Can I get some player comparisons for Micheal Carter-Williams and Nerlens Noel???

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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:31pm #51795

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Micheal Carter Williams 6’6 Pg from Syracuse
Nerlens Noel 6’11 F/C from Kentucky
They have a lot of potential, but who do they compare too???
My friend said MCW is a poor man’s John Wall and that Noel could be a Rodman like defender and rebounder, I thought he was talking crazy because The Worm was an amazing defender/rebounder and I don’t know how I feel about the MCW/Wall comparison either, although they do have a lot of the same physical attributes…
Can I get help with some player comparisons???
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:36pm #833325

ProudGrandpa
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Greivis Vazquez is a solid MCW comparison, I believe. Great size, great passers, subpar shooters.
Nerlens Noel is pretty unique. I might compare him to a young Theo Ratliff. Undersized shot blockers both.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:36pm #833220

ProudGrandpa
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Greivis Vazquez is a solid MCW comparison, I believe. Great size, great passers, subpar shooters.
Nerlens Noel is pretty unique. I might compare him to a young Theo Ratliff. Undersized shot blockers both.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:14pm #833349
  
  Sewok15
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  I like those comparisons but Vazquez is a better shooter than MCW and not as good of a defender. I would be surprised if MCW shot 40% this season.
  Noel doesn’t have the strength of Ratliff but he does have better lateral movement. I think he also has some decent playmaking potential for a big man. I would compare him to a combination of Larry Sanders and Noah.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:14pm #833244
  
  Sewok15
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  I like those comparisons but Vazquez is a better shooter than MCW and not as good of a defender. I would be surprised if MCW shot 40% this season.
  Noel doesn’t have the strength of Ratliff but he does have better lateral movement. I think he also has some decent playmaking potential for a big man. I would compare him to a combination of Larry Sanders and Noah.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:41pm #833328

McDunkin
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:41pm #833223

McDunkin
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:56pm #833341

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From what I’ve seen out of MCW through highlights and summer league play is that he’s not afraid to drive to the basket and he has great speed and athleticism, he was a TO machine too, Vasquez plays at a slower pace and take’s care of ball I little more, he is older than MCW by a few years though…
Ratliff/Noel, yeah i don’t know about that either, If Noel only turns out to be a Theo Ratliff like C then he was a waste of the 6th pick, you don’t waste top 10 picks on guys that compare to Theo Ratliff…
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:56pm #833236

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From what I’ve seen out of MCW through highlights and summer league play is that he’s not afraid to drive to the basket and he has great speed and athleticism, he was a TO machine too, Vasquez plays at a slower pace and take’s care of ball I little more, he is older than MCW by a few years though…
Ratliff/Noel, yeah i don’t know about that either, If Noel only turns out to be a Theo Ratliff like C then he was a waste of the 6th pick, you don’t waste top 10 picks on guys that compare to Theo Ratliff…
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:13pm #833347
  
  Tongue-Out-Like-23
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  “Ratliff/Noel, yeah i don’t know about that either, If Noel only turns out to be a Theo Ratliff like C then he was a waste of the 6th pick, you don’t waste top 10 picks on guys that compare to Theo Ratliff…”
  Picks are wasted all the time. Do you really think the Hawks would waste a #2 pick if they knew Marvin Williams would turn out how he did?
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:13pm #833242
  
  Tongue-Out-Like-23
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  “Ratliff/Noel, yeah i don’t know about that either, If Noel only turns out to be a Theo Ratliff like C then he was a waste of the 6th pick, you don’t waste top 10 picks on guys that compare to Theo Ratliff…”
  Picks are wasted all the time. Do you really think the Hawks would waste a #2 pick if they knew Marvin Williams would turn out how he did?
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:15pm #833320
    
    frogman
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    Anthony Bennett was compared to Rodney Rogers and Jason Maxiell on this site and he was taken 1st overall lol. I’m sure teams would be climbing over one another to get their hands on a Rogers, Maxiell hybrid! Theo Ratliff looks like a world beater now doesn’t he. You can only select who is in the draft and Noel was consensus top 10.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:15pm #833426
    
    frogman
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    Anthony Bennett was compared to Rodney Rogers and Jason Maxiell on this site and he was taken 1st overall lol. I’m sure teams would be climbing over one another to get their hands on a Rogers, Maxiell hybrid! Theo Ratliff looks like a world beater now doesn’t he. You can only select who is in the draft and Noel was consensus top 10.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 6:00pm #833367
  
