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  • #4059
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    Mr. Basketball
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    Do u agree. A future all star scoring 2 guard (who trust me is a good playmaker and defender as well) + an athletic freak of a big man.

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  • #152201
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I would say Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady might be closer to Kobe and Shaq, and they still have not gotten the job done. I think Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon are the start of something, but their is still a ways to go. I do not see Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin becoming top 10, or in my opinion of Kobe and Shaq top 5 players of all time, much less in the near future. They are good enough to maybe lead the Clips to first round losses though, so I think the Tracy/Yao thing is more of an apt comparison (Tracy McGrady has still not gotten out of round one).

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  • #152202
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    deuce4off

    I won’t say you’re biased, I’ll just say your basketball IQ is nonexistent… I guess O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay are the next Jordan/Pippen?

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  • #152205
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    rvirsal
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    blake and gordon are the next blake and gordon.

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  • #152206
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    Mr. Basketball
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    in terms of their style of play. gordon is going to be an all-star sg. griffin will be an all-star big man. Griffin is a dominant big like shaq due to his freakish athleticism. Yao is nothing like shaq. im not saying they will be as good as them at all. Im saying they are the most alike combo to shaq and kobe since shaq and kobe were broken up. Name me a more similar combo?

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  • #152209
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    knicksfreak
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    Do you really think Gordon is going to beat out CP3, D-Will, Kobe, Roy, Parker, Nash, Durant, Chauncey, Mayo, Ellis, Kidd, Foye, J.R., J-Rich for the all-star team?

    Thats 14 clearly better guards in the west with even more that you could make an arguement for. If anything he’d be lucky to make 1 or 2 all-star teams. Griffin probably wont even be a perennial all-star.

    That duo isnt even in a conversation of Shaq and Kobe.

    The closest since Shaq and Kobe has been Shaq and Wade.

    Right now these duos are better;

    Roy + Aldridge

    Yao + Tracy

    Gasol + Kobe

    Shaq + J-Rich

    Duncan + Ginobili

    Lopez + Carter

    Horford + Johnson

    Courtney Lee is better than Gordon so put Howard + Lee

    Those are just Big man 2-guard combos

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  • #152212
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    eprizzle14
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    I like Lee, but better then Gordon? c’mon

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  • #152214
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    johneco
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    I agree with knicksfreak and others. This claim is insane and one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a while.
    Shaq and Kobe were the best guard in the whole NBA, combined with the best big man in the whole NBA (and of the last 30 years or more). Each are over 10 time all-stars.
    Gordon and Griffin cannot remotely compare.
    Gordon will be lucky if he ever makes one all-star game. Griffin is no lock either, although his chances are better.
    I can think of 20 better combos since Shaq/Kobe.
    Shaq and Wade
    Gasol and Kobe
    Bynum and Kobe
    Amare and Joe Johnson
    Amare and Nash (if PGs are allowed)
    etc, tthis is boring.

    Basically why don’t you wait until your combo is at least better than average before comparing them to one of the best combos of all time?

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  • #152216
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    Evan_Milberg
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    Get back to me when Griffin/Gordon win three championships together and each solidify their place in history as bonafide hall-of-famers and two of the best ever at their respective positions.

    You freakin kidding me?

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  • #152220
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    Dgtool2
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    Eric Gordon had played one year. Griffin hasn’t even played. Together they haven’t even played and already you’re comparing them to Shaq and Kobe? Wow.

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  • #152228
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    Masrock

    Yea, we get it. You’re excited about your favorite team winning the lottery. Now just calm the fu ck down about comparing two good young players to TWO OF THE BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME.

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  • #152232
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    bflaa2
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    I think theis duo could do something special both very young and should be there for a while. With Roy, Aldridge, Oden and other young [players they could win a couple rings too

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  • #152233
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    Pringles
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    Joke topic?

