[ZarathustraParticipant]

 McDermott and Mirotic just signed their contracts,so 30 days to finalize anything.That would be a suprise with Gasol already on the roster.Can you see that trade happen?What’s the best offer for the Wolves?Cavs or Bulls?

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If the Bulls can keep Butler this would be a great move for them. Gasol would get pushed to the bench but with Gibson and Mirotic gone he would still get plenty of playing time at PF and C and would probably be an early front runner for 6th man of the year.

[juves4783Participant]

no way gasol is happy coming off the bench.  

 

 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

if starting was his priority, he would have resigned with the lakers or signed with New York. I believe he will take the role that would give them the best chance to win. 

[benny15Participant]

if starting was his priority, he would have resigned with the lakers or signed with New York. I believe he will take the role that would give them the best chance to win. 

[juves4783Participant]

no way gasol is happy coming off the bench.  

 

 

 

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If the Bulls can keep Butler this would be a great move for them. Gasol would get pushed to the bench but with Gibson and Mirotic gone he would still get plenty of playing time at PF and C and would probably be an early front runner for 6th man of the year.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

The offers from the Warriors & Cavs are much better..In those deals they get star players in return…

 

[ZarathustraParticipant]

 I didn’t mention the Warriors because i just don’t see them splitting "the splash brothers" nor the Celtics having enough interesting pieces for the Wolves.

[ZarathustraParticipant]

 I didn’t mention the Warriors because i just don’t see them splitting "the splash brothers" nor the Celtics having enough interesting pieces for the Wolves.

[aztwulfParticipant]

From what I have seen, the GS offer is Lee, Barnes, and probably a pick. Lee is a nice player, but on a bad contract. Barnes hasn’t shown much. To my knowledge, Klay has not been included, and he is due to get overpaid in 2015.

I prefer a Cleveland package centered around Wiggins, and probably including Bennett and a first (or two) to the GS offer. Chicago’s offer is pretty tempting as Taj would be a nice defensive fit next to Pek, while Mirotec and Dougie McBuckets offer some upside.

[aztwulfParticipant]

From what I have seen, the GS offer is Lee, Barnes, and probably a pick. Lee is a nice player, but on a bad contract. Barnes hasn’t shown much. To my knowledge, Klay has not been included, and he is due to get overpaid in 2015.

I prefer a Cleveland package centered around Wiggins, and probably including Bennett and a first (or two) to the GS offer. Chicago’s offer is pretty tempting as Taj would be a nice defensive fit next to Pek, while Mirotec and Dougie McBuckets offer some upside.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

The offers from the Warriors & Cavs are much better..In those deals they get star players in return…

 

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

Too much. Id give. Minny a choice between mirotic and mcdermott, on top of taj, jimmy and a 1st

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

Too much. Id give. Minny a choice between mirotic and mcdermott, on top of taj, jimmy and a 1st

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

I’ve said several times, the GSW deal is garbage. Klay Thompson is good, but he’s not a star (playing alongside Curry, Iggy, and Bogut hides the gaping holes in his game) and he’s going to get paid like one. Barnes has not lived up to his hype and is basically Marvin Williams 2.0, and David Lee is not nearly as good as Kevin Love and paid a horrible contract. I would hang up the phone if the deal doesn’t involve Klay, Green, and/or Iggy (rather than Lee). 

I actually kinda like this deal w/Chicago. Mrotic is the third best player (right now, anyways) that’s been offered in any deal for Love (and I’d be willing to bet he ends up better than Klay in the long run) Gibson has quietly been one of the best defensive players in the NBA and is being paid an under-value contract, and Dougie has potential to be a killer sniper (and Gibson would be able to cover for his lack of any D whatsoever). I’d prefer if the Bulls included Butler and took back Martin and Brewer/Bud as well, but that’d prolly be too much to ask. I think Chicago ranks as the third best potential deal, second best realistic deal. 

I liked Boston’s potential deal as the second best, but that appears to be off the table. 

I still like the Cleveland deal best. Like I’ve said before, Wiggins is the only (potential) superstar that has been formally offered in any deal, and even though we’d have to take on Bennett, it would allow us to rid ourselves of Martin’s horrible contract, and possibly Barea as well. And we could just not pick up Bennett’s option if he sucks. Plus, the Miami pick could be very nice as Wade and Bosh age, and the Memphis pick could be valuable if it falls outside of the random protections. Cleveland’s picks are basically filler because they’ll prolly be like 26th-30th. 

