[valentine]

"The Los Angeles Lakers considered drafting Latvian forward Kristaps Porzingis this summer. They worked him out and came away impressed. "I liked him because he’s athletic, can shoot the ball. From what we saw, he was able to shoot it from 3-point range pretty easily," Lakers coach Byron Scott said following practice at John Jay College here Saturday. "He’s a young kid that in the workouts that we had really didn’t show any fear." There was a concern, though. "[We] just thought it was going to take him some time [to develop]," Scott said. "Obviously, we were probably a little wrong about that because he’s playing pretty well right now," Scott said. The Lakers will face Porzingis and the Knicks on Sunday at Madison Square Garden. "Man, he’s a good player," Scott said of Porzingis. "This kid has a hunger to be really good. The comparisons to Dirk Nowitzki because of his size and the way they can shoot the ball is pretty accurate, especially when Dirk first came on the scene. The kid is going to be really special one day.""

[T Rex]

 Rough day for the Lakers today, playing against Porzingis.

Ouch.

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Rough day for the Lakers today, playing against Porzingis.

Ouch.

 

 

 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 So if they thought that he was going to take some time to develop why didn’t they take the most nba ready prospect. They also said that Jahlil had a good workout for them so I would like to hear their reasoning for not taking him also…

[T Rex]

 Lakers’ brass (or is it aluminum?) allowed team need to completely distort their decision.

They needed a superstar pass first point guard so much that they convinced themselves Russell was that guy, even though he wasn’t.

They were also way too confident that Randle was some superstar PF.

Just amateurs being amateurs. They should have hired Phil Jackson.

 

 

 

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 And the celtics should’ve taken Randle over Smart

[T Rex]

 Right, because defense doesn’t matter. Lakers don’t need it.

 

 

[T Rex]

 Right, because defense doesn’t matter. Lakers don’t need it.

 

 

[Mad MaxParticipant]

 And the celtics should’ve taken Randle over Smart

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Yeah, um… if Randle figures out that jumpshot he will be a star. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Yeah, um… if Randle figures out that jumpshot he will be a star. 

[T Rex]

 Lakers’ brass (or is it aluminum?) allowed team need to completely distort their decision.

They needed a superstar pass first point guard so much that they convinced themselves Russell was that guy, even though he wasn’t.

They were also way too confident that Randle was some superstar PF.

Just amateurs being amateurs. They should have hired Phil Jackson.

 

 

 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 So if they thought that he was going to take some time to develop why didn’t they take the most nba ready prospect. They also said that Jahlil had a good workout for them so I would like to hear their reasoning for not taking him also…

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

I don’t think 5 games is enough of a sample size to determine anything. I like porzingis too but I’m not giving up on Russell yet. 

[Rip256]

 Ive seen 3 of his games and thats all I need to know he’s the real deal.

Byrons Scotts analysis of him not being ready is dead wrong.

KAT has also been balling so Im not prepared to say he should have been the #1 pick…

But use of the word ‘Whiff’ couldnt be more appropriate.

 

 

 

[Rip256]

 Ive seen 3 of his games and thats all I need to know he’s the real deal.

Byrons Scotts analysis of him not being ready is dead wrong.

KAT has also been balling so Im not prepared to say he should have been the #1 pick…

But use of the word ‘Whiff’ couldnt be more appropriate.

 

 

 

[Kwame33Participant]

 Sans the first few games, you could tell from the start of summer league that Russell wasn’t going to be the contributer the Lakers had hoped…

[Kwame33Participant]

 Sans the first few games, you could tell from the start of summer league that Russell wasn’t going to be the contributer the Lakers had hoped…

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

I don’t think 5 games is enough of a sample size to determine anything. I like porzingis too but I’m not giving up on Russell yet. 

[Arc12345Participant]

Not giving up on Russell, but barring some extraordinary change, they clearly made a mistake passing on Porzingis and Okafor. 

Rusell’s lack of athletic ability is really troubling. It was a high risk pick. Okafor was the sure thing, and they lost out. I specifically remember Jalen Rose demanding the Lakers take Russell on draft night and was so puzzled…it’s not like he was a clear number 2 like Rose was making it sound.

Tough break for the Lakers.

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I am shocked at how hard it is for him to get to the rack. 

