[TooNice4TVParticipant]

 Charles Barkley To Dan Patrick: “The NBA Sucks Right Now”

04/04/2011 – 3:19pm

 

Later, though, his focus shifted to the NBA Draft’s “one-and-done” eligibility rule, which stipulates American prospects must be a year removed from high school graduation before entering the draft. Barkley thinks the rule is wreaking havoc on the NBA’s quality of play, and Patrick thought the rule should be done away with in favor of once again allowing high school prospects to enter the draft, but requiring players who attend college to stay at least two years. Even that, though, wasn’t doing it for Barkley:

“Let’s be realistic. Only one guy – LeBron James – was good enough to play right out of high school…and he’s [a] freak of nature.

He did agree, though, that the two-year rule would improve things:

“The draft is designed for bad teams to get better, not to draft somebody who might be good in five years…Look at the NBA. We have a lot of bad teams, a lot of bad teams. They’re supposed to get someone who can help them, not a project. And that’s why the NBA sucks right now.”

http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/charles-barkley-nba-sucks/

 

I think he’s right. Teams in the most recent drafts have been straight taking players mainly because of their potential, not talent, which is a route the freshman take. Allowing the two year rule would help players find themselves in the offseason making adjustments to what they think they’re game might be at the next level and see if it works at college first. It’s been a real eye opener seeing Derrick Williams blossom the way he did his second year. And I think that Harrison Barnes coming back to Carolina to polish his game and make adjustments would be great for everyone to see. He’s been showing that potential late in the season, and it will be interesting to see him surrounded with talent at each position, That’s why I believe that the two year rule is better. There may be that Kyrie Irving, or Derrick Rose, or Melo, but there aren’t enough of those talents for the whole lottery selection from 1-14. That way, players can adjust, and teams can look at their game for more than just one year, like Russell Westbrook

 

[TylerTallenParticipant]

I like what they’re saying about the eligibility rule. Too many teams at the top are trying the "go big or go home" approach with drafting potential over proven entities, and that watered down the league tons when HS players were eligible, and continues to do so to an extent with the 1-and-done Freshman. There may be perhaps one player per class who can thrive in the league after just a year of college play, but when over half the lottery is freshman, you begin to wonder how many of them have the maturity to play in the league.

Take the former Baby Bulls of the Krause era, drafting Curry and landing Chandler in the same year, who were fish out of the water when they came into the L. It wasn’t until Paxson came in and drafted Hinrich, Ben Gordon, etc and other known entities from established programs when they finally became a playoff team. Low seed, but without a true superstar, simply making the playoffs on a yearly basis was a step up for the post-Jordan Bulls. The Wizards could use a similar approach at present. 

[TylerTallenParticipant]

 *Too many teams at the top of the draft….

 

my bad

[SteroidParticipant]

Players staying in would help college basketball(or would it?) and it would weed out the "potentials", so teams won’t waste picks… With that being said, I believe that there are better resources for NBA players than there are college players. The NBA has that over college basketball. The way the NBA is set up, There will always be really good teams and really bad ones, and it is more than the draft. It is awfully hard to build a team up through a draft. It takes a combination of making good moves in FA… The draft is only a fraction of this problem. When teams like MIA, BOS, and LA can be formed, that just means more teams below mediocrity.

[andxxxParticipant]

 I hate the argument that staying in college helps NBA players if you’re ready your ready.  The coaches are better at the NBA level with more specific attention being focused on the players.  Instead of having to worry about school work players have more time to work on their game.  There have been plenty of busts that stayed in college just as many if not more than people who came right out of highschool or stayed one year in college in the NBA. Look at the stars in the NBA right now or people considered future stars: Lebron, KG, Kobe, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo, Kevin Love, Kevin Durant, John Wall and even players like Kwame Brown, Tyson Chandler, Kendrick Perkins and Andrew Bynum aren’t the best they’re still in the league which is more than you can say for alot of players.  Do you really think if they stayed in college they would be that much better?  Would Kobe or Lebron be that much better if they stayed in college for a few more years?  People seem to hold on to this myth that already great players that stay in college will be much better for the NBA as if in the NBA they can’t improve.  The 2 year rule would be great for college basketball, but the NBA, no thanks.  I’m satisfied with the NBA right now the ratings have been better than its ever been and EVERYONE expects this to be the best playoffs the NBA has had in years.

Sorry for the rant, but ppl talking about changing the one and done rule to a 2 year rule like its a good thing is moronic in my opinion especially when you look at the success rate of player out of highschool or 1 year in college.

[andxxxParticipant]

 This wasn’t mentioned but there has been 7 different teams that have won championships since 1980 there has NEVER been much parity in the NBA

[EuroBallParticipant]

 The NBA needs a minor league for their league. I know the D league exist. The should really consider the MLB format for prospect progress. You enter the draft out of HS and go to the D League or you go to college for two or three years. But taking the D League route you got spend one year there. This will help the D league grow. The NBA gotta start now to get the game at higher level, there is a few guys that are really good elite basketball players

[sheltwon3Participant]

Barkley and other saying that kids need to stay in school more years are pumping out propaganda.  There are more busts that stay all 4 years than player coming out early.  They NBA is actually pretty good. Also it is not the player’s fault that GM are not good at evaluating talent and just gamble on potential.  Barkley should mentioned how the NBA need better Gm’s.  If you compare the high school and one year player to the Juniors and Seniors, the High School/One year players have proven to be better.  Most Seniors dont even get drafted high.

[scoutguruParticipant]

The issue though, is that a lot of times these kids are only ready to be "drafted" and not necessarily ready to contribute in any significant way for X # of years, if ever in some situations. Having just physical tools is sometimes all it takes. And those guys you mention would’ve been good regardless, they were prodigies and no matter what would’ve been good. When a guy like Perry Jones name was being floated around earlier in the year as the #1 pick, this made many cringe. Cause we all know this kid, through no fault of his own, won’t be ready to really contribute at a high level in the league til who knows when, if ever. I agree with some of the earlier comments also…nice thread.

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