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  • #58123
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    Aderito
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    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/09/chris-bosh-playing-with-lebron-james-will-be-extremely-frustrating-for-kevin-love-wont-get-easier/

    “It’s going to be very difficult for him,” Bosh said of Love’s new task. “Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn’t make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It’s extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He’s going to have to deal with that

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  • #951077
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     Sour Grapes from Ex Teammate. Yea it was so bad for Bosh he was unsure if he would stay in Miami if LBJ left.  Everything Bosh had to do is already strengths of Love. Bosh is just upset Lebron is not there anymore to bring them a  title.

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  • #951210
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     Sour Grapes from Ex Teammate. Yea it was so bad for Bosh he was unsure if he would stay in Miami if LBJ left.  Everything Bosh had to do is already strengths of Love. Bosh is just upset Lebron is not there anymore to bring them a  title.

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  • #951083
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    the only adjustment bosh had to make was spending a little more time on the perimeter…his last season with the raptors he got 35% of his touches in the post and made 56% of his shots within 10 feet…last year in miami he got 7% of his touches in the post and took 36% within 10 feet of the rim..yet more then half of his shots were outside of 16 feet…….

    you can say that besides the dip in points 20.2 & 9.4 rbs compared to 17.3 pts and rbs 7.4 rbs in miami ….the rest his stats in miami are almost the same or slightly better than in toronto …

    bosh should be upset with himself for not playing better against the spurs in the finals…

     

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    • #951138
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      You act like that wasn’t a big adjustment…  It was…  The issue with what Bosh is saying is, Love rather be outside and I’m sure he isn’t trippinb since he’s never been on a team this talented.  As far as what player is a better fit with LeBron its Love > Bosh…  Personally, I understand what Bosh is saying and he may be a better player than Love at this moment that we don’t know of simply because of playing with Bron can restrict your production.  With that said, Love is still a better fit.   Same goes for D. Wade and Kyrie Irving…  

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    • #951271
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      You act like that wasn’t a big adjustment…  It was…  The issue with what Bosh is saying is, Love rather be outside and I’m sure he isn’t trippinb since he’s never been on a team this talented.  As far as what player is a better fit with LeBron its Love > Bosh…  Personally, I understand what Bosh is saying and he may be a better player than Love at this moment that we don’t know of simply because of playing with Bron can restrict your production.  With that said, Love is still a better fit.   Same goes for D. Wade and Kyrie Irving…  

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  • #951216
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    the only adjustment bosh had to make was spending a little more time on the perimeter…his last season with the raptors he got 35% of his touches in the post and made 56% of his shots within 10 feet…last year in miami he got 7% of his touches in the post and took 36% within 10 feet of the rim..yet more then half of his shots were outside of 16 feet…….

    you can say that besides the dip in points 20.2 & 9.4 rbs compared to 17.3 pts and rbs 7.4 rbs in miami ….the rest his stats in miami are almost the same or slightly better than in toronto …

    bosh should be upset with himself for not playing better against the spurs in the finals…

     

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  • #951084
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    Kevin Love is younger, bigger, more skilled, a better shooter, a better rebounder, smarter, and a better passer.

    And even if the above were not true, I’m sure Mr. Love would gladly make the aforementioned sacrifices in exchange for four Finals appearances and two titles.

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  • #951218
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    Kevin Love is younger, bigger, more skilled, a better shooter, a better rebounder, smarter, and a better passer.

    And even if the above were not true, I’m sure Mr. Love would gladly make the aforementioned sacrifices in exchange for four Finals appearances and two titles.

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  • #951090
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    I would definitely say Love has more range on his shot than Bosh does, and especially the Raptors version of Bosh, but Bosh has easily been a better mid-range shooter.

    Having said that, Love is easily a better rebounder and better outlet passer.  Bosh is the better defender between the two though.  Both are great players and are great fits with LeBron.

     

     

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  • #951224
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    I would definitely say Love has more range on his shot than Bosh does, and especially the Raptors version of Bosh, but Bosh has easily been a better mid-range shooter.

    Having said that, Love is easily a better rebounder and better outlet passer.  Bosh is the better defender between the two though.  Both are great players and are great fits with LeBron.

     

     

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  • #951096
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     Luckily, the East has another good rivalry this year (to replace Heat-Pacers) which will be the Cavs. vs. the Heat.  Could also be a great 1st or second round matchup.

    Could be up there with the renewed Bulls-Cavs rivarly.  

    Ironically, Chris Bosh would be a PERFECT fit on the new look Cavs.  He can block some shots, use his versatility, get more post ups, give the team ANOTHER long-distance shooter, and be the secondary rebounder next to Kevin Love.  That big four of LeBron, Bosh, Love, and Irving, with Andrew Wiggins (the guy they had to trade for Kevin Love) would probably be THE IDEAL LeBron James Led Team.

    One thing about Bosh vs. Love: when Bosh showed up in Miami, too, it was all about THE BIG THREE.  So, Wade and LeBron and Bosh.  NOW, it’s LeBron James is back and he is trying to get another major piece to join him.  

