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Via Sam Amico of Fox Sports:

“Miami Heat big man Chris Bosh is seeking a contract that will pay him $90 million over five years, a source dialed in with Bosh’s thinking told FOX Sports Ohio on Wednesday. Bosh is negotiating with the Heat, but no deal is done yet, the source said.”

there goes at least 7mil of the supposed 12mil to spend, now will Wade want more than 11mil as well?

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 90 mil for a soft and charmin jump-shooting 6-11 guy who was never an elite player in the first place?  Anybody who pays that kind of money to Chris Bosh for his basketball services is nuts…

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 90 mil for a soft and charmin jump-shooting 6-11 guy who was never an elite player in the first place?  Anybody who pays that kind of money to Chris Bosh for his basketball services is nuts…

[bobbybParticipant]

The "Ru-Paul" of bigman has been a huge part of Lebron’s success.  Yes Lebron will be elite no matter where he goes, but his style of play relies on the defense being stretched out by shooters on ther perimeter. Bosh is a max player and I wouldnt take a dime less if I were him.

[bobbybParticipant]

The "Ru-Paul" of bigman has been a huge part of Lebron’s success.  Yes Lebron will be elite no matter where he goes, but his style of play relies on the defense being stretched out by shooters on ther perimeter. Bosh is a max player and I wouldnt take a dime less if I were him.

[thricethefunParticipant]

I call bs on this. The writer who leaked this, Sam Amico, is a Cleveland Sports writer he’s probably just spewing bs to attempt to stir up controversy for the Heat.

[thricethefunParticipant]

I call bs on this. The writer who leaked this, Sam Amico, is a Cleveland Sports writer he’s probably just spewing bs to attempt to stir up controversy for the Heat.

[xJumpManxParticipant]

I have more faith in this than what Windhorst says. He has been wrong about msot things and people still isten to him its amazing. Irving wants out, James is not leaving Cleveland I could go on and on.

[xJumpManxParticipant]

I have more faith in this than what Windhorst says. He has been wrong about msot things and people still isten to him its amazing. Irving wants out, James is not leaving Cleveland I could go on and on.

[thricethefunParticipant]

That is true. Windhorst seems to have a personal vendetta against Cleveland for some reason.

[thricethefunParticipant]

That is true. Windhorst seems to have a personal vendetta against Cleveland for some reason.

[wrectorParticipant]

As much as I don’t care for Sam Amico, the dude would never try to stir controversy. He checks and double checks all rumors with his sources, and is a pretty trustworthy source of inside knowledge.

[wrectorParticipant]

As much as I don’t care for Sam Amico, the dude would never try to stir controversy. He checks and double checks all rumors with his sources, and is a pretty trustworthy source of inside knowledge.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

At the current going rate can you blame him? Gortat has never even made an all star game and just got what, 60 million guaranteed over 5. These owners and GMs have changed the market with some of these absurd deals that they have already presented. Players AND agents are going to take advantage of it. If I’m one of these guys and all I care about is money I am signing a deal ASAP though before the money starts to get low.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

At the current going rate can you blame him? Gortat has never even made an all star game and just got what, 60 million guaranteed over 5. These owners and GMs have changed the market with some of these absurd deals that they have already presented. Players AND agents are going to take advantage of it. If I’m one of these guys and all I care about is money I am signing a deal ASAP though before the money starts to get low.

[FritzParticipant]

 I may be in the minority and biased as a Bulls fan, but is Chris Bosh really a better player than Taj Gibson? Taj Gibson is becoming a beast on offense and has kept opposing big men to the lowest fg percentage in the league. 

I definitely would much rather have Taj on his salary than pay that for Bosh, and might even take Taj as a better player overall in the NBA next year. Bosh really needs to go back to his Toronto days and get off the perimeter and back to posting up in the paint. Paying 90 million for Bosh would be a mistake. 

 

 

[FritzParticipant]

 I may be in the minority and biased as a Bulls fan, but is Chris Bosh really a better player than Taj Gibson? Taj Gibson is becoming a beast on offense and has kept opposing big men to the lowest fg percentage in the league. 

I definitely would much rather have Taj on his salary than pay that for Bosh, and might even take Taj as a better player overall in the NBA next year. Bosh really needs to go back to his Toronto days and get off the perimeter and back to posting up in the paint. Paying 90 million for Bosh would be a mistake. 