 

 

[aztwulfParticipant]

From what I have seen, the proposed deal is something like Love for Wiggins, Bennett, and a first (or firsts). There has been some talk of Cleveland trading the three newly acquired non-guaranteed contracts for JJ Barea, and his 4M one year deal.

I don’t think that Martin is in the Love to Cleveland proposed trade. Cleveland is having a hard time coming up with 15 million in salaries to send back to Minnesota in exchange for Love the way it is. If you add KMart into the deal, now you have Minnesota sending 22 million out, which pretty well means that Cleveland would have to include Andy Varejao in the deal to match salaries. You would have to ask someone from Cleveland, but I think LeBron and Andy are good buds, and that LeBron wants to play with Andy.

Kind of odd how Boston just seems to have disappeared. Early on it was all Boston, and now not a peep out of them. I don’t know if Love indicated that he was not interested in extending with Boston, of it Ainge was only interested in Love if he could get him for 50 cents on the dollar.

[kerrstParticipant]

 Kmart can be included if the proposed deal was K-Love and Kmart for Wiggins, Thompson, Waiters and any combination of Haywood, Malcolm Thomas, John Lucas and Erik Murphy.  All 7 of those players will make 20 million + combined.  The combined salaries of  Love and Martin equal 22 million +.  So the Cavs taking back Love and Martin is possible.

[kerrstParticipant]

 Kmart can be included if the proposed deal was K-Love and Kmart for Wiggins, Thompson, Waiters and any combination of Haywood, Malcolm Thomas, John Lucas and Erik Murphy.  All 7 of those players will make 20 million + combined.  The combined salaries of  Love and Martin equal 22 million +.  So the Cavs taking back Love and Martin is possible.

[aztwulfParticipant]

From what I have seen, the proposed deal is something like Love for Wiggins, Bennett, and a first (or firsts). There has been some talk of Cleveland trading the three newly acquired non-guaranteed contracts for JJ Barea, and his 4M one year deal.

I don’t think that Martin is in the Love to Cleveland proposed trade. Cleveland is having a hard time coming up with 15 million in salaries to send back to Minnesota in exchange for Love the way it is. If you add KMart into the deal, now you have Minnesota sending 22 million out, which pretty well means that Cleveland would have to include Andy Varejao in the deal to match salaries. You would have to ask someone from Cleveland, but I think LeBron and Andy are good buds, and that LeBron wants to play with Andy.

Kind of odd how Boston just seems to have disappeared. Early on it was all Boston, and now not a peep out of them. I don’t know if Love indicated that he was not interested in extending with Boston, of it Ainge was only interested in Love if he could get him for 50 cents on the dollar.

[celtics1982Participant]

How is Mrotic the third best player offered in any deal?  His age 23 season in the Euro league, 12.4 points, 4.6 rebounds.  Jared Sullinger in just 27 minutes a night at age 22 in the NBA averaged 13.3 points and 8.1 rebounds.  I know Mrotic can shoot from 3 point range (46.1%), but I don’t see what all the hype is all about.  Last three years Mrotic has averaged 12.5, 11.4 and 12.4 points per game.  I just don’t see anything that says he’s going to be better then in Klay in the long term, not even close.  He seems like a nice stretch power forward, nothing more.  A good rotation player, but not a starter in this league.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Mirotic was 5th best player on Real Madrid if that helps.

Real Madrid would probably have been the 2nd best team in the Eastern conference. So that would give an idea.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Mirotic was 5th best player on Real Madrid if that helps.

Real Madrid would probably have been the 2nd best team in the Eastern conference. So that would give an idea.

[barbabodomParticipant]

You know that is kind of silly compare Euroleague and NBA numbers, don´t you? Not saying that Mirotic is better than Sullinger or ever will be, but this is no the way to compare them.

[barbabodomParticipant]

You know that is kind of silly compare Euroleague and NBA numbers, don´t you? Not saying that Mirotic is better than Sullinger or ever will be, but this is no the way to compare them.

[celtics1982Participant]

How is Mrotic the third best player offered in any deal?  His age 23 season in the Euro league, 12.4 points, 4.6 rebounds.  Jared Sullinger in just 27 minutes a night at age 22 in the NBA averaged 13.3 points and 8.1 rebounds.  I know Mrotic can shoot from 3 point range (46.1%), but I don’t see what all the hype is all about.  Last three years Mrotic has averaged 12.5, 11.4 and 12.4 points per game.  I just don’t see anything that says he’s going to be better then in Klay in the long term, not even close.  He seems like a nice stretch power forward, nothing more.  A good rotation player, but not a starter in this league.