  dacula18
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  Didn’t Theo Ratliff win a couple of defensive player of the year awards and average nearly 5 blocks a game for a few years?
  I’m sure the 76ers would be happy to have a player like that as opposed to a player who never plays due to injury or a complete bust, which are two other options for Noel.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 6:00pm #833476
  
  dacula18
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  Didn’t Theo Ratliff win a couple of defensive player of the year awards and average nearly 5 blocks a game for a few years?
  I’m sure the 76ers would be happy to have a player like that as opposed to a player who never plays due to injury or a complete bust, which are two other options for Noel.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:02pm #833343

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MCW could be a better Greivis Vasquez because of his Athletic ability. His Ceiling is Quite high if he develops.
Some say he is one of the few of this draft who could be an All Star.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:02pm #833238

krypttroll
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MCW could be a better Greivis Vasquez because of his Athletic ability. His Ceiling is Quite high if he develops.
Some say he is one of the few of this draft who could be an All Star.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:24pm #833355
  
  Sewok15
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  I don’t see MCW as an all star. He can’t shoot a lick and is a turnover machine. He will be a solid defender and have some decent assist #s in his prime but I don’t think he will ever score consistently enough to be an all star…especially with all the really good young PGs in the league.
  As a Sixers fan I like the direction that they have gone deciding to get younger and rebuild/tank. I just am not crazy about the players they got. I know this wasn’t exactly a stacked draft but Noel and MCW were two guys I wasn’t sold on…because of their offensive limitations.
  I wish they would have gotten McLemore because he is a guy with true all star potential. The Sixers desperately need shooting. 11th was a tougher pick because I saw a significant drop off outside the top 10. I still probably would have taken MCW at 11 and they would have had their backcourt of the future. Then next year they can hope for #1 and get Wiggins but if not and they get Randle or Parker that would still fill a need. Then they could draft a young big with the Pelicans pick they have like WCS or Embiid.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:24pm #833251
  
  Sewok15
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  I don’t see MCW as an all star. He can’t shoot a lick and is a turnover machine. He will be a solid defender and have some decent assist #s in his prime but I don’t think he will ever score consistently enough to be an all star…especially with all the really good young PGs in the league.
  As a Sixers fan I like the direction that they have gone deciding to get younger and rebuild/tank. I just am not crazy about the players they got. I know this wasn’t exactly a stacked draft but Noel and MCW were two guys I wasn’t sold on…because of their offensive limitations.
  I wish they would have gotten McLemore because he is a guy with true all star potential. The Sixers desperately need shooting. 11th was a tougher pick because I saw a significant drop off outside the top 10. I still probably would have taken MCW at 11 and they would have had their backcourt of the future. Then next year they can hope for #1 and get Wiggins but if not and they get Randle or Parker that would still fill a need. Then they could draft a young big with the Pelicans pick they have like WCS or Embiid.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:09pm #833318
    
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    It’ll be interesting to see how MCW develops. I’m higher on him than most. I think he’ll eventually develop his jumpshot into being just respectable enough that it isn’t a complete liability and that he’ll become a pretty good scorer inside.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:09pm #833424
    
    machu46
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    It’ll be interesting to see how MCW develops. I’m higher on him than most. I think he’ll eventually develop his jumpshot into being just respectable enough that it isn’t a complete liability and that he’ll become a pretty good scorer inside.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:16pm #833353

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I don’t see any of the same physical attributes between Wall & MCW….
If i had one comparison for MCW, it would be what Shaun Livingston could’ve been.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:16pm #833249

WolfRob
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I don’t see any of the same physical attributes between Wall & MCW….
If i had one comparison for MCW, it would be what Shaun Livingston could’ve been.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:36pm #833359