 

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Bosh is better, but not by much…  Offensively Bosh is superior.  He’s got a great face-up game, and at times can score down low.  The system Miami runs really doesn’t play to his strengths, as he is usually just spotting up for 3’s.  That isn’t his game, and I don’t understand why that’s how they use him.

 

Defensively Gibson is superior.  Much better shot blocker, on ball defender, and rebounder.

 

You have to say Bosh is better, he’s been a 23 and 10 guy before.  But it’s definitely close.  He gets lost in the ridiculous offense Miami runs.  But like you said, I’d much rather have Gibson at 8mil/yr vs Bosh at 18mil/yr.

 

 

 

 

[DCParticipant]

 They use Bosh like that to take the other team’s centre and rim protector away from the basket, freeing up James and Wade to attack.  I agree it’s a waste of Bosh’s talents and a role you would give to someone like Spencer Hawes (not suggesting).

Good to hear such praise for Gibson, I don’t get to see many Bulls games and hadn’t realised he had improved that much.

[DCParticipant]

 They use Bosh like that to take the other team’s centre and rim protector away from the basket, freeing up James and Wade to attack.  I agree it’s a waste of Bosh’s talents and a role you would give to someone like Spencer Hawes (not suggesting).

Good to hear such praise for Gibson, I don’t get to see many Bulls games and hadn’t realised he had improved that much.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Bosh is better, but not by much…  Offensively Bosh is superior.  He’s got a great face-up game, and at times can score down low.  The system Miami runs really doesn’t play to his strengths, as he is usually just spotting up for 3’s.  That isn’t his game, and I don’t understand why that’s how they use him.

 

Defensively Gibson is superior.  Much better shot blocker, on ball defender, and rebounder.

 

You have to say Bosh is better, he’s been a 23 and 10 guy before.  But it’s definitely close.  He gets lost in the ridiculous offense Miami runs.  But like you said, I’d much rather have Gibson at 8mil/yr vs Bosh at 18mil/yr.

 

 

 

 

[geothermalParticipant]

Bosh was the kind of player Taj was when he was still in Toronto, fearless and doesn’t mind getting bruised, he changed when he went to miami to adapt in the system spoelstra made, to be a strecht four so wade and lebron could go slash and dish out for an easy three.

The question is, is he still capable of that?

My answer for that is yes, with a different system he could still average 20 and 10 being the main guy, and pair him up with an athletic bic, ex. Chandler, could be a one hell of a frontcourt

 

[geothermalParticipant]

Bosh was the kind of player Taj was when he was still in Toronto, fearless and doesn’t mind getting bruised, he changed when he went to miami to adapt in the system spoelstra made, to be a strecht four so wade and lebron could go slash and dish out for an easy three.

The question is, is he still capable of that?

My answer for that is yes, with a different system he could still average 20 and 10 being the main guy, and pair him up with an athletic bic, ex. Chandler, could be a one hell of a frontcourt

 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 They gotta let bosh walk for 90 mill. Sign and trade to minny and get klove. 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

 They gotta let bosh walk for 90 mill. Sign and trade to minny and get klove. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 For an all star level big man that is probably the going rate, he took less money along with LeBron and D-Wade to create the big 3 and if it is a flat $18 million a year then it’s less than he made this season just gone.

[HitsterParticipant]

 For an all star level big man that is probably the going rate, he took less money along with LeBron and D-Wade to create the big 3 and if it is a flat $18 million a year then it’s less than he made this season just gone.

[hbomb3300Participant]

If the projected salaries are somewhat close and if one of the top free agents doesn’t want to take a pay cut then the Heat will be in serious trouble trying to find depth.  I think they were counting on other players considering Miami a prime destination like in the past, but there is too much money available out there to take major pay cuts to play there.

[hbomb3300Participant]

If the projected salaries are somewhat close and if one of the top free agents doesn’t want to take a pay cut then the Heat will be in serious trouble trying to find depth.  I think they were counting on other players considering Miami a prime destination like in the past, but there is too much money available out there to take major pay cuts to play there.

[nick5354Participant]

I dislike Chris Bosh as much as most people, however, let’s not forget he has been playing out of position for this Heat team. He is playing bloody Centre. He has taken a decreased role, less money and playing out of position for the past 4 years.