[T Rex]

 You shouldn’t be shocked. I’ve been telling you all about it since late May.

You must have been one of those many guys saying Russell had Harden athleticism, lol

 

 

[T Rex]

 You shouldn’t be shocked. I’ve been telling you all about it since late May.

You must have been one of those many guys saying Russell had Harden athleticism, lol

 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I am shocked at how hard it is for him to get to the rack. 

[Arc12345Participant]

Not giving up on Russell, but barring some extraordinary change, they clearly made a mistake passing on Porzingis and Okafor. 

Rusell’s lack of athletic ability is really troubling. It was a high risk pick. Okafor was the sure thing, and they lost out. I specifically remember Jalen Rose demanding the Lakers take Russell on draft night and was so puzzled…it’s not like he was a clear number 2 like Rose was making it sound.

Tough break for the Lakers.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Scott talks way too much.  What’s the saying.  Loose lips sink ships?? 

Another troubling part of his statement is the indication that he had some influence on the pick.  Who lets a stop gap coach have a say in a decision like that. 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 That’s a double edged sword. Scott went with the hardest workers. That’s why they got Randle and Clarkson last year (great picks) and that’s why they got Russell, Nance, A.Brown. Nance and Brown look like solid picks with great fundamentals and work ethic. The jury is out on Russell. 

One thing that would help Russell is shooting more. But Kobe, Clarkson, and Randle constantly need the ball on the first unit and the 2nd unit has Nick Young and Lou Williams. Where do you get your shot in? Russell keeps talking about finding his niche on the team (passing), but dude can shoot and needs to shoot to feel better about himself. 

Kobe played his fewest minutes last game and Russell had his best game (they also won). Though odd side note: they really like each other and continuously pass to each other. 

[T Rex]

 Yeah, Scott went with the hardest workers, except for THE NUMBER TWO PICK

 

 

[T Rex]

 Yeah, Scott went with the hardest workers, except for THE NUMBER TWO PICK

 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 That’s a double edged sword. Scott went with the hardest workers. That’s why they got Randle and Clarkson last year (great picks) and that’s why they got Russell, Nance, A.Brown. Nance and Brown look like solid picks with great fundamentals and work ethic. The jury is out on Russell. 

One thing that would help Russell is shooting more. But Kobe, Clarkson, and Randle constantly need the ball on the first unit and the 2nd unit has Nick Young and Lou Williams. Where do you get your shot in? Russell keeps talking about finding his niche on the team (passing), but dude can shoot and needs to shoot to feel better about himself. 

Kobe played his fewest minutes last game and Russell had his best game (they also won). Though odd side note: they really like each other and continuously pass to each other. 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

Scott talks way too much.  What’s the saying.  Loose lips sink ships?? 

Another troubling part of his statement is the indication that he had some influence on the pick.  Who lets a stop gap coach have a say in a decision like that. 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 long term… remember w/ Melo no teams are keying on "Zingy" & to his credit he is taking advantage…. I think they will always regret passing on Okafor though the guy is scoring 20 ppg on only about 12 shots per game & he’s got endless post moves… But Russell just had a really good game & long term I think the Lakers got themselves a good player….

[T Rex]

 Lakers would be winning games if they had Porzingis. He works with either Randle or Hibbert on the court with him. He would cover up Randle’s weak defense, while spacing the floor for Randle to get more points inside. And KP spacing the floor would also get Clarkson and Lou Williams and Nick Young lots of buckets at the rim.

And KP and Hibbert would be a dominant twin towers defensive duo.

Fact is Buss and Scott are terrible basketball minds, and they were both more concerned with saving their jobs this year than they were about the long term, which ended up screwing them over in the short term as well.

But since Phil Jackson made the right pick, his job is safe for the next 5+ years.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Lakers would be winning games if they had Porzingis. He works with either Randle or Hibbert on the court with him. He would cover up Randle’s weak defense, while spacing the floor for Randle to get more points inside. And KP spacing the floor would also get Clarkson and Lou Williams and Nick Young lots of buckets at the rim.

And KP and Hibbert would be a dominant twin towers defensive duo.

Fact is Buss and Scott are terrible basketball minds, and they were both more concerned with saving their jobs this year than they were about the long term, which ended up screwing them over in the short term as well.

