department over Jeff Green. Also a better fit for the offense. David Lee gives us a better backup power forward and a guy who can flat out rebound and score the ball. Livingston would give us an ideal backup point guard. A pass-first guy with size.
Grizzlies new starting lineup:
PG Mike Conley
SG Courtney Lee
SF Harrison Barnes
PF Zach Randolph
C Andrew Bogut
Bench
PG Shaun Livingston
SG Beno Udrih/Jordan Adams
SF Tony Allen
PF David Lee
C Kosta Koufos
Reserves
Russ Smith
Vince Carter
Jarnell Stokes
25th pick
Grizz get one of the best bench units in the league. Rebounders and inside scorers, TA defending the wing as well as Livingston, Beno, and Russ Smith bringing different looks at guard. The Grizzlies might want to get greedy and also ask for the 30th pick to go after a 2 way hybrid forward. Why not copy the best (Warriors)?
The Warriors lose some depth but upgrade their center spot and get one of the best centers in the league, and perhaps the best TWO WAY center in the NBA.
Starters
PG Steph Curry
SG Klay Thompson
SF Jeff Green
PF Draymond Green
C Marc Gasol
Bench
PG Leandro Barbosa
SG 25th pick
SF Andre Iguodala
PF Mo Speights
C Festus Ezeli
Reserves
Brandon Rush
James McAdoo
The Warriors should go after a backup 2 or small forward depth in the draft. The bench looks weaker, but they still have Iggy. Barbosa and Big Mo can score. Ezeli is a solid backup center and joins Will Perdue in the Backup Championship Centers from Vandy Club. If Jeff Green finds his shot consistently, the Warriors first team is flat out loaded and borderline unstoppable. Bonus points if Marc extends his range to the 3 point line. … if the Warriors do this trade then they should look at Matt Barnes as their backup small forward. He is a 3 point shooter who can also defend. He also brings another guy with an edge and intensity.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 9:59am #990866
Memphis MadnessParticipantIf the Warriors want to upgrade at center AND keep Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy, as a Grizzlies fan I would do this trade:
Warriors get Marc Gasol and Jeff Green
Grizzlies get Andrew Bogut, David Lee, Harrison Barnes, and Shaun Livingston
The Warriors add an all-star center to their core. They make Jeff Green their starting small forward (although Barnes is a better long range shooter and doesn’t need the ball to be effective). Jeff can also play some small ball 4. Big Marc gives the Warriors what Bogut was good at, defense, size, experience, rebounding, and passing while being a better scorer and shooter.
The Grizz get a guy to help Z Bo out on the boards. A guy who did what Marc did but without the range. On the plus side, we get a really, really solid Harrison Barnes to play small forward. An upgrade in the shooting department over Jeff Green. Also a better fit for the offense. David Lee gives us a better backup power forward and a guy who can flat out rebound and score the ball. Livingston would give us an ideal backup point guard. A pass-first guy with size.
Grizzlies new starting lineup:
PG Mike Conley
SG Courtney Lee
SF Harrison Barnes
PF Zach Randolph
C Andrew Bogut
Bench
PG Shaun Livingston
SG Beno Udrih/Jordan Adams
SF Tony Allen
PF David Lee
C Kosta Koufos
Reserves
Russ Smith
Vince Carter
Jarnell Stokes
25th pick
Grizz get one of the best bench units in the league. Rebounders and inside scorers, TA defending the wing as well as Livingston, Beno, and Russ Smith bringing different looks at guard. The Grizzlies might want to get greedy and also ask for the 30th pick to go after a 2 way hybrid forward. Why not copy the best (Warriors)?
The Warriors lose some depth but upgrade their center spot and get one of the best centers in the league, and perhaps the best TWO WAY center in the NBA.
Starters
PG Steph Curry
SG Klay Thompson
SF Jeff Green
PF Draymond Green
C Marc Gasol
Bench
PG Leandro Barbosa
SG 25th pick
SF Andre Iguodala
PF Mo Speights
C Festus Ezeli
Reserves
Brandon Rush
James McAdoo
The Warriors should go after a backup 2 or small forward depth in the draft. The bench looks weaker, but they still have Iggy. Barbosa and Big Mo can score. Ezeli is a solid backup center and joins Will Perdue in the Backup Championship Centers from Vandy Club. If Jeff Green finds his shot consistently, the Warriors first team is flat out loaded and borderline unstoppable. Bonus points if Marc extends his range to the 3 point line. … if the Warriors do this trade then they should look at Matt Barnes as their backup small forward. He is a 3 point shooter who can also defend. He also brings another guy with an edge and intensity.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:02am #990726
Memphis MadnessParticipantThe biggest threat to a Golden State Warriors 3 peat is the ESPN Trade Machine.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:52am #990748

