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  • #50108
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    JustForThought
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    With Doc basically out the door and on his way to LA, I personally believe the Celtics should bring in Brian Shaw for the job.

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  • #799024
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I read that Boston wants to bring in Vinnie Del Negro if Doc leaves..WTF is going on in the nba coaching circles?!!! They keep recyling Losing coaches and Firing the Successful 1s for NO REASONS!!!!

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  • #798958
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    I read that Boston wants to bring in Vinnie Del Negro if Doc leaves..WTF is going on in the nba coaching circles?!!! They keep recyling Losing coaches and Firing the Successful 1s for NO REASONS!!!!

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    • #799032
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      ^LOL are u serious??????? that would be one of the dumbest moves ive ever heard………….they need to throw some money at George Karl, Lionel Hollins, or hire a guy like Shaw. Doc to the clips del negro to the celtics lol man thats too funny. surely boston wont do this

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    • #798966
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      ^LOL are u serious??????? that would be one of the dumbest moves ive ever heard………….they need to throw some money at George Karl, Lionel Hollins, or hire a guy like Shaw. Doc to the clips del negro to the celtics lol man thats too funny. surely boston wont do this

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  • #799041
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    After a pretty bad first year in L.A., Vinny Del Negro hasn’t really been that bad of a coach, has he? 96-52 isn’t a bad mark. He also led the Clippers to 56 wins this season, which I believe is the most in franchise history.

    He’s 210-184 as a NBA head coach, so his resume doesn’t look half bad. I honestly felt like he didn’t get enough credit for what he did for the Clippers. While he’s not on the same level as a coach like Doc Rivers, he is still a solid candidate for an NBA team.

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  • #798974
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    After a pretty bad first year in L.A., Vinny Del Negro hasn’t really been that bad of a coach, has he? 96-52 isn’t a bad mark. He also led the Clippers to 56 wins this season, which I believe is the most in franchise history.

    He’s 210-184 as a NBA head coach, so his resume doesn’t look half bad. I honestly felt like he didn’t get enough credit for what he did for the Clippers. While he’s not on the same level as a coach like Doc Rivers, he is still a solid candidate for an NBA team.

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    • #798978
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      what i was referring to was the irony that they are basically going to switch coaches, not that Del Negro was a god awful coach. with that said it’s the Boston Celtics theres alot of really Good coaches out there right now karl,hollins,van gundy, etc. It’s Boston even though they will be in re-build mode its gotta be a dream job. The Garden the history and those fans. Its a very attractive position IMO theres a handful of coaches much better the del negro (not that hes bad) that will want the job

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      • #799003
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        jjbutler73
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        Before Doc got there, they had been bad for many years. They have a lot of history, but it’s not easy coaching there.

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      • #799069
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        jjbutler73
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        Before Doc got there, they had been bad for many years. They have a lot of history, but it’s not easy coaching there.

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    • #799045
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      rjb241
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      what i was referring to was the irony that they are basically going to switch coaches, not that Del Negro was a god awful coach. with that said it’s the Boston Celtics theres alot of really Good coaches out there right now karl,hollins,van gundy, etc. It’s Boston even though they will be in re-build mode its gotta be a dream job. The Garden the history and those fans. Its a very attractive position IMO theres a handful of coaches much better the del negro (not that hes bad) that will want the job

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    Mr. HookShot
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    About Shaw,he is someone for the Triangle: not the best system for a PG like Rondo (who can’t shoot).

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  • #799063
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    Mr. HookShot
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    About Shaw,he is someone for the Triangle: not the best system for a PG like Rondo (who can’t shoot).

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  • #799005
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    arambone
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    I’m excited to get the clips’ 25th pick, and hopefully another first and second rounder instead of bledsoe. Two firsts and a second plus jordan and butler’s contracts isnt too much for doc, kg, and eventually pierce at cheap midlevel money, plus the future free agents that will come to the clippers because of doc. That’s all worth 2 late firsts and a late 2nd rounder.

    At 25, glenn rice looks good for the celtics but i think muscala could be a real good find there. A hardworking poor mans Pau Gasol. Could be better than ryan anderson overall.