But since Phil Jackson made the right pick, his job is safe for the next 5+ years.

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 long term… remember w/ Melo no teams are keying on "Zingy" & to his credit he is taking advantage…. I think they will always regret passing on Okafor though the guy is scoring 20 ppg on only about 12 shots per game & he’s got endless post moves… But Russell just had a really good game & long term I think the Lakers got themselves a good player….

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Lakers were always said to value big men so I was surprised they passedon The Oak. He was considered NBA ready and if a powerhouse team like the Lakers gets a legit 20/10 big man. I’d figure they could build around him. Maybe as they took a big last year in Randle they didn’t want to take another.

Russell has looked useful but still very much a year in progress. If Byron does see him as the long term PG then should maybe give him the keys to the team and let him learn on the job.

Byron Scott will soon be under pressure from the Lakers fans unless the ownership see him as a long term guy to rebuild the team. He only won 21 games last year and another poor start this year could cause the Buss family to consider a change especially with someone like Thibs available.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Lakers were always said to value big men so I was surprised they passedon The Oak. He was considered NBA ready and if a powerhouse team like the Lakers gets a legit 20/10 big man. I’d figure they could build around him. Maybe as they took a big last year in Randle they didn’t want to take another.

Russell has looked useful but still very much a year in progress. If Byron does see him as the long term PG then should maybe give him the keys to the team and let him learn on the job.

Byron Scott will soon be under pressure from the Lakers fans unless the ownership see him as a long term guy to rebuild the team. He only won 21 games last year and another poor start this year could cause the Buss family to consider a change especially with someone like Thibs available.

 

 

[BallBeenLifeParticipant]

The Lakers were set on taking Okafor at #2 before draft night.. But LA thought they had a good shot at landing Aldridge since they were set to schedule a second meeting him before that.. So I don’t blame the Lakers for taking Russell since that would of made sense (if LA would’ve landed him) and he does seem like the obvious player to take the torch once Kobe hangs it up. 

[Kwame33Participant]

"he does seem like the obvious player to take the torch once Kobe hangs it up"…explain yourself.

[Kwame33Participant]

"he does seem like the obvious player to take the torch once Kobe hangs it up"…explain yourself.

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

how are you going to Pass up on big men with that kind of talent for the "possibility" with no clear inclination of signing Aldridge or trading for DMC.  

Woudln’t you rather take the sure thing.  Also, why are they so hesitant to rebuild?  Whats the need to win-now in a stacked West.  I’m sorry but Hibbert, Lou Williams, and the return of an aged Kobe and Randle who is nothing special, is not a team yo uare going to win-now with in the NBA. May as well have gone all in on the rebuild, gotten the young player and had a better chance of keeping your pick and not giving it to Philly.

They assumed because of his passing and shooting, he’d be a Steph Curry type, but clearly, he isn’t and nobody else in the league is either.  

He could be, he has all the tools, but he just won’t be Steph Curry.  They bought into the fad of a guard-dominant league, so we’ll see what he is capable of.  He doesn’t seem to be a generational guy that is going to attract other star players to want to come to play with him.  

It doesn’t matter, even after attempting to be competetive (i guess), they find themselves in a great position to keep their top-3 pick and their rebuild will continue.  

 

    

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

how are you going to Pass up on big men with that kind of talent for the "possibility" with no clear inclination of signing Aldridge or trading for DMC.  

Woudln’t you rather take the sure thing.  Also, why are they so hesitant to rebuild?  Whats the need to win-now in a stacked West.  I’m sorry but Hibbert, Lou Williams, and the return of an aged Kobe and Randle who is nothing special, is not a team yo uare going to win-now with in the NBA. May as well have gone all in on the rebuild, gotten the young player and had a better chance of keeping your pick and not giving it to Philly.

They assumed because of his passing and shooting, he’d be a Steph Curry type, but clearly, he isn’t and nobody else in the league is either.  

He could be, he has all the tools, but he just won’t be Steph Curry.  They bought into the fad of a guard-dominant league, so we’ll see what he is capable of.  He doesn’t seem to be a generational guy that is going to attract other star players to want to come to play with him.  

It doesn’t matter, even after attempting to be competetive (i guess), they find themselves in a great position to keep their top-3 pick and their rebuild will continue.  