People are quick to forget he was a 24/11 guy in Toronto. To put it in perspective, only one player, K love was able to do it this year. LA and Griffin weren’t far off.

He is still a legit first option and he will play his natural position for most teams.

So if he goes to a team to be the first option and even 2nd and play PF he is worth 19 mil.

If he plays for the Heat in the same team, he is not worth it. you cannot take a decreased role and think to get 19 mil.

Give him some respect though.

[CanadianGMParticipant]

 There is always good and bad comparisons. Gortat got 5 yrs/60 million and Irving got 5 years/90 million. The problem with Bosh is he has been relegated to a supporting role and has seen players with less skill put up similar numbers. Even Channing Frye and Marqueef Morris are comparable players who space the floor and shoot the 3. If reports are true and D Wade is also asking for top dollar, Lebron should consider looking elsewhere when back from vacation. The Heat have peaked and are behind the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers and Rockets n the west. Yes they can.  still win the east but even Chicago and Washington are going to close that gap. 

Bosh probably gets 4 years 70 million tops on the open market and no way does Miami give him 5 years 90 as they know that might cost them Lebron. I see an unravelling in South Beach. 

[CanadianGMParticipant]

 There is always good and bad comparisons. Gortat got 5 yrs/60 million and Irving got 5 years/90 million. The problem with Bosh is he has been relegated to a supporting role and has seen players with less skill put up similar numbers. Even Channing Frye and Marqueef Morris are comparable players who space the floor and shoot the 3. If reports are true and D Wade is also asking for top dollar, Lebron should consider looking elsewhere when back from vacation. The Heat have peaked and are behind the Spurs, Thunder, Clippers and Rockets n the west. Yes they can.  still win the east but even Chicago and Washington are going to close that gap. 

Bosh probably gets 4 years 70 million tops on the open market and no way does Miami give him 5 years 90 as they know that might cost them Lebron. I see an unravelling in South Beach. 

[nick5354Participant]

I dislike Chris Bosh as much as most people, however, let’s not forget he has been playing out of position for this Heat team. He is playing bloody Centre. He has taken a decreased role, less money and playing out of position for the past 4 years.

People are quick to forget he was a 24/11 guy in Toronto. To put it in perspective, only one player, K love was able to do it this year. LA and Griffin weren’t far off.

He is still a legit first option and he will play his natural position for most teams.

So if he goes to a team to be the first option and even 2nd and play PF he is worth 19 mil.

If he plays for the Heat in the same team, he is not worth it. you cannot take a decreased role and think to get 19 mil.

Give him some respect though.

[r377Participant]

There is only one month difference in age between Gortat and Bosh meaning both will be 35 in the last year of their contract. Centres do get paid a bit more and Bosh is prob really a PF so his worth isn’t much more than Gortat.

I personally wouldn’t give Bosh a 5 x $15 mill contract but I am sure that some team will offer him around that sort of money. I would pay him 3 x 15 but not 5 years.

[r377Participant]

There is only one month difference in age between Gortat and Bosh meaning both will be 35 in the last year of their contract. Centres do get paid a bit more and Bosh is prob really a PF so his worth isn’t much more than Gortat.

I personally wouldn’t give Bosh a 5 x $15 mill contract but I am sure that some team will offer him around that sort of money. I would pay him 3 x 15 but not 5 years.

[Ghost01Participant]

 So let me get this straight…

LeBron wants the max, which is fine. Bosh wants 90 mil, which is fine. Wade wants more guaranteed money than what he just opted out of ($40mil), and yet the Heat think they are going to be improved next year? It doesn’t add up. I’m not trying to add drama, I think all 3 will end up back in Miami. For these bright ideas of Marcin Gortat and Kyle Lowry are total bs. And now Skolnick is reporting they are keying in on "wing players"? Sure, there wings need depth but at least LEBRON JAMES is there. They have no PGs and no Cs. That is a bigger problem to me. 

I never count LeBron out, but resigning with this team could seriously hurt his chances at getting multiple championships in the next few years. Paying Bosh and Wade around 35 million in 2016-2017 is going to be absolutely brutal. 