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  • #799071
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    I’m excited to get the clips’ 25th pick, and hopefully another first and second rounder instead of bledsoe. Two firsts and a second plus jordan and butler’s contracts isnt too much for doc, kg, and eventually pierce at cheap midlevel money, plus the future free agents that will come to the clippers because of doc. That’s all worth 2 late firsts and a late 2nd rounder.

    At 25, glenn rice looks good for the celtics but i think muscala could be a real good find there. A hardworking poor mans Pau Gasol. Could be better than ryan anderson overall.

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  • #799009
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    arambone said about Muscala, ” i think muscala could be a real good find there. A hardworking poor mans Pau Gasol. Could be better than ryan anderson overall.”

    Why do guys constantly compare white players only with other white players? Please tell me what part of Muscala’s game would make arambone compare him with Pau Gasol?

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    • #799019
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      long, agile, smart, hard working, slender 7 footer with a highly versatile finesse scoring game, works for rebounds, can block some shots, but no the most stout post defender.

      I referenced ryan anderson because i picture him getting drafted low, coming off the bench as a shooting big, but mixing it up with more than just 3s. And yes i think muscala will develop an effective 3, like kevin love, larry bird, and a bunch of other white references that hopefully piss you off, lol.

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      • #799058
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        rtbt
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        Arambone, you have another great opportunity, why don’t you join the Alex Len / Myers Leonard thread? You’ll fit right in so now I’m LOL!

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        • #799072
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          Yeah, because anybody who compares a white player to another white player must be racist, right dipsht?

          If you thought my muscala comparison to a poor man’s gasol in an anderson-like role off the bench was inaccurate, you would have debated that.
          But because you know the comparison had merit, and you lack enough character to apologize for calling me racist, you dig the hole deeper, insinuating once again that I’m racist.

          Don’t throw around accusations like that lightly, and fucking apologize once you realize you jumped the gun and made that accusation.
          And if you’re just here to be a dick whenever somebody compares a white player to another white player, then fvck you too.

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          • #799074
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            rtbt
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            Armabone, please read what I wrote. I did NOT call you a RACIST! I said you used racial stereotyping which is very typical of most basketball fans. I’ve seen it for years, even on this site where if they can’t find a current active NBA white player, they’ll go back to a retired player just so they can compare white players to another one.

            In addition, it goes both ways. Those very same people always compare black players only with other black players.

            As for Muscala, if he were a poor man’s Pau Gasol, instead of number 41, he would be rated fairly high on the draft board. He’s only a poor man’s Gasol in your eyes. But I hope I’m wrong about Muscala, I love to see unheralded players succeed.

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            • #799092
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              arambone
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              Well, maybe Muscala is being underrated because he is white, in a league that is what, 80-90% black? Maybe it’s because he’s not only white, but can’t jump super high either. And in addition, he played in the Patriot League. White guy who can’t jump from small school? Even I’m not inclined to give that kind of guy the benefit of the doubt.

              But he’s been lighting it up from everywhere in workouts, and I don’t think it’s just luck. Big guy stuck in post role, and he’s now finally able to spread his wings and show his perimeter skills.

              Sullinger didnt get to shoot outside much in college either, but was great from midrange as a rookie.

              Cody Zeller is also showing major range he wasnt able to show in college.

              I think Muscala is getting slept on because he is 7 feet, and therefore typecast as a center only. But I see him as a tall 4 or light 5, and having a backup big that can spread the floor, attack off the dribble, and play two positions.

              If he played in a big conference he’d be getting more hype, and he’ll likely always be a bit light in the pants with his narrow hips. That’s a disadvantage defensively.

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            • #799159
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              Well, maybe Muscala is being underrated because he is white, in a league that is what, 80-90% black? Maybe it’s because he’s not only white, but can’t jump super high either. And in addition, he played in the Patriot League. White guy who can’t jump from small school? Even I’m not inclined to give that kind of guy the benefit of the doubt.

              But he’s been lighting it up from everywhere in workouts, and I don’t think it’s just luck. Big guy stuck in post role, and he’s now finally able to spread his wings and show his perimeter skills.

              Sullinger didnt get to shoot outside much in college either, but was great from midrange as a rookie.

              Cody Zeller is also showing major range he wasnt able to show in college.

              I think Muscala is getting slept on because he is 7 feet, and therefore typecast as a center only. But I see him as a tall 4 or light 5, and having a backup big that can spread the floor, attack off the dribble, and play two positions.