    It’s LeBron James’ city, LeBron James’ team, and LeBron James’ LEAGUE.  That’s a bit different than We Are THE BIG THREE going to Miami.

    Hopefully, LeBron learned how to play with other great players.  That should benefit Love (first rate star) and Kyrie Irving (up and coming star).  

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #951230
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     Luckily, the East has another good rivalry this year (to replace Heat-Pacers) which will be the Cavs. vs. the Heat.  Could also be a great 1st or second round matchup.

    Could be up there with the renewed Bulls-Cavs rivarly.  

    Ironically, Chris Bosh would be a PERFECT fit on the new look Cavs.  He can block some shots, use his versatility, get more post ups, give the team ANOTHER long-distance shooter, and be the secondary rebounder next to Kevin Love.  That big four of LeBron, Bosh, Love, and Irving, with Andrew Wiggins (the guy they had to trade for Kevin Love) would probably be THE IDEAL LeBron James Led Team.

    One thing about Bosh vs. Love: when Bosh showed up in Miami, too, it was all about THE BIG THREE.  So, Wade and LeBron and Bosh.  NOW, it’s LeBron James is back and he is trying to get another major piece to join him.  

    It’s LeBron James’ city, LeBron James’ team, and LeBron James’ LEAGUE.  That’s a bit different than We Are THE BIG THREE going to Miami.

    Hopefully, LeBron learned how to play with other great players.  That should benefit Love (first rate star) and Kyrie Irving (up and coming star).  

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #951098
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     Maybe D Wade was the guy that was hard to play with.

    Wade, historically, has dominated the ball.  Not a great outside shooter (or even average).

    So, LeBron shows up to do what Wade did (slash, handle the ball, get to the basket, play above the rim), but BETTER.  

    Took awhile for LeBron and Wade to figure it out (if they ever did).  

    Then Bosh had to deal with the dueling superstars.

    Maybe THAT was hard to deal with.  

    Maybe it WASN’T that Bosh was the third option.  Maybe it was that Bosh SHOULD have been the second option, and the two alpha dog superstars didn’t complement each other.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #951232
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     Maybe D Wade was the guy that was hard to play with.

    Wade, historically, has dominated the ball.  Not a great outside shooter (or even average).

    So, LeBron shows up to do what Wade did (slash, handle the ball, get to the basket, play above the rim), but BETTER.  

    Took awhile for LeBron and Wade to figure it out (if they ever did).  

    Then Bosh had to deal with the dueling superstars.

    Maybe THAT was hard to deal with.  

    Maybe it WASN’T that Bosh was the third option.  Maybe it was that Bosh SHOULD have been the second option, and the two alpha dog superstars didn’t complement each other.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #951104
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    Anton123
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    I hope that if LeBron and the Cavs can’t win a championship – Bosh makes a track asking LeBron how his ass tastes.

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  • #951238
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    Anton123
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    I hope that if LeBron and the Cavs can’t win a championship – Bosh makes a track asking LeBron how his ass tastes.

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  • #951127
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    King Calucha
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     Well, at least he’s getting some attention. I suppose that’s why he’s doing it. Otherwise, why ruin what seemed to be a good friendship? He doesn’t get better chances at the championship by talking trash about Lebron.

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  • #951261
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    King Calucha
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     Well, at least he’s getting some attention. I suppose that’s why he’s doing it. Otherwise, why ruin what seemed to be a good friendship? He doesn’t get better chances at the championship by talking trash about Lebron.

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  • #951410
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    I have a lot of respect for Bosh and he truely is a great guy but he really needs to shut up on things like that to me. What’s his problem? He went to the finals 4 straight times, was an All Star despite a significant drop in his his numbers and disappeard more than one time during playoffs, won 2 titles with a core of players he called his friends and an top of that, he get rewarded with a huge contract after his buddy left. 

    For sure he had to make sacrifices but talking about things like that over and over just makes him seem like he is still crying about his situation. Get over it or if it’s too hard to get over it, don’t let the whole world know that.

     I really hate when players say that they aren’t living in the past and they fine with the situation when they backfire multiple times at former teammates or even friends. Dwight did it with the Magic and Lakers and what’s the point about that at all? This won’t make you or your team any better. Deal with it and be thankful for what you could accomplish so far…

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  • #951276
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    I have a lot of respect for Bosh and he truely is a great guy but he really needs to shut up on things like that to me. What’s his problem? He went to the finals 4 straight times, was an All Star despite a significant drop in his his numbers and disappeard more than one time during playoffs, won 2 titles with a core of players he called his friends and an top of that, he get rewarded with a huge contract after his buddy left. 

    For sure he had to make sacrifices but talking about things like that over and over just makes him seem like he is still crying about his situation. Get over it or if it’s too hard to get over it, don’t let the whole world know that.

     I really hate when players say that they aren’t living in the past and they fine with the situation when they backfire multiple times at former teammates or even friends. Dwight did it with the Magic and Lakers and what’s the point about that at all? This won’t make you or your team any better. Deal with it and be thankful for what you could accomplish so far…

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  • #972085
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    mattun
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    Bosh was right…. Bosh was right…

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  • #972238
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    mattun
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    Bosh was right…. Bosh was right…

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