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

I’ve said several times, the GSW deal is garbage. Klay Thompson is good, but he’s not a star (playing alongside Curry, Iggy, and Bogut hides the gaping holes in his game) and he’s going to get paid like one. Barnes has not lived up to his hype and is basically Marvin Williams 2.0, and David Lee is not nearly as good as Kevin Love and paid a horrible contract. I would hang up the phone if the deal doesn’t involve Klay, Green, and/or Iggy (rather than Lee). 

I actually kinda like this deal w/Chicago. Mrotic is the third best player (right now, anyways) that’s been offered in any deal for Love (and I’d be willing to bet he ends up better than Klay in the long run) Gibson has quietly been one of the best defensive players in the NBA and is being paid an under-value contract, and Dougie has potential to be a killer sniper (and Gibson would be able to cover for his lack of any D whatsoever). I’d prefer if the Bulls included Butler and took back Martin and Brewer/Bud as well, but that’d prolly be too much to ask. I think Chicago ranks as the third best potential deal, second best realistic deal. 

I liked Boston’s potential deal as the second best, but that appears to be off the table. 

I still like the Cleveland deal best. Like I’ve said before, Wiggins is the only (potential) superstar that has been formally offered in any deal, and even though we’d have to take on Bennett, it would allow us to rid ourselves of Martin’s horrible contract, and possibly Barea as well. And we could just not pick up Bennett’s option if he sucks. Plus, the Miami pick could be very nice as Wade and Bosh age, and the Memphis pick could be valuable if it falls outside of the random protections. Cleveland’s picks are basically filler because they’ll prolly be like 26th-30th. 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What does Kevin Love give you that a forward rotation of Doug McDermott and Pau/Gibson can’t?

D Rose is a high volume scorer, Doug can shoot, Butler is solid, Noah can get garbage buckets in bunches, and Pau can score in the low post.  Not saying they have a TON of options but they do have enough, and have a more balanced teams than some other Coach Thibs outfits. 

Right now, I think they match up very well with the Cavs, Spurs, and Thunder.  They can either go all-defense inside with Noah and Taj OR go with offense AND defense (and size) with Noah and Pau.  They can go big on the wings with McDermott at the 3 and Butler at the 2 or smaller with Kirk at the 2 and Butler at the 3. 

Then if I am Chicago I hope the Cavs trade Wiggins, Bennett, and other assets for Kevin Love.  Then LeBron won’t be able to guard Chicago’s wings by himself, AND help out on D Rose (which was highly effective for the Heat).  Then, Kevin Love can’t guard Pau inside while Taj Gibson should be able to guard Kevin Love.  To me, it looks like Chicago has the weapons to throw at LeBron and Love (Butler, Snell, Gibson, and Noah).  Then I think I trust Rose (and Hinrich) enough to slow down Kyrie Irving.  BUT, I am not sure that Irving is athletic enough to guard Rose if D Rose gets back to full strength. 

The Cavs also couldn’t use their best K Love offense of Irving, Waiters, Mike Miller, LeBron, and Love since it would get slaughtered on defense.  They couldn’t use LeBron at his best position (the 4) and basically could never let Mike Miller see the court. 

The best thing for the Cavs to do is just trade for Gorgui Dieng.  I would give T Wolves Tristan Thompson, Brendan Haywood, Joe Harris, the Heat pick, and a future Cavs first rounder for Dieng and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute.  I trust LeBron and Bennett to hold down the four, Mbah a Moute would also give them a defender to plug in at power forward, and Dieng would give them the young shot blocker they need inside as Andy V’s backup.  The Cavs could also go super big with LeBron at the 3, Wiggins at the 2, Andy V at the 4, and Dieng at center. 

[aztwulfParticipant]

I just go right to “NEG”.