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Noel – Larry Sanders ( remember, he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet ) – Sanders is a 9/9/3 player in his 3rd year and I think Noel can do the same thing. Sanders, and Noel’s other main comparison Tyson Chandler did not take the league by storm, but they were good rebounders and shot blockers right away who, when they started to get used to the NBA game really found a nitch protecting the rim. I think Noel can be a 13-14 ppg 10-11 rpg 3 bpg player in his prime.
MCW – Marco Jaric ( if he hadn’t thrown in the towel after getting a good contract ) – Remember Marco Jaric? 6’7”, long athletic point guard who was a good defender and high volume steals player, a guy who wasn’t the most efficient scorer, but could spread the ball around and drive to the hoop. By his 3rd year he was 10 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg and 1.7, but for some reason rather than excelling in his prime, he took a contract from the T-Wolves and faded into obscurity. Now, I now this is obscure, but every other tall point guard is a worse comparison IMO. Livingston was razzle and dazzle with a Tony Parker-esque stop and pivot post move on his drive, Julyn Stone, well, he’s never going to hit the 100 NBA game mark, and Grevius Vasquez isn’t athletic AT ALL which makes him have a much different playing style than the super athletic Williams. Jaric was big, athletic, liked to drive, wasn’t a great shooter, but could distribute the ball and get in the passing lanes…He’s the best I got. I doubt MCW will take a big contract and hit the road, but if Jaric would have continued to compete, I think he could have been a 14 ppg 7 apg 4 rpg 2 spg guy…I see that for Williams too.
Long story short, Philly got two good prospects, neither I see being stars, but I think in their primes they could start for most teams in the league.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:36pm #833255

JoeWolf1
Noel – Larry Sanders ( remember, he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet ) – Sanders is a 9/9/3 player in his 3rd year and I think Noel can do the same thing. Sanders, and Noel’s other main comparison Tyson Chandler did not take the league by storm, but they were good rebounders and shot blockers right away who, when they started to get used to the NBA game really found a nitch protecting the rim. I think Noel can be a 13-14 ppg 10-11 rpg 3 bpg player in his prime.
MCW – Marco Jaric ( if he hadn’t thrown in the towel after getting a good contract ) – Remember Marco Jaric? 6’7”, long athletic point guard who was a good defender and high volume steals player, a guy who wasn’t the most efficient scorer, but could spread the ball around and drive to the hoop. By his 3rd year he was 10 ppg 6 apg 3 rpg and 1.7, but for some reason rather than excelling in his prime, he took a contract from the T-Wolves and faded into obscurity. Now, I now this is obscure, but every other tall point guard is a worse comparison IMO. Livingston was razzle and dazzle with a Tony Parker-esque stop and pivot post move on his drive, Julyn Stone, well, he’s never going to hit the 100 NBA game mark, and Grevius Vasquez isn’t athletic AT ALL which makes him have a much different playing style than the super athletic Williams. Jaric was big, athletic, liked to drive, wasn’t a great shooter, but could distribute the ball and get in the passing lanes…He’s the best I got. I doubt MCW will take a big contract and hit the road, but if Jaric would have continued to compete, I think he could have been a 14 ppg 7 apg 4 rpg 2 spg guy…I see that for Williams too.
Long story short, Philly got two good prospects, neither I see being stars, but I think in their primes they could start for most teams in the league.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:15pm #833281
  
  Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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  I don’t blame Marco Jaric for giving up his basketball career, throwing in the towel, and fading into obscurity. He married Adriana Lima and had 2 kids, I’d take his life without basketball any day. lol
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:19pm #833291
    
    JoeWolf1
    Damn! I had no idea, hard to fault Marco, lol
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:19pm #833395
    
    JoeWolf1
    Damn! I had no idea, hard to fault Marco, lol
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:42pm #833308
    
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    For a good four years she was considered top 10 hottest females in the world by Maxim magazines.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:42pm #833413
    
    For_Never_Ever
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    For a good four years she was considered top 10 hottest females in the world by Maxim magazines.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:15pm #833385
  
  Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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  I don’t blame Marco Jaric for giving up his basketball career, throwing in the towel, and fading into obscurity. He married Adriana Lima and had 2 kids, I’d take his life without basketball any day. lol
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:21pm #833285
  
  koty
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  I agree with what you are saying. Both are quality pieces but far from sure things. What the 76ers can hope for is getting either Wiggins or Randle with their top pick and hope the Pelicans pick is somewhere from 7-10 so they can get a player like Dario Saric, Montrezl Harrel, Gary Harris. A starting lineup that is something like MCW-Evan Turner-Dario Saric-Julius Randle- Noel with Thaddeus Young on the bench would suck for the first few years but you could have a much worse core of 6 guys going forward.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:21pm #833389
  