              If he played in a big conference he’d be getting more hype, and he’ll likely always be a bit light in the pants with his narrow hips. That’s a disadvantage defensively.

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            • #799094
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              arambone
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              Well, maybe Muscala is being underrated because he is white, in a league that is what, 80-90% black? Maybe it’s because he’s not only white, but can’t jump super high either. And in addition, he played in the Patriot League. White guy who can’t jump from small school? Even I’m not inclined to give that kind of guy the benefit of the doubt.

              But he’s been lighting it up from everywhere in workouts, and I don’t think it’s just luck. Big guy stuck in post role, and he’s now finally able to spread his wings and show his perimeter skills.

              Sullinger didnt get to shoot outside much in college either, but was great from midrange as a rookie.

              Cody Zeller is also showing major range he wasnt able to show in college.

              I think Muscala is getting slept on because he is 7 feet, and therefore typecast as a center only. But I see him as a tall 4 or light 5, and having a backup big that can spread the floor, attack off the dribble, and play two positions.

              If he played in a big conference he’d be getting more hype, and he’ll likely always be a bit light in the pants with his narrow hips. That’s a disadvantage defensively.

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              • #799100
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                rtbt
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                I hope you’re right about Muscala because I would love to see a guy from Bucknell excel in the NBA. As for his workouts, obviously that’s a plus, but doing well in workouts is very different than impressing scouts in a real game.

                And you might be surprised to learn that I actually agree with you in that some white guys, or Asian guys like Jeremy Lin, are underrated because of racial stereotyping. It happened to JJ Redick and Tyler Hanbrough, both of whom are solid players.

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                • #799112
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                  And we saw TZeller drop to 18 last year and play like a top 10 pick, while TRob went number 4.

                  2013 is the year of the white tweener big. CZeller, Olynyk, Plumlee, Muscala.

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                • #799178
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                  And we saw TZeller drop to 18 last year and play like a top 10 pick, while TRob went number 4.

                  2013 is the year of the white tweener big. CZeller, Olynyk, Plumlee, Muscala.

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              • #799167
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                rtbt
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                I hope you’re right about Muscala because I would love to see a guy from Bucknell excel in the NBA. As for his workouts, obviously that’s a plus, but doing well in workouts is very different than impressing scouts in a real game.

                And you might be surprised to learn that I actually agree with you in that some white guys, or Asian guys like Jeremy Lin, are underrated because of racial stereotyping. It happened to JJ Redick and Tyler Hanbrough, both of whom are solid players.

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            • #799161
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              arambone
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              Well, maybe Muscala is being underrated because he is white, in a league that is what, 80-90% black? Maybe it’s because he’s not only white, but can’t jump super high either. And in addition, he played in the Patriot League. White guy who can’t jump from small school? Even I’m not inclined to give that kind of guy the benefit of the doubt.

              But he’s been lighting it up from everywhere in workouts, and I don’t think it’s just luck. Big guy stuck in post role, and he’s now finally able to spread his wings and show his perimeter skills.

              Sullinger didnt get to shoot outside much in college either, but was great from midrange as a rookie.

              Cody Zeller is also showing major range he wasnt able to show in college.

              I think Muscala is getting slept on because he is 7 feet, and therefore typecast as a center only. But I see him as a tall 4 or light 5, and having a backup big that can spread the floor, attack off the dribble, and play two positions.

              If he played in a big conference he’d be getting more hype, and he’ll likely always be a bit light in the pants with his narrow hips. That’s a disadvantage defensively.

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          • #799141
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            Armabone, please read what I wrote. I did NOT call you a RACIST! I said you used racial stereotyping which is very typical of most basketball fans. I’ve seen it for years, even on this site where if they can’t find a current active NBA white player, they’ll go back to a retired player just so they can compare white players to another one.

            In addition, it goes both ways. Those very same people always compare black players only with other black players.

            As for Muscala, if he were a poor man’s Pau Gasol, instead of number 41, he would be rated fairly high on the draft board. He’s only a poor man’s Gasol in your eyes. But I hope I’m wrong about Muscala, I love to see unheralded players succeed.

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        • #799139
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          arambone
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          Yeah, because anybody who compares a white player to another white player must be racist, right dipsht?