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    • #152352
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      MassWarrior
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      Absolute joke. Not a chance that Griffin and Gordon can compare to Kobe and Shaq. Eric Gordon is too small to be the dynamic player kobe is. Griffin just got measured at 6’10 and Shaq is 7’1. Also, Shag is about 4 times the size of Griffin muscularly. Griffin will be very good, but how can you compare him to one of the most dominant players ever and certainly the most dominant player of his era. Comparing Gordon to Kobe is just flat out stupid. Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan ever and Gordon is a combo guard that can’t defend like Kobe. Gordon and Griffin is more similar to Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudamire back in Johnson’s Suns days. Closest to Kobe and Shaq was DWade and Shaq. No one can really compare to that duo tho. Hopefully the Magic can get someone like DWade or a dominant wing player to go along with Dwight Howard. THAT would be the closest to Kobe/Shaq. BTW, the Clippers will suck forever so no need to make anymore dumb comparisons alright?

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  • #152234
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    tuck243
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    Just a freaking IDIOT… You can’t be serious… Im not going to go into this because my basketball colleagues already did…..

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  • #152244
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    michaelds911
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    I don’t know about Shaq and Kobe, but I see what you’re getting at. And to the guy who said Courtney Lee is better E.G……Quit writing about basketball. Gordon will be the 3rd or 4th best SG this year….Mark my words, but I have to see What B.Griff can do before the duo can warrant Shaq & Kobe comparisons.

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  • #152245
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    michaelds911
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    I don’t know about Shaq and Kobe, but I see what you’re getting at. And to the guy who said Courtney Lee and Jason Richardson is better E.G……Quit writing about basketball. Gordon will be the 4th best SG this year….Mark my words, but I have to see What B.Griff can do before the duo can warrant Shaq & Kobe comparisons.

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    • #152247
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      johneco
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      Gordon 4th best this year?
      I find that extremely unlikely (although far less insane than the Kobe Shaq comparison).

      Let’s see:
      Kobe
      Wade
      B. Roy
      are all way better, so are you slotting him next?

      But what about:
      Manu
      Rip Hamilton
      Vince Carter
      Kevin Martin
      Joe Johnson
      Michael Redd
      Iguodala
      Ben Gordon
      Ray Allen
      JR Smith
      Jason Richardson?

      I think they’re all better than him right now, and it’s unlikely he passes more than a couple of them next year. Can you really say with a straight face that he will pass everyone on this list next year?

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  • #152253
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    sheltwon3
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    I will say this when Eric Gordon gets more consistent, will be better than more than half of the people on that list.

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  • #152256
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    michaelds911
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    That’s exactly who I have above him, but the only guys I think may have a better year is Vince, and maybe Joe Johnson. The other guys either: get injured too much, are getting old, or just aren’t better than E.Gordon. I see him having a season similar to what Granger had this year, and he has all the tools to do so. He has an extremely explosive first step, has a silky smooth J, and underrated PG and defensive skills. Now he is going to have an inside presence in Griffin, that will open his game up even more.

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  • #152259
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    leave it too a clipper fan to say something like that..i guess the way the clipper gm’s think are now tricling down to the fans

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  • #152261
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    michaelds911
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    I’m not a Clipper’s fan by any means (I’ve stated before that I love the Cavs and Mavs). I just simply have a man crush on Eric Gordon’s game lol. I don’t see why everybody else isn’t high on this guy.

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  • #152267
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    Csharp3410
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    You have to be kidding me….there are about 15 better tamdens out there then those 2.

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  • #152269
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    michaelds911
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    Please name them Csharp3410. I would love your insight.

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  • #152274
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    Hale
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    Embarassing topic.

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  • #152285
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    ninja12
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    I will say that if Eric Gordon were as tall as Kobe Bryant and Griffin were as tall as Shaq, this MIGHT be a legitimate conversation. As it is, neither are even close in height to Kobe and Shaq, and they are not even close to Kobe and Shaq as a tandem.

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  • #152296
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    Mr. Basketball
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    wow guys. I’m saying that in like 5 years, they could be like them in terms of style of play, not in chamionships, all-star appearances, or stats. Also, as i have explained many times gordon>mayo. link to that argument: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/5306

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  • #152297
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    Stanford hoops
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    i was talking about clippers..bust as far as gordan being the 3rd or 4th best next year i dont think so..he wont be better than mayo,kobe,monte,..he will be a better scorer than courtney lee but not the better player….ben gordan..tmac if hes not hurt….jason richardson brandon roy ray allen joe johnson d wade micheal redd………and as far as tandams every tandam right now since those two havent played together yet…im gonna be very interested in there summer leauge though…the clippers alreadt said gordan blake al and jordan will be there for sure

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  • #152303
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    Mr. Basketball
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    summer league: not al, mike taylor. O and possibly baby shaq from greece. that guy is a guy to watch for.