  koty
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  I agree with what you are saying. Both are quality pieces but far from sure things. What the 76ers can hope for is getting either Wiggins or Randle with their top pick and hope the Pelicans pick is somewhere from 7-10 so they can get a player like Dario Saric, Montrezl Harrel, Gary Harris. A starting lineup that is something like MCW-Evan Turner-Dario Saric-Julius Randle- Noel with Thaddeus Young on the bench would suck for the first few years but you could have a much worse core of 6 guys going forward.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:39pm #833357

machu46
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Yeah I’d say somewhere between Greivis Vasquez and what Shaun Livingston’s ceiling was is probably about where MCW will end up. I’ve watched every game that he’s played since he got to Syracuse, and some of his high school games as well. I think he’s going to develop into an above average starter at the PG position.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 1:39pm #833253

machu46
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Yeah I’d say somewhere between Greivis Vasquez and what Shaun Livingston’s ceiling was is probably about where MCW will end up. I’ve watched every game that he’s played since he got to Syracuse, and some of his high school games as well. I think he’s going to develop into an above average starter at the PG position.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:19pm #833283

agentoaktree
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Rodman’s combination of heart and athleticism will not come with Noel, MCW could put up numbers on a weak 6ers team but his defense and turnover addiction is not too my taste
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:19pm #833387

agentoaktree
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Rodman’s combination of heart and athleticism will not come with Noel, MCW could put up numbers on a weak 6ers team but his defense and turnover addiction is not too my taste
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:21pm #833287

princejames
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Micheal Carter Williams = Vonteego Cummings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRV1y3FM–w
Nerlens Noel = Larry Sanders / Samuel Dalembert
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:27pm #833298
  
  JoeWolf1
  Cummings was a combo guard who didn’t stick in the league. He was kind of a chucker, what makes you think he’s similar to MCW? I see nothing, he was the John Lucas III of his era.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:08pm #833314
    
    princejames
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    MCW = Mardy Collins / Vonteego Cummings
    JoeWolf1 I’m sorry, but to tell you the truth I don’t really think that Micheal Carter Williams is an NBA Starting point guard. He’s extremely inconsistent, commits a lot of turnovers, has a hard time handling the ball against tough defensive pressure from very quick and physical point guards, is a very good athlete in space, but is an average athlete in traffic, he struggles finishing lay-ups in traffic, and is an average and very streaky shooter
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    - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:13pm #833322
      
      JoeWolf1
      That’s fine if you have a different opinion, but Cummings is an awful comparison ( what I asked about, not whether you thought he’d start ). Did you ever see him play or did you just dig up an obscure guy on basketball-reference? Cummings was a shot happy combo guard, think Willie Warren, JL3 or a poor mans Gary Neal.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:13pm #833428
      
      JoeWolf1
      That’s fine if you have a different opinion, but Cummings is an awful comparison ( what I asked about, not whether you thought he’d start ). Did you ever see him play or did you just dig up an obscure guy on basketball-reference? Cummings was a shot happy combo guard, think Willie Warren, JL3 or a poor mans Gary Neal.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:08pm #833419
    
    princejames
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    MCW = Mardy Collins / Vonteego Cummings
    JoeWolf1 I’m sorry, but to tell you the truth I don’t really think that Micheal Carter Williams is an NBA Starting point guard. He’s extremely inconsistent, commits a lot of turnovers, has a hard time handling the ball against tough defensive pressure from very quick and physical point guards, is a very good athlete in space, but is an average athlete in traffic, he struggles finishing lay-ups in traffic, and is an average and very streaky shooter
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:27pm #833403
  
  JoeWolf1
  Cummings was a combo guard who didn’t stick in the league. He was kind of a chucker, what makes you think he’s similar to MCW? I see nothing, he was the John Lucas III of his era.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:21pm #833391

princejames
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Micheal Carter Williams = Vonteego Cummings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRV1y3FM–w
Nerlens Noel = Larry Sanders / Samuel Dalembert
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:24pm #833289

agentoaktree
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bro as an Israeli I can say MCW will never defend like that. Noel’s ability to get a steal or two per game is also quite valuable defensively thats where I could see the Sanders thing
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:24pm #833393

agentoaktree
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bro as an Israeli I can say MCW will never defend like that. Noel’s ability to get a steal or two per game is also quite valuable defensively thats where I could see the Sanders thing
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:38pm #833302

r377
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MCW – poor mans Ricky Rubio
Noel – Tyson Chandler
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:20pm #833327
  