 

    

  

[BallBeenLifeParticipant]

The Lakers were set on taking Okafor at #2 before draft night.. But LA thought they had a good shot at landing Aldridge since they were set to schedule a second meeting him before that.. So I don’t blame the Lakers for taking Russell since that would of made sense (if LA would’ve landed him) and he does seem like the obvious player to take the torch once Kobe hangs it up. 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

By the end of the season  I hope Byron Scott goes through the entire lottery and explains why the Lakers picked Russel over them. I don’t understand why he feels required to give these explinations but I love it. 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

By the end of the season  I hope Byron Scott goes through the entire lottery and explains why the Lakers picked Russel over them. I don’t understand why he feels required to give these explinations but I love it. 

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

 D’Angelo russell is the biggest bust since kristaps porzingus 

 

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

 D’Angelo russell is the biggest bust since kristaps porzingus 

 

[T Rex]

The entire draft community of opinionators was a huge bust this year.

Epic groupthink failure.

The lemmings went running off the D-Russell cliff and burned the Porzingis Prophet at the stake.

I’ve got the negs to prove it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Rip256]

LA was caught in a swag-recession at the time.

After drafting Julius Blandle, the LA community was fiending hard for a little more swag. They got plenty in the form of D’Russell.

The fact hes not very good was only a secondary consideration.

Ironically, Porzingis actually has legit swag too. So does Mario Herzonja, who was also a better prospect.

So they didn’t even nail their primary objective – maximum swag.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

I found a photo of the Lakers’ draft day War Room

ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/19/0-w5j1d4ei-1080×608.jpg

 

[T Rex]

I found a photo of the Lakers’ draft day War Room

ll-media.tmz.com/2015/08/19/0-w5j1d4ei-1080×608.jpg

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

can’t poke a little fun at the Lakers…..all their fans are so quick to neg.  

If only they’d jump on their own players the same way, Jim Buss might be a little more accountable, they woudln’t allow an aging Kobe to sit in at meetings and discourage other players from wanting to sign there and watch him shoot jumpers.

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

can’t poke a little fun at the Lakers…..all their fans are so quick to neg.  

If only they’d jump on their own players the same way, Jim Buss might be a little more accountable, they woudln’t allow an aging Kobe to sit in at meetings and discourage other players from wanting to sign there and watch him shoot jumpers.

  

[Rip256]

LA was caught in a swag-recession at the time.

After drafting Julius Blandle, the LA community was fiending hard for a little more swag. They got plenty in the form of D’Russell.

The fact hes not very good was only a secondary consideration.

Ironically, Porzingis actually has legit swag too. So does Mario Herzonja, who was also a better prospect.

So they didn’t even nail their primary objective – maximum swag.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

The entire draft community of opinionators was a huge bust this year.

Epic groupthink failure.

The lemmings went running off the D-Russell cliff and burned the Porzingis Prophet at the stake.

I’ve got the negs to prove it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Tap892Participant]

 Yeah because we all know exactly how their careers will turn out less than two weeks into their rookie seasons

[T Rex]

I know about the same as I knew in May. You know more than you ever wanted to know about how wrong you were.

 

[T Rex]

I know about the same as I knew in May. You know more than you ever wanted to know about how wrong you were.

 

[Tap892Participant]

 Yeah because we all know exactly how their careers will turn out less than two weeks into their rookie seasons

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I remember when everyone was comparing Russell to Harden and I compared him to Greivis Vasquez I got like five negatives.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I remember when everyone was comparing Russell to Harden and I compared him to Greivis Vasquez I got like five negatives.

[Arc12345Participant]

 Honestly probably the best comparison I’ve read. Spot on. A left handed Vasquez.

[Arc12345Participant]

 Honestly probably the best comparison I’ve read. Spot on. A left handed Vasquez.

[ThepessimestParticipant]

 Truth is we don’t know much about him. I believe he’s playing in the wrong system for the wrong coach and with the wrong aging superstar. Kobe is taking 10 3pointers in 29 minutes of play. Byron is running a system that does not keep the ball in Russell’s hands which is how he is best. And Byron does not use pace and space principles of current NBA.