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  • #152310
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    Stanford hoops
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    the clippers gm already said al is playing in it.im guessing mike taylor will be also..baby shaq from greece is wayyyyyy out of shape to play ..hes more suited for the euro game and spot minutes

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  • #152323
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    deuce4off

    Naming a wing/guard alongside a big.

    Parker/Duncan
    Ginobili/Duncan
    Allen/Garnett
    Pierce/Garnett
    James/Ilgauskas
    Johnson/Horford
    Terry/Nowitzki
    Artest/Ming
    McGrady/Ming
    Bryant/Gasol
    Wade/Oneal
    Roy/Aldridge
    Paul/West
    Turkoglu/Howard
    Lewis/Howard
    Nash/Stoudemire
    Richardson/Stoudemire
    Williams/Boozer
    Calderon/Bosh
    Igoudala/Brand

    20 for ya, i forget any??? maybe carter/lopez, harris/lopez? up to 22

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  • #152328
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    QHaynes123

    READ MOCK DRAFT 3.1

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  • #152330
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    Wälse
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    this comparison is nuts even though i really love both guys. totally unfathomable.

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  • #152332
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    Mr. Basketball
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    deuce: its not how good they are. its style of play! igoudala brand. r u kidding me?

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  • #152341
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    mamadou
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    The closest thing to kobe-shaq is dalembert-willie green, maybe chandler and mo pete, no doubt about it.
    No joke, eric gordon is for real, as a sophomore, it will be 20 pts a game, 180 3pters…great 7th pick, great drafts 3 str8 years for the clipps…

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  • #152353
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    Mr. Basketball
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    dude, this is ur first post on here. shut the **** up!

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  • #152361
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    tuck243
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    He’s right though…..

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  • #152368
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    michaelds911
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    They were supposed to be shooting guards and a big man duece, not random tandems lol (And you lose all credibility for putting Iggy and Brand, we seen how well they meshed together.) I agree with you guys that they will never be Shaq and Kobe, but Eric Gordon is about to explode this year.

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  • #152369
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    Mr. Basketball
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    not with that “the clippers will suck forever so no need to make anymore dumb comparisons alright?” ****….

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  • #152370
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    Hale
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    Dude it’s a dumb post, move on. The clippers are not a good team, just be happy you have Griffin aight. Be happy you have a good nucleus right now with Gordon, Griffin, Taylor and my man DeAndre Jordan. In a few years your team can be good, but lets not go make outrageous comparisons.

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  • #152379
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    Stanford hoops
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    exactly..most of the clipper fans cant just be happy with the number one pick..some of them have just lost there mind by the shaq kobe comparisons or they will be better then the lakers in 3 years or my favorite from yester ..the clippers will challange for the nba championship and sweep the lakers during the season…yes the clippers have potential and we all hope they will be better for there fans sake at least ( but im not holding my breath..not cuz of the talent but because of the organization) its better to compare eric to ben gordan if anything…but that shaq/kobe comparision is just ludacris

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  • #152380
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    michaelds911
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    I don’t want to hear that Eric Gordon is Ben Gordon junk.

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  • #152383
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    Stanford hoops
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    then put youre hands over youre ears since even the gms and writers agree thats who hes comparable too at this point in his career because hes strickly a scorer right now…pretty much there isnt anyone else to compare him to

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  • #152385
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    michaelds911
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    I could care less what GM’s and writers think. 75% of them are brain dead anyway lol.

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  • #152387
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    Stanford hoops
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    lol..that is tru since most of them said darko would be good…i just cant think of any one else who is around erics height wit the same game…dont get me wrong though i do believe he will be better then ben but if you can come up wit a more compareable player go ahead…and if i could compare him to any player id have to say mitch richmond

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  • #152389
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    Jackyboy6
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    Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin is a great duo, but they are not Shaq and Kobe. First of all, Blake Griffin isnt even close to being what shaq was and eric gordon is not quite as good as a kobe was. Good observation though.