  ProudGrandpa
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  A poor man’s Rubio…who’s 6’6″ and can defend on the perimeter…
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:12pm #833360
    
    machu46
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    I can somewhat see the comparison, but obviously there’s some big differences. However, Rubio is a great defender.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:12pm #833468
    
    machu46
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    I can somewhat see the comparison, but obviously there’s some big differences. However, Rubio is a great defender.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:20pm #833434
  
  ProudGrandpa
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  A poor man’s Rubio…who’s 6’6″ and can defend on the perimeter…
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 2:38pm #833407

r377
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MCW – poor mans Ricky Rubio
Noel – Tyson Chandler
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:58pm #833334

BenchWarmer
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Michael Carter Williams bestcase maybe poor mans Baron Davis? Athlitc bigs pgs (Baron Davis maybe not height wise but was a burly pg) that play out of control. Good exciting passers that can fill the stat sheet.
Nerlens Noel Larry Sanders.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:58pm #833442

BenchWarmer
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Michael Carter Williams bestcase maybe poor mans Baron Davis? Athlitc bigs pgs (Baron Davis maybe not height wise but was a burly pg) that play out of control. Good exciting passers that can fill the stat sheet.
Nerlens Noel Larry Sanders.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 4:16pm #833338

sheltwon3
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I actually think that Philly is going to give MCW minutes so his first year stats will probably be good and bad. He will probably average a lot of assists and points while committing a lot of turnovers so judging him by his stats would be wrong because when he gets betters his stats may actually decrease while his deficiency increases. Think about who else does Philly have. I don’t believe they plan to be good this year. Moving Holiday meant they prepared for tanking but if by some chance MCW develops into a stud that is icing on the cake.
Also in the way the NBA game now a healthy Theo Ratliff would be a top 5 pick. Theo put up numbers when they actually had more big men that wanted to be big men. Now Ratliff would get pick and rolls for offense and also his defense would make him a top 5 center since there are not a lot of stand out centers and Ratliff averaged 3 or more blocks while also getting points and rebounds. His health hurt his overall stats because he had some monster games but could stay consistent due to injuries.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 4:16pm #833446

sheltwon3
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I actually think that Philly is going to give MCW minutes so his first year stats will probably be good and bad. He will probably average a lot of assists and points while committing a lot of turnovers so judging him by his stats would be wrong because when he gets betters his stats may actually decrease while his deficiency increases. Think about who else does Philly have. I don’t believe they plan to be good this year. Moving Holiday meant they prepared for tanking but if by some chance MCW develops into a stud that is icing on the cake.
Also in the way the NBA game now a healthy Theo Ratliff would be a top 5 pick. Theo put up numbers when they actually had more big men that wanted to be big men. Now Ratliff would get pick and rolls for offense and also his defense would make him a top 5 center since there are not a lot of stand out centers and Ratliff averaged 3 or more blocks while also getting points and rebounds. His health hurt his overall stats because he had some monster games but could stay consistent due to injuries.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 4:18pm #833340

ItsVictorOladipo
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Michael Carter Williams – Michael Ray Richardson without the ability to attack the basket (and also hopefully without the cocaine addiction)
Both tall, long point guards who can pass, defend, and get lots of steals but aren’t good shooters.
Nerlens Noel – Marcus Camby with better passing ability
Tall, long and lean with terrific shot-blocking and defensive potential. He can also get steals and has very good mobility for a big man although he will never have much mass or upper body strength.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 4:18pm #833448

ItsVictorOladipo
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Michael Carter Williams – Michael Ray Richardson without the ability to attack the basket (and also hopefully without the cocaine addiction)
Both tall, long point guards who can pass, defend, and get lots of steals but aren’t good shooters.
Nerlens Noel – Marcus Camby with better passing ability
Tall, long and lean with terrific shot-blocking and defensive potential. He can also get steals and has very good mobility for a big man although he will never have much mass or upper body strength.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:50pm #833365

JordanC20
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MCW – Shaun Lvingston
Noel – Ben Wallace
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:58pm #833372
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  Wallace was an absolute beast and a bruiser loaded with muscle. IMO comparing Noel as a prospect to Wallace as a player would have been like comparing Chris Bosh as a prospect to Karl Malone as a player.
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- Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:58pm #833480
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  Wallace was an absolute beast and a bruiser loaded with muscle. IMO comparing Noel as a prospect to Wallace as a player would have been like comparing Chris Bosh as a prospect to Karl Malone as a player.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 5:50pm #833474