          If you thought my muscala comparison to a poor man’s gasol in an anderson-like role off the bench was inaccurate, you would have debated that.
          But because you know the comparison had merit, and you lack enough character to apologize for calling me racist, you dig the hole deeper, insinuating once again that I’m racist.

          Don’t throw around accusations like that lightly, and fucking apologize once you realize you jumped the gun and made that accusation.
          And if you’re just here to be a dick whenever somebody compares a white player to another white player, then fvck you too.

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      • #799125
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        rtbt
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        Arambone, you have another great opportunity, why don’t you join the Alex Len / Myers Leonard thread? You’ll fit right in so now I’m LOL!

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    • #799085
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      arambone
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      long, agile, smart, hard working, slender 7 footer with a highly versatile finesse scoring game, works for rebounds, can block some shots, but no the most stout post defender.

      I referenced ryan anderson because i picture him getting drafted low, coming off the bench as a shooting big, but mixing it up with more than just 3s. And yes i think muscala will develop an effective 3, like kevin love, larry bird, and a bunch of other white references that hopefully piss you off, lol.

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  • #799075
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    rtbt
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    arambone said about Muscala, ” i think muscala could be a real good find there. A hardworking poor mans Pau Gasol. Could be better than ryan anderson overall.”

    Why do guys constantly compare white players only with other white players? Please tell me what part of Muscala’s game would make arambone compare him with Pau Gasol?

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  • #799023
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    George Karl would be the perfect hire for the Celtics. It is probably a long shot, but he could help solve their offensive woes and his system should allow Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green to shine.

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    • #799233
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      This, even more so if they somehow get Bledsoe too. If the Celtics plan on sticking with Rondo as their future, then they are going to need a head coach who can handle his personality. Doc was a great players coach and so is Karl, so the transition wouldn’t be that bad. I would love to see Rondo in an up-tempo offense, and think he could average double digit assists easy. I also think Karl is pretty good at developing players, and could help if we plan on rebuilding instead of retooling (which is what I hope they do).

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    • #799166
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      This, even more so if they somehow get Bledsoe too. If the Celtics plan on sticking with Rondo as their future, then they are going to need a head coach who can handle his personality. Doc was a great players coach and so is Karl, so the transition wouldn’t be that bad. I would love to see Rondo in an up-tempo offense, and think he could average double digit assists easy. I also think Karl is pretty good at developing players, and could help if we plan on rebuilding instead of retooling (which is what I hope they do).

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  • #799089
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    George Karl would be the perfect hire for the Celtics. It is probably a long shot, but he could help solve their offensive woes and his system should allow Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green to shine.

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  • #799064
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    If they do that Clippers trade then the Celtics will have some things to work with. Rondo, Bledsoe, Jeff Green, DeAndre Jordan, Avery Bradley, and Jared Sullinger should be promising. Plus the draft picks.

    This probably won’t happen. Ok, no way in heck this happens, but I kind of would like to see the Celtics name Larry Bird the next coach. Bird can coach and he would give them some of that mystique back. He can then bring in Brian Shaw as an assistant coach as well as Ed Pinckney (rumored to have interviewed for the Grizzlies top job).

    It would be like 1992 all over again.

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  • #799131
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    If they do that Clippers trade then the Celtics will have some things to work with. Rondo, Bledsoe, Jeff Green, DeAndre Jordan, Avery Bradley, and Jared Sullinger should be promising. Plus the draft picks.

    This probably won’t happen. Ok, no way in heck this happens, but I kind of would like to see the Celtics name Larry Bird the next coach. Bird can coach and he would give them some of that mystique back. He can then bring in Brian Shaw as an assistant coach as well as Ed Pinckney (rumored to have interviewed for the Grizzlies top job).

    It would be like 1992 all over again.

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  • #799144
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    there are so many talented coaches. don’t understand why they want del negro.

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  • #799211
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    durantula621
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    there are so many talented coaches. don’t understand why they want del negro.

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  • #799156
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    Mike Muscala is a very very very scrappy player. He brings his lunch pail to work every day. He works hard. His tool box includes hustle and floor burns. Other than that, I have never seen the guy play.

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  • #799223
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    Mike Muscala is a very very very scrappy player. He brings his lunch pail to work every day. He works hard. His tool box includes hustle and floor burns. Other than that, I have never seen the guy play.

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