[aztwulfParticipant]

I just go right to “NEG”.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

But Love would stretch the defense out and allow Rose room where it otherwise wouldn’t be with only Butler and Dunleavy as premiere 3 or threats. If the Wolves accept the deal and the Bulls keep Butler, they will have 3 3pt threats and space for Noah to pass out an Rose to drive. You also can’t find a better defensive rebounder in the league than Love. This would allow Noah to save energy for offensive boards. Also, the Bulls could start Pau in case either Love or Noah get hurt, which is likely.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

But Love would stretch the defense out and allow Rose room where it otherwise wouldn’t be with only Butler and Dunleavy as premiere 3 or threats. If the Wolves accept the deal and the Bulls keep Butler, they will have 3 3pt threats and space for Noah to pass out an Rose to drive. You also can’t find a better defensive rebounder in the league than Love. This would allow Noah to save energy for offensive boards. Also, the Bulls could start Pau in case either Love or Noah get hurt, which is likely.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What does Kevin Love give you that a forward rotation of Doug McDermott and Pau/Gibson can’t?

D Rose is a high volume scorer, Doug can shoot, Butler is solid, Noah can get garbage buckets in bunches, and Pau can score in the low post.  Not saying they have a TON of options but they do have enough, and have a more balanced teams than some other Coach Thibs outfits. 

Right now, I think they match up very well with the Cavs, Spurs, and Thunder.  They can either go all-defense inside with Noah and Taj OR go with offense AND defense (and size) with Noah and Pau.  They can go big on the wings with McDermott at the 3 and Butler at the 2 or smaller with Kirk at the 2 and Butler at the 3. 

Then if I am Chicago I hope the Cavs trade Wiggins, Bennett, and other assets for Kevin Love.  Then LeBron won’t be able to guard Chicago’s wings by himself, AND help out on D Rose (which was highly effective for the Heat).  Then, Kevin Love can’t guard Pau inside while Taj Gibson should be able to guard Kevin Love.  To me, it looks like Chicago has the weapons to throw at LeBron and Love (Butler, Snell, Gibson, and Noah).  Then I think I trust Rose (and Hinrich) enough to slow down Kyrie Irving.  BUT, I am not sure that Irving is athletic enough to guard Rose if D Rose gets back to full strength. 

The Cavs also couldn’t use their best K Love offense of Irving, Waiters, Mike Miller, LeBron, and Love since it would get slaughtered on defense.  They couldn’t use LeBron at his best position (the 4) and basically could never let Mike Miller see the court. 

The best thing for the Cavs to do is just trade for Gorgui Dieng.  I would give T Wolves Tristan Thompson, Brendan Haywood, Joe Harris, the Heat pick, and a future Cavs first rounder for Dieng and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute.  I trust LeBron and Bennett to hold down the four, Mbah a Moute would also give them a defender to plug in at power forward, and Dieng would give them the young shot blocker they need inside as Andy V’s backup.  The Cavs could also go super big with LeBron at the 3, Wiggins at the 2, Andy V at the 4, and Dieng at center. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What does Kevin Love give the Bulls that they can’t get from Pau and Doug McDermott?

Can Kevin Love guard LeBron?  Can Kevin Love guard Tim Duncan or even Serge Ibaka?

What does a front line of Doug, Pau, and Noah not give you that K Love gives them?

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

The thing that seperates a role player from an All-Star, a three-point shot.
For example, Kent Bazemore. He’s got talent, just no 3.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

The thing that seperates a role player from an All-Star, a three-point shot.
For example, Kent Bazemore. He’s got talent, just no 3.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What does Kevin Love give the Bulls that they can’t get from Pau and Doug McDermott?

Can Kevin Love guard LeBron?  Can Kevin Love guard Tim Duncan or even Serge Ibaka?

What does a front line of Doug, Pau, and Noah not give you that K Love gives them?

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

A tweet I saw on Canis Hoopus said that Mrotic is not part of the deal. So, I doubt Flip will go with the Bulls. In other news, a third team is being taken into consideration- Philly has interest in Waiters, and the Wolves apparently have interest in Thad Young, so it’s possibly Philly jumps into the fray to help MN dump some awful contracts/acquire some talent from Cleveland, help Cleveland take in Love and retain some flexibility, and for MN to get more assets out of the deal. 

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

A tweet I saw on Canis Hoopus said that Mrotic is not part of the deal. So, I doubt Flip will go with the Bulls. In other news, a third team is being taken into consideration- Philly has interest in Waiters, and the Wolves apparently have interest in Thad Young, so it’s possibly Philly jumps into the fray to help MN dump some awful contracts/acquire some talent from Cleveland, help Cleveland take in Love and retain some flexibility, and for MN to get more assets out of the deal. 