JordanC20
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MCW – Shaun Lvingston
Noel – Ben Wallace
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 6:46pm #833386

Memphis Madness
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I would compare Nerlens Noel to a poor man’s Bill Russell. Maybe a homeless man’s version but whatever. Noel is long,
fluid, and an uncanny shot blocker. He will help you win games with D, shot blocking, and rebounding. Will never be a great shooter.
If MCW works on his shot I could see him being like Brian Shaw. Shaw was a 6’6 point guard who could handle some, pass, lead, and score a bit.
Not the best athlete but a solid player. Shaw was a winner and really developed that 3 point shot. He helped the Lakers win some rings and threw some alley oops to Shaq. That would be a comparison on the low side if MCW develops a 3 point shot. For an upside comparison I would say Fat Lever but I never saw him play.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 6:46pm #833494

Memphis Madness
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I would compare Nerlens Noel to a poor man’s Bill Russell. Maybe a homeless man’s version but whatever. Noel is long,
fluid, and an uncanny shot blocker. He will help you win games with D, shot blocking, and rebounding. Will never be a great shooter.
If MCW works on his shot I could see him being like Brian Shaw. Shaw was a 6’6 point guard who could handle some, pass, lead, and score a bit.
Not the best athlete but a solid player. Shaw was a winner and really developed that 3 point shot. He helped the Lakers win some rings and threw some alley oops to Shaq. That would be a comparison on the low side if MCW develops a 3 point shot. For an upside comparison I would say Fat Lever but I never saw him play.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 7:24pm #833392

DolanCare
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Lol I knew this was a ScareCrow thread just from the title. I know wayyy too much about this site.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 7:24pm #833500

DolanCare
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Lol I knew this was a ScareCrow thread just from the title. I know wayyy too much about this site.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 8:09pm #833404

RUDEBOY_
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Here Are 2 Great Player Comparisions for Nerlens Noel…LMAO
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 8:09pm #833511

RUDEBOY_
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Here Are 2 Great Player Comparisions for Nerlens Noel…LMAO
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 2:51am #833559

Jester87
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I’m surprised nobody compared Noel to Marcus Camby, at least young Camby and obviously as a ceiling. Very similar bodies and athleticism, defensive minded bigs without back to the basket moves. Camby could hit mid range jumpers occasionally, something that Noel can’t do at all and coming into the league Camby was more developed as a basketball player, had a better understanding of the game, especially on D (he wasn’t just a run-jump block first defender, had good awareness and position). Anyways, I think Noel might learn some of these things and still there are so many similarities in their games and, obviously, it’s just impossible to find two identical players.
It’s much harder to find a good comparison for MCW because players with his characteristics are rare in the Nba (tall, athletic, pass first PGs that can’t shoot), while there have been many of them in college basketball didn’t made it to the Nba. Jaric might be not that bad, but he wasn’t a pure, natural PG like MCW, he came in the Nba as a player without a true position, he played some point in Italy because of team needs but he was mostly a wing, then in the Nba Clippers moved him to the point because he had some skills as a playmaker and was bad playing off the ball.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 2:51am #833451

Jester87
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I’m surprised nobody compared Noel to Marcus Camby, at least young Camby and obviously as a ceiling. Very similar bodies and athleticism, defensive minded bigs without back to the basket moves. Camby could hit mid range jumpers occasionally, something that Noel can’t do at all and coming into the league Camby was more developed as a basketball player, had a better understanding of the game, especially on D (he wasn’t just a run-jump block first defender, had good awareness and position). Anyways, I think Noel might learn some of these things and still there are so many similarities in their games and, obviously, it’s just impossible to find two identical players.
It’s much harder to find a good comparison for MCW because players with his characteristics are rare in the Nba (tall, athletic, pass first PGs that can’t shoot), while there have been many of them in college basketball didn’t made it to the Nba. Jaric might be not that bad, but he wasn’t a pure, natural PG like MCW, he came in the Nba as a player without a true position, he played some point in Italy because of team needs but he was mostly a wing, then in the Nba Clippers moved him to the point because he had some skills as a playmaker and was bad playing off the ball.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:05am #833550
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  I’m surprised nobody compared Noel to Marcus Camby
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:57am #833574
    