Willfb3ParticipantThat or the second best player world stepping back on the court to join Mr. tripple double himself, Russell Westbrook..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:52am #990890

Willfb3ParticipantThat or the second best player world stepping back on the court to join Mr. tripple double himself, Russell Westbrook..
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 10:02am #990868
Memphis MadnessParticipantThe biggest threat to a Golden State Warriors 3 peat is the ESPN Trade Machine.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:32am #990764
Memphis MadnessParticipant^^^
That would be a GREAT series.
After watching the Finals, I think a couple dozen NBA teams decided to just blow things up.
If Iggy can guard LeBron he can guard Kevin Durant.
It’s always been the secondary guys for the Thunder who haven’t stepped up.
Steph vs. Russ should be NUTS.
I think I like the Warriors other role players better than the Thunders’. Barnes and Draymond. Bogut, David Lee, and Mo Speights inside, with Shaun Livingston as a backup point guard.
I just think the non-core guys fit better for the Warriors.
So, the Cavs get back to the Finals and LOSE AGAIN?
Could happen…
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 2:34pm #990818
fliptonnParticipantCan he though? cause lebron almost averaged 40 and a triple double. Durant is even more dynamic on offense. Thunder will be a serious force next year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 2:34pm #990961
fliptonnParticipantCan he though? cause lebron almost averaged 40 and a triple double. Durant is even more dynamic on offense. Thunder will be a serious force next year.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 11:32am #990906
Memphis MadnessParticipant^^^
That would be a GREAT series.
After watching the Finals, I think a couple dozen NBA teams decided to just blow things up.
If Iggy can guard LeBron he can guard Kevin Durant.
It’s always been the secondary guys for the Thunder who haven’t stepped up.
Steph vs. Russ should be NUTS.
I think I like the Warriors other role players better than the Thunders’. Barnes and Draymond. Bogut, David Lee, and Mo Speights inside, with Shaun Livingston as a backup point guard.
I just think the non-core guys fit better for the Warriors.
So, the Cavs get back to the Finals and LOSE AGAIN?
Could happen…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 2:19pm #990814

HitsterParticipantThe Warriors will look at their roster, it’s rumoured that they will try to move David Lee on if they get a taker – expiring deals are always of use. Give Sam Hinkie a ring in about December if nothing is happening on that front.
I could see GSW possibly selling 30th pick, using the money to get a couple of guys in on veteran’s minimum also.
The warriors main moves this summer will be to match any offers for Draymond Green and get Harrison Barnes signed up long term,
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/17/2015 - 2:19pm #990957

HitsterParticipantThe Warriors will look at their roster, it’s rumoured that they will try to move David Lee on if they get a taker – expiring deals are always of use. Give Sam Hinkie a ring in about December if nothing is happening on that front.
I could see GSW possibly selling 30th pick, using the money to get a couple of guys in on veteran’s minimum also.
The warriors main moves this summer will be to match any offers for Draymond Green and get Harrison Barnes signed up long term,
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:02am #991819

HitsterParticipantThere is talk that the Warriors are offering up 30th pick for any takers for David Lee. It would all depend on whether any team would think they could get value out of David Lee for a year or if a team like say Philly who may be well under cap would take him to get the pick. Offer him a buy out and then let him move on.
The Warriors could of course offer David Lee a buy out to try and create some cap space and if it would save a luxury tax hit then it might be an option. David is due just under $15.5 million and a lot would depend what a team would offer him if he was waived. If GSW offered him a buy out of between $10 and $12 million then he’d be a very attractive FA veteran for a team at between $3 and $5 million. That way GSW save luxury tax money and David doesn’t lose out financially.
Of course GSW would love to flip David for 30th pick but another team may want a bit more if they would be taking a salary hit and possibly waiving David.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:02am #991960

HitsterParticipantThere is talk that the Warriors are offering up 30th pick for any takers for David Lee. It would all depend on whether any team would think they could get value out of David Lee for a year or if a team like say Philly who may be well under cap would take him to get the pick. Offer him a buy out and then let him move on.
The Warriors could of course offer David Lee a buy out to try and create some cap space and if it would save a luxury tax hit then it might be an option. David is due just under $15.5 million and a lot would depend what a team would offer him if he was waived. If GSW offered him a buy out of between $10 and $12 million then he’d be a very attractive FA veteran for a team at between $3 and $5 million. That way GSW save luxury tax money and David doesn’t lose out financially.
Of course GSW would love to flip David for 30th pick but another team may want a bit more if they would be taking a salary hit and possibly waiving David.
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