[Dog_ShammdogParticipant]

 I really hope Chicago keeps McDermott, I know he’s a below average defender but he’s a better athlete and defender than he gets credit for and is a great kid. Chicago being relatively close to home certainly won’t hurt either. Apparently. If I were Chicago I’d live to fight another day and hold out on that trade til the deadline, hoping that he’s still there. Chicagos not completely sure what they have with a lot of their prospects. Obviously with the rookies, dougie, mirotic, and Cameron bairstow who looked like a steal in the summer league. And also tony snell whose inconsistent play has inhibited himself from cracking the starting lineup. Taj Gibson is proven and deserving of a chance to start or atleast be a "featured" type player on a team. Thusly, he is the given in any supposed trade. If love lasts til the trade deadline, the bulls will have a better idea of what they’re working with in regards to the young guys. Snell could emerge as more desireable trade piece, or bairstow could make mirotic unnecessary, McDermott could really struggle etc etc. regardless, they’ll have a better idea. They could wind up not even wanting to make a deal at all.  More likely than not they’d miss out on love, as any team would love (no pun intended) to have him and there are many in hot pursuit. It’s already a very promising roster in a very underwhelming conference, I don’t believe they should sacrifice taj Gibsons defense and tenacity to bring in Love. Adding pau and McDermott, two offensive specialists, is going to pay dividends.  They have such a nice looking roster as is, I’d really have to think hard and long before I’d be willing to tamper with it without having seen it into fruition. Let em play!

[Dog_ShammdogParticipant]

 I really hope Chicago keeps McDermott, I know he’s a below average defender but he’s a better athlete and defender than he gets credit for and is a great kid. Chicago being relatively close to home certainly won’t hurt either. Apparently. If I were Chicago I’d live to fight another day and hold out on that trade til the deadline, hoping that he’s still there. Chicagos not completely sure what they have with a lot of their prospects. Obviously with the rookies, dougie, mirotic, and Cameron bairstow who looked like a steal in the summer league. And also tony snell whose inconsistent play has inhibited himself from cracking the starting lineup. Taj Gibson is proven and deserving of a chance to start or atleast be a "featured" type player on a team. Thusly, he is the given in any supposed trade. If love lasts til the trade deadline, the bulls will have a better idea of what they’re working with in regards to the young guys. Snell could emerge as more desireable trade piece, or bairstow could make mirotic unnecessary, McDermott could really struggle etc etc. regardless, they’ll have a better idea. They could wind up not even wanting to make a deal at all.  More likely than not they’d miss out on love, as any team would love (no pun intended) to have him and there are many in hot pursuit. It’s already a very promising roster in a very underwhelming conference, I don’t believe they should sacrifice taj Gibsons defense and tenacity to bring in Love. Adding pau and McDermott, two offensive specialists, is going to pay dividends.  They have such a nice looking roster as is, I’d really have to think hard and long before I’d be willing to tamper with it without having seen it into fruition. Let em play!

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Right now, I like the way the Bulls matchup against every other team.  Two MVP candidates in Rose and Noah.  A 6th man of the year type in Pau Gasol (or Taj Gibson), and two top tier rookies in McDermott and Mirotic. 

They can go with defense with a Butler, Gibson, and Noah front line.  OR they can go with SIZE and SCORING with Butler at the 2, McDermott at the 3, Pau at the 4, with Noah anchoring the defense. 

They have a great mix of balance and depth.  And, for a gritty team they are pretty athletic with Rose, Butler, Gibson, and Noah. 

They might need an extra shooting guard but that is about it.  They look like a team that is 10 or 11 deep. 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Right now, I like the way the Bulls matchup against every other team.  Two MVP candidates in Rose and Noah.  A 6th man of the year type in Pau Gasol (or Taj Gibson), and two top tier rookies in McDermott and Mirotic. 

They can go with defense with a Butler, Gibson, and Noah front line.  OR they can go with SIZE and SCORING with Butler at the 2, McDermott at the 3, Pau at the 4, with Noah anchoring the defense. 

They have a great mix of balance and depth.  And, for a gritty team they are pretty athletic with Rose, Butler, Gibson, and Noah. 

They might need an extra shooting guard but that is about it.  They look like a team that is 10 or 11 deep. 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I don’t get how people can say this isn’t the best deal the Wolves get.  For those saying the Warriors offer is better, I believe it falls third in line at this point.  