    Jester87
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    Lol, my bad, I totally missed your post.
    Chandler makes sense too for Noel, but he has to work a lot and he seems more of an instinctive defensive player than Chandler, who’s smarter (Chandler is probably the best interior defender in the league and has never been a premium shot blocker, while Noel’s biggest strength is his shot blocking ability)
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:57am #833681
    
    Jester87
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    Lol, my bad, I totally missed your post.
    Chandler makes sense too for Noel, but he has to work a lot and he seems more of an instinctive defensive player than Chandler, who’s smarter (Chandler is probably the best interior defender in the league and has never been a premium shot blocker, while Noel’s biggest strength is his shot blocking ability)
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 10:00am #833578
    
    Jester87
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    Lol, my bad, I totally missed your post.
    Chandler makes sense too for Noel, but he has to work a lot and he seems more of an instinctive defensive player than Chandler, who’s smarter (Chandler is probably the best interior defender in the league and has never been a premium shot blocker, while Noel’s biggest strength is his shot blocking ability)
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 10:00am #833685
    
    Jester87
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    Lol, my bad, I totally missed your post.
    Chandler makes sense too for Noel, but he has to work a lot and he seems more of an instinctive defensive player than Chandler, who’s smarter (Chandler is probably the best interior defender in the league and has never been a premium shot blocker, while Noel’s biggest strength is his shot blocking ability)
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:05am #833657
  
  ItsVictorOladipo
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  I’m surprised nobody compared Noel to Marcus Camby
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  I did
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 4:32am #833573

Taylor Gang Mike
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MCW – Shaun Livingston
Noel – Skinnier Tyson Chandler
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 4:32am #833465

Taylor Gang Mike
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MCW – Shaun Livingston
Noel – Skinnier Tyson Chandler
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 5:31am #833579

benny15
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i like the marco jaric comparison. at first i was thinking alvin williams of toronto, but that point used his strength advantage over other point guards apart from his size. but he was good tall point guard who dint have a great outside shot but knew how to run a team offensively and be a solid defensively player.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 5:31am #833471

benny15
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i like the marco jaric comparison. at first i was thinking alvin williams of toronto, but that point used his strength advantage over other point guards apart from his size. but he was good tall point guard who dint have a great outside shot but knew how to run a team offensively and be a solid defensively player.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 8:25am #833621

apb540
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I’ve had a terribly tough time coming up with solid comparisons for both of these players. The skinnier Tyson Chandler comparison for Noel makes sense to me. I can’t even come up with a good one for MCW though and none of the ones I saw suggested on here really stuck out to me. Maybe the non-black hole, slightly shorter, natural Point Guard version of Tyreke Evans? Idk just throwing it out there.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 8:25am #833514

apb540
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I’ve had a terribly tough time coming up with solid comparisons for both of these players. The skinnier Tyson Chandler comparison for Noel makes sense to me. I can’t even come up with a good one for MCW though and none of the ones I saw suggested on here really stuck out to me. Maybe the non-black hole, slightly shorter, natural Point Guard version of Tyreke Evans? Idk just throwing it out there.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 8:56am #833542

sportspolymath
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MCW is like Michael Ray Richardson and Noel is like a sober Roy Tarpley.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 8:56am #833649

sportspolymath
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MCW is like Michael Ray Richardson and Noel is like a sober Roy Tarpley.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:55am #833568

ich_danjel
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MCW => Brian Shaw, maybe a smaller version of jalen rose?
Noel => Keon Clark, skinnier + longer Kenyon Martin…Marcus Camby (skinnier) or maybe Tree Rollis (stats…)
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 9:55am #833675

ich_danjel
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MCW => Brian Shaw, maybe a smaller version of jalen rose?
Noel => Keon Clark, skinnier + longer Kenyon Martin…Marcus Camby (skinnier) or maybe Tree Rollis (stats…)
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834830

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834937

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834832

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834939

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834834

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2013 - 2:11pm #834941

Mr. 19134
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MCW is the next Penny Hardaway.
Noels athleticism makes him an extremely rare prospect. He’s quicker and much more explosive then Camby and Noah and believe it or not has more offensive potential then both. Even tho Camby and Noah were better shooters Noah is a much better finisher inside and plays way more aggressive with the ball. Noels has more offensive potential then people realize.
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