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  • #152399
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    Stanford hoops
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    could be a great duo..i just cant say they are great yet without even playing with each other

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  • #152441
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    Mr. Basketball
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    huestis: he is not strictly a scorer.

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  • #152457
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    deuce4off

    Iggy and Brand would f*ckin demolish Gordon and Griffin….are YOU kidding me ya fool

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  • #152458
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    Mr. Basketball
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    brand sucks. gordon will be better than igoudala for sure in a year.

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  • #152461
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    butidonthavemoney

    CJ Miles and Kosta Koufos. You’re all stupid.

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    • #153238
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      Flash_Scout_5
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      Are u stupid comparing Blake Griffin to Shaq and Eric Gordan To Kobe No Way. They will probably be a great team but nothing like that.

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  • #152468
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    lets see..ereic averages 2rebs and 2.8ast 1steal 2 turnovers a game..38percent 3poit shooting and 44 percent fg shooting…so what else is eric gordan exactly right now if hes not just a scorer..please tell us something every one else seems to not no…and no not a lock downdefender…check out each game he played on nba.com and youll see that most of the players he guraded either got there average or went over and shot there season fg percentage or over and didnt turn the ball over anymore then they usually do

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  • #152470
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    Mr. Basketball
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    its called watching all 82 clipper games buddy…

    read this to see my arguments: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/5306

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  • #153133
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    You went a bit far with that comparison bro. Gordon my fave player i don’t even think that. He and Griffin have the potential to be a Williams/Boozer or something along those lines. Those two can definitley carry Clippers to the play-offs but they would need a lot more help than what Kobe and Shaq did to get even one ring.

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  • #153135
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    Mr. Basketball
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    r u a clipper fan? Also, they will have al thornton, and they will have imo a revitalized baron davis along with in a year a breakout deandre jordan so they should have a nice squad to contend in about two years. i don’t agree with the williams boozer thing bcuz williams is more of a playmaker than gordon and griffin is more athletic than boozer.

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  • #153186
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    cant compare them to utah cuz gordan isnt a pg by any strech of the imagination ..as far as deandre jordan..everyone hs been waiting for a breakout year for ever from this guy..hes a athletic dunker and thats pretty much it..he has no post moves and doesnt have the drive to be a great player and the clippers are the clippers..you can hope and dream that htye will do this or they will do that but untill they show and prove they will still be the sorry clippers. so all you clippers fans can continue to hope and wish every year about what you hope they will be one day…and once again its ludacris to even think that gordan and blake are anything close to shaq and kobe..lol thats just funny and you are right..you are biased

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  • #153196
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    butidonthavemoney

    Every player who is around 6’3″ gets compared to Deron Williams. Beno Udrih, Monta Ellis, Shannon Brown, CJ Watson, Rodney Stucky, Marcus Williams. Hometown broadcasts are ridiculous.

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  • #153251
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    dont even argue…some fans when talking about there team cant see things as reality …a couple clippers fans say that they have 5 all stars right now…lol

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  • #153756
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    Whoa. While I think Griffin and Gordon will be good players, there is know way they will even come close to Kobe and Shaq. I don’t like Shaq or Kobe, but I will admit they are two of the best players of all time. Griffin is not going to dominate the way Shaq did, and Gordan does not have overall skillset of Kobe.

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  • #153796
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    clipperfan559
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    Griffin will be better than brand due to his injuries which will slow him down and cannot keep him up to pace with griffin, and Gordon can hold his own against Iguodala and eric is a better shooter.

    But dude do not put gordon and griffin in the same sentence as shaq and kobe. They havent even played a game together or even made it to the playoffs, nor have we even drafted blake yet so its not a for sure thing.

    The Gordon and Blake Duo will present a inside – outside threat similar to Roy and Aldridge tandem. if you were to double blake, gordon’s open with his stroke and vice versa.

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  • #153799
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    QHaynes123

    To be honest…this may be a great pairing in the L by year 3. I dont know who to compare them to.

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  • #153848
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    i would say deron and boozer except gordan isnt a point guard..another one i would liken them two is gordan was once again a pg is gary payton shawn kemp…key word though is potentially

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