[Hacker90Participant]

 Only players under contract right now are PGs, Cole & Napier. I think that’s the last position they need to be worry about. Completely agree though with everything else

[Ghost01Participant]

If your only players under contract are one of the worst players in the 2014 postseason, and a mid 2nd round picks who’s going to be 23 already and only got drafted where he did because of 5 games, I would say PG is still an area of need.

[Ghost01Participant]

If your only players under contract are one of the worst players in the 2014 postseason, and a mid 2nd round picks who’s going to be 23 already and only got drafted where he did because of 5 games, I would say PG is still an area of need.

[Hacker90Participant]

 Only players under contract right now are PGs, Cole & Napier. I think that’s the last position they need to be worry about. Completely agree though with everything else

[Ghost01Participant]

 So let me get this straight…

LeBron wants the max, which is fine. Bosh wants 90 mil, which is fine. Wade wants more guaranteed money than what he just opted out of ($40mil), and yet the Heat think they are going to be improved next year? It doesn’t add up. I’m not trying to add drama, I think all 3 will end up back in Miami. For these bright ideas of Marcin Gortat and Kyle Lowry are total bs. And now Skolnick is reporting they are keying in on "wing players"? Sure, there wings need depth but at least LEBRON JAMES is there. They have no PGs and no Cs. That is a bigger problem to me. 

I never count LeBron out, but resigning with this team could seriously hurt his chances at getting multiple championships in the next few years. Paying Bosh and Wade around 35 million in 2016-2017 is going to be absolutely brutal. 

[xJumpManxParticipant]

 Im a hater I would love Lebron back on the Cavs but I jsut do not see that happening, I just want those three to break up and go their seperate ways. .

[xJumpManxParticipant]

 Im a hater I would love Lebron back on the Cavs but I jsut do not see that happening, I just want those three to break up and go their seperate ways. .

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Thirty year old stretch four who is good on defense and smart, but not an inside scorer, on offense? That’s not a max player. 

I wouldn’t pay more than 4 years 56 mil, unless LeBron told me he would leave if Bosh did.

 

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Thirty year old stretch four who is good on defense and smart, but not an inside scorer, on offense? That’s not a max player. 

I wouldn’t pay more than 4 years 56 mil, unless LeBron told me he would leave if Bosh did.

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If Bosh actually wants that much I think the Heat are better off going after Melo and maybe signing someone else to play center

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

If Bosh actually wants that much I think the Heat are better off going after Melo and maybe signing someone else to play center

[WarblingSpamalopeParticipant]

I think the whole thing is pretty funny if true. It’s like a social experiment. The big 3 talked about sacrificing to improve the bench and to improve their legacy. Now they are fighting over money their children’s children won’t be spending. I’m not trying to hate on anyone trying to get paid. But if Wade and Bosh insist on getting paid and Lebron decides his back is sore from carrying them and walks, who do you point the finger at. There is value in being a winner and I’m talking about financial value. You can make that up later through endorsements. Bow to the king. He eats and you all eat

[CanadianGMParticipant]

 It’s 2016 and D Wade has become the next Brandon Roy and can’t play and is using up 15 million of cap room. Chris Bosh is a shell of his former self making 16 million shooting 3 s and getting paid like a star. 2015 ended poorly when Lebron had nobody and they got ousted in second round by the Wizards/ Bulls/ Pacer or Raptors. Now no veteran free agents want to play for the minimum and the entire salary cap is being maxed out by 3 players.

If Wade and Bosh don’t take significant paycuts and Im talking Wade accepting Ginolbi money and Bosh taking Duncan money, this Big 3 doesn’t make it back to the finals without help. Even the east teams are catching up to The Heat and the west has four or five teams that will be favoured to beat the heat. Should be an exciting week of free agency to see if Riley can pull something off.

[CanadianGMParticipant]

 It’s 2016 and D Wade has become the next Brandon Roy and can’t play and is using up 15 million of cap room. Chris Bosh is a shell of his former self making 16 million shooting 3 s and getting paid like a star. 2015 ended poorly when Lebron had nobody and they got ousted in second round by the Wizards/ Bulls/ Pacer or Raptors. Now no veteran free agents want to play for the minimum and the entire salary cap is being maxed out by 3 players.

If Wade and Bosh don’t take significant paycuts and Im talking Wade accepting Ginolbi money and Bosh taking Duncan money, this Big 3 doesn’t make it back to the finals without help. Even the east teams are catching up to The Heat and the west has four or five teams that will be favoured to beat the heat. Should be an exciting week of free agency to see if Riley can pull something off.