In other words, Mike D’Antoni would be the perfect coach for this roster but was fired because he was wrong blamed for everything that went wrong in LA.

So while I love other draft picks I think that most of them are in stable situations where they are being used and developed properly. D’Angelo to be is not. 

 

 

[ThepessimestParticipant]

 Truth is we don’t know much about him. I believe he’s playing in the wrong system for the wrong coach and with the wrong aging superstar. Kobe is taking 10 3pointers in 29 minutes of play. Byron is running a system that does not keep the ball in Russell’s hands which is how he is best. And Byron does not use pace and space principles of current NBA.

In other words, Mike D’Antoni would be the perfect coach for this roster but was fired because he was wrong blamed for everything that went wrong in LA.

So while I love other draft picks I think that most of them are in stable situations where they are being used and developed properly. D’Angelo to be is not. 

 

 

[T Rex]

 I watched Russell try his hardest to burst with his first step. It was like revving the engine while in neutral.

 

 

[T Rex]

 I watched Russell try his hardest to burst with his first step. It was like revving the engine while in neutral.

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Eddie Jordan running that offense in Philly….it was like slow motion basketball.

While I do agree they need to run more, I hate the D’Antoni system, it doesn’t win in the playoffs, but for this team, it might be whats best for its talents.  It’d be more entertaining, but I just hated that system.

Watching Nash come over and try to run it with Kobe was just hard to watch.  Kobe would never fit with that bs offense, he was way too good for that gimmick offense.  

But right now the Lakers are a gimmick team, so maybe a gimmick offense is best for them.  

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Eddie Jordan running that offense in Philly….it was like slow motion basketball.

While I do agree they need to run more, I hate the D’Antoni system, it doesn’t win in the playoffs, but for this team, it might be whats best for its talents.  It’d be more entertaining, but I just hated that system.

Watching Nash come over and try to run it with Kobe was just hard to watch.  Kobe would never fit with that bs offense, he was way too good for that gimmick offense.  

But right now the Lakers are a gimmick team, so maybe a gimmick offense is best for them.  

 

 

  

[ThepessimestParticipant]

 If you hate Mike D’s system then you hate much of the current NBA. The current offensively philosophy of positionless basketball was popularized and made to work at an extremely high level by the Phoenix Suns with Mike D and Steve Nash.

Shawn Marion at PF and Amar’e at Center with shooters surrounding them…middle and side ball screens with a bunch of actions on the weak side is a Mike D thing. In fact; the Warriors discussed that last year. Alvin Gentry who was the main cog in implementing the Warriors system is a Mike D guy.

Just a thought….

 

 

[ThepessimestParticipant]

 If you hate Mike D’s system then you hate much of the current NBA. The current offensively philosophy of positionless basketball was popularized and made to work at an extremely high level by the Phoenix Suns with Mike D and Steve Nash.

Shawn Marion at PF and Amar’e at Center with shooters surrounding them…middle and side ball screens with a bunch of actions on the weak side is a Mike D thing. In fact; the Warriors discussed that last year. Alvin Gentry who was the main cog in implementing the Warriors system is a Mike D guy.

Just a thought….

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

the Warriors play defense and have Iggy and Draymond.

I think the Warriors playing that system is not a testament to the system, but rather the talent on that team.  I mean you have to play to the strengths of your team, Curry and Klay Thompson woudln’t be able to play on those 90s Knicks teams.  

When you have prime-Steve Nash (who made D’Antoni), you have to play that way as well.  

So the system should optimize the talent on the team.   The Warriors are NOT the Lakers.  I mean, the Warriors have all-NBA defenders and all-NBA scorers playing together.  

The Lakers don’t have that, nobody on that team plays defense.  D’Antoni should get credit for having the foresight to insert that run-n-gun offense, but its a serious fallacy in thinking, if its thought D’Antoni’s system could get plugged anywhere.

What I’m saying is, they might win a couple more games, but I don’t like the perceived D’Antoni system because of the lack of hard-nosed defense.

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

the Warriors play defense and have Iggy and Draymond.

I think the Warriors playing that system is not a testament to the system, but rather the talent on that team.  I mean you have to play to the strengths of your team, Curry and Klay Thompson woudln’t be able to play on those 90s Knicks teams.  