With that being said there is no way this is legit because Flip can’t hold out for anything else.  Its either the Wolves trying to up offers or Sheridan doing his classic fishing for clicks.  I’d bet both

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I don’t get how people can say this isn’t the best deal the Wolves get.  For those saying the Warriors offer is better, I believe it falls third in line at this point.  

With that being said there is no way this is legit because Flip can’t hold out for anything else.  Its either the Wolves trying to up offers or Sheridan doing his classic fishing for clicks.  I’d bet both

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

I still don’t like what the Bulls can offer because I believe it would be settling for mediocrity.

I’ll admit I don’t know much about Mirotic, but I’ve been led to believe a middle ground moderate comparison would be a Ryan Anderson type. Could be much better could be a bust I really don’t know. For the sake of conversation, lets say he’s a top 10 draft prospect type.

Jimmy Butler shot under 40% from the field. He’s a very good defender, but is also due a contract in the near future, and his agent is the same as Rubios. Rubio wants the max. Butler wont be cheap. McDermott is a sniper and could be a solid scorer, but I see him as a solid role player and sniper off the bench. Might be typecasting him but I could see a Korver type role for him. Gibson is almost 30 and at best is a 15-8 type guy.

Rubio-Martin-Butler-Gibson-Pek is a nice lineup, but at best its a 7 seed. Its not good enough to do damage in the playoffs and its not bad enough to be a bottom 5 team where we could land elite level young talent.

To the people saying the Bulls are the favorites in the East…I think we are assuming Rose is going to be healthy a little too much. The guy wasn’t very good last year when he was healthy and hasn’t been healthy for 2 years. They got whooped by Washington, aren’t better than Indiana and are arguably on the same level as Miami and Brooklyn.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

I still don’t like what the Bulls can offer because I believe it would be settling for mediocrity.

I’ll admit I don’t know much about Mirotic, but I’ve been led to believe a middle ground moderate comparison would be a Ryan Anderson type. Could be much better could be a bust I really don’t know. For the sake of conversation, lets say he’s a top 10 draft prospect type.

Jimmy Butler shot under 40% from the field. He’s a very good defender, but is also due a contract in the near future, and his agent is the same as Rubios. Rubio wants the max. Butler wont be cheap. McDermott is a sniper and could be a solid scorer, but I see him as a solid role player and sniper off the bench. Might be typecasting him but I could see a Korver type role for him. Gibson is almost 30 and at best is a 15-8 type guy.

Rubio-Martin-Butler-Gibson-Pek is a nice lineup, but at best its a 7 seed. Its not good enough to do damage in the playoffs and its not bad enough to be a bottom 5 team where we could land elite level young talent.

To the people saying the Bulls are the favorites in the East…I think we are assuming Rose is going to be healthy a little too much. The guy wasn’t very good last year when he was healthy and hasn’t been healthy for 2 years. They got whooped by Washington, aren’t better than Indiana and are arguably on the same level as Miami and Brooklyn.

[JoeWolf1]

 There better be assets besides Love being sent to the Bulls, or I feel this is really lop-sided. 

I get that Love is a superstar, but Gibson is a defensive anchor who averaged 19.8 ppg 9.8 rpg and 1.8 bpg in 8 starts last season. Mirotic and McDermott have loads of upside, and IMO, are two exciting young assets for the Bulls. All 3 for 1 guy who is only 1 year removed from an 18 game season is too much. 

[Ghost01Participant]

I have no doubt Kevin Love is a superior player to anything the Bulls would be giving up in the deal, but here is my big issue with a deal like this from a Bulls perspective.

Kevin Love’s biggest attributes are shooting and rebounding. The Bulls don’t need shooting and rebounding, they need an athletic wing who can attack the rim. 

[Ghost01Participant]

I have no doubt Kevin Love is a superior player to anything the Bulls would be giving up in the deal, but here is my big issue with a deal like this from a Bulls perspective.

Kevin Love’s biggest attributes are shooting and rebounding. The Bulls don’t need shooting and rebounding, they need an athletic wing who can attack the rim. 

[JoeWolf1]

 There better be assets besides Love being sent to the Bulls, or I feel this is really lop-sided. 

I get that Love is a superstar, but Gibson is a defensive anchor who averaged 19.8 ppg 9.8 rpg and 1.8 bpg in 8 starts last season. Mirotic and McDermott have loads of upside, and IMO, are two exciting young assets for the Bulls. All 3 for 1 guy who is only 1 year removed from an 18 game season is too much. 

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