[WarblingSpamalopeParticipant]

I think the whole thing is pretty funny if true. It’s like a social experiment. The big 3 talked about sacrificing to improve the bench and to improve their legacy. Now they are fighting over money their children’s children won’t be spending. I’m not trying to hate on anyone trying to get paid. But if Wade and Bosh insist on getting paid and Lebron decides his back is sore from carrying them and walks, who do you point the finger at. There is value in being a winner and I’m talking about financial value. You can make that up later through endorsements. Bow to the king. He eats and you all eat

[220Participant]

 So if this is true does that mean Miami’s big three era is over? Supposedly Lebron wants max, Bosh wants $18 million a year, and I’d imagine Wade wants at least $12 million over five years. That won’t leave much cap space which likely means no big free agent signing which is needed if the Heat want to win more rings.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the big three go their separate ways at this point.

[220Participant]

 So if this is true does that mean Miami’s big three era is over? Supposedly Lebron wants max, Bosh wants $18 million a year, and I’d imagine Wade wants at least $12 million over five years. That won’t leave much cap space which likely means no big free agent signing which is needed if the Heat want to win more rings.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the big three go their separate ways at this point.

[HitsterParticipant]

Bosh and Wade could have easily opted in for $40 to $42 million each over the next 2 years so for any new deal below this they will want a long term commitment.

D-Wade’s deal would have taken him up until he was 34 years old so it would have been very easy for him to ride out the last two years and then either just retire or take the best deal available.

I’d think he’d be looking for $60 million over 4 years aprox.

The heat could try to 2nd guess which way the cap will go in coming years and try to load the deals to reflect that.

We don’t know if the likes of Bosh and especially D-Wade could ask for no trade clauses in any new deal.

[HitsterParticipant]

Bosh and Wade could have easily opted in for $40 to $42 million each over the next 2 years so for any new deal below this they will want a long term commitment.

D-Wade’s deal would have taken him up until he was 34 years old so it would have been very easy for him to ride out the last two years and then either just retire or take the best deal available.

I’d think he’d be looking for $60 million over 4 years aprox.

The heat could try to 2nd guess which way the cap will go in coming years and try to load the deals to reflect that.

We don’t know if the likes of Bosh and especially D-Wade could ask for no trade clauses in any new deal.

[dborlackParticipant]

If the initial rumors were true about the Heat and the distribution between Lebron Wade and Bosh of having a combined salary of 45 million then the remaining 12 million could be distributed to vets looking for a ring. The vets looking for a ring at a cost of the minimum plus some younger players looking for a chance in the league. They have a lot to pick from in free agency but based on what I can see a lineup that’s affordable can look something like this…
PG: Napier (Drafted)
SG: Wade
SF: James
PF: Haslem (resigns)
C: Bosh

Bench: PG- Cole, Jameer Nelson (wants to win, lives in Florida) SG-Ray Allen (resigns, loves playing with LBJ), Thabo Sefolosha (looking to win, not getting any younger, could have similar role as battier), SF- Nocioni (looking to get back into the league, good defender, tough), Francisco Garcia, Richard Jefferson, PF- Bonner (spreads the floor), C- Emeka Okafor, Cole Aldrich, Elton Brand

[dborlackParticipant]

If the initial rumors were true about the Heat and the distribution between Lebron Wade and Bosh of having a combined salary of 45 million then the remaining 12 million could be distributed to vets looking for a ring. The vets looking for a ring at a cost of the minimum plus some younger players looking for a chance in the league. They have a lot to pick from in free agency but based on what I can see a lineup that’s affordable can look something like this…
PG: Napier (Drafted)
SG: Wade
SF: James
PF: Haslem (resigns)
C: Bosh

Bench: PG- Cole, Jameer Nelson (wants to win, lives in Florida) SG-Ray Allen (resigns, loves playing with LBJ), Thabo Sefolosha (looking to win, not getting any younger, could have similar role as battier), SF- Nocioni (looking to get back into the league, good defender, tough), Francisco Garcia, Richard Jefferson, PF- Bonner (spreads the floor), C- Emeka Okafor, Cole Aldrich, Elton Brand

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