When you have prime-Steve Nash (who made D’Antoni), you have to play that way as well.  

So the system should optimize the talent on the team.   The Warriors are NOT the Lakers.  I mean, the Warriors have all-NBA defenders and all-NBA scorers playing together.  

The Lakers don’t have that, nobody on that team plays defense.  D’Antoni should get credit for having the foresight to insert that run-n-gun offense, but its a serious fallacy in thinking, if its thought D’Antoni’s system could get plugged anywhere.

What I’m saying is, they might win a couple more games, but I don’t like the perceived D’Antoni system because of the lack of hard-nosed defense.

 

 

 

  

[r377Participant]

I still think D’Angelo Russell will develop into a good player. Most of us (including Phil Jackson) thought Zinga would take a bit of time to develop. He has started out better than most predicted….

[r377Participant]

I still think D’Angelo Russell will develop into a good player. Most of us (including Phil Jackson) thought Zinga would take a bit of time to develop. He has started out better than most predicted….

[European BasketballerParticipant]

 The NBA is racist against white European players, and also no matter believes that NCAA players are better than players in Europe.

Porzingis was just a slightly above average player in ACB of Spain and Eurocup (league below Euroleague level), yet he already has better numbers, play, performance by far in NBA.

I said this over and over here to people, Antetokounmpo came from being a role player in Greece 2nd division (like Greece’s D League) and was immediately rotation player in NBA.

Yet the NBA "experts" claimed Greece 2nd division was "equal to 8th grade basketball in USA". In reality, even 2nd divison of Greece is better than NCAA.

This whole "he needed time to develop" nonsense is just made up excuse BS to cover the fact NBA is racist against white European players and no matter what has no idea of the level of basketball in Europe.

Porzingis was not even a top 100 player in Europe last year. The point is, the level in Europe is many miles above anything in NCAA, but the racism against white players there and the arrogant belief that USA is so superior in all aspects of basketball is what makes these idiots think this crap about players like Porzingis and Antetokounmpo.

I explain this here over and over, and no one ever gets it through their heads, and every time I explain it, all the same racist and stereotypical BS is repeated by members of this forum, with all the same exact words and catch phrases that have been said by NBA announcers and execs for years. Meaning, every USA sports fan is conditioned to believe this absurd nonsense, and the coaches like Scott are much too stupid to ever grasp it’s all made up lies for the purpose of NBA marketing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

 The NBA is racist against white European players, and also no matter believes that NCAA players are better than players in Europe.

Porzingis was just a slightly above average player in ACB of Spain and Eurocup (league below Euroleague level), yet he already has better numbers, play, performance by far in NBA.

I said this over and over here to people, Antetokounmpo came from being a role player in Greece 2nd division (like Greece’s D League) and was immediately rotation player in NBA.

Yet the NBA "experts" claimed Greece 2nd division was "equal to 8th grade basketball in USA". In reality, even 2nd divison of Greece is better than NCAA.

This whole "he needed time to develop" nonsense is just made up excuse BS to cover the fact NBA is racist against white European players and no matter what has no idea of the level of basketball in Europe.

Porzingis was not even a top 100 player in Europe last year. The point is, the level in Europe is many miles above anything in NCAA, but the racism against white players there and the arrogant belief that USA is so superior in all aspects of basketball is what makes these idiots think this crap about players like Porzingis and Antetokounmpo.

I explain this here over and over, and no one ever gets it through their heads, and every time I explain it, all the same racist and stereotypical BS is repeated by members of this forum, with all the same exact words and catch phrases that have been said by NBA announcers and execs for years. Meaning, every USA sports fan is conditioned to believe this absurd nonsense, and the coaches like Scott are much too stupid to ever grasp it’s all made up lies for the purpose of NBA marketing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kwame33Participant]

 Show us the source that claimed Greece’s 2nd league was comparable to 8th grade basketball in the US…even if you do find it the author is easily identifiable as an idiot.

[Kwame33Participant]

 Show us the source that claimed Greece’s 2nd league was comparable to 8th grade basketball in the US…even if you do find it the author is easily identifiable as an idiot.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

 Bill Simmons said it. Fraschilla agreed it was worse than high school basketball in USA.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

 Bill Simmons said it. Fraschilla agreed it was worse than high school basketball in USA.

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