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- Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:51am #22482

TooNice4TVParticipantHit me with negatives, but I believe Scottie was the best defender of all time. Just look at the people he’s guarding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vFHYVXtRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1YchiFv-5M&annotation_id=annotation_984802&feature=iv
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:12am #417415

PlatypusParticipantBruce Bowen was dirty on the perimitter and Ben Wallace was great in the post, beat Shaq when they won the ship’
probably not the 2 best at that but i’m sendin them some love
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:12am #417416

PlatypusParticipantBruce Bowen was dirty on the perimitter and Ben Wallace was great in the post, beat Shaq when they won the ship’
probably not the 2 best at that but i’m sendin them some love
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:12am #417419

PlatypusParticipantBruce Bowen was dirty on the perimitter and Ben Wallace was great in the post, beat Shaq when they won the ship’
probably not the 2 best at that but i’m sendin them some love
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:12am #417421

PlatypusParticipantBruce Bowen was dirty on the perimitter and Ben Wallace was great in the post, beat Shaq when they won the ship’
probably not the 2 best at that but i’m sendin them some love
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:18am #417420
PaulsJayhawksParticipantIf its all time Bill Russell has to be in the conversation at least. Grabbed 50 rebounds in 1 game and was a game changer on the defensive end.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:18am #417424
PaulsJayhawksParticipantIf its all time Bill Russell has to be in the conversation at least. Grabbed 50 rebounds in 1 game and was a game changer on the defensive end.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:22am #417425
don cannonParticipantbill russell was the best post defender and payton was the best perimeter defender…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:22am #417428
don cannonParticipantbill russell was the best post defender and payton was the best perimeter defender…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:27am #417426

TooNice4TVParticipantbut they aren’t in conversation to best overall defender. Payton I got love for, but I would rather have the do everything pippen at a high level on defense over him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:27am #417431

TooNice4TVParticipantbut they aren’t in conversation to best overall defender. Payton I got love for, but I would rather have the do everything pippen at a high level on defense over him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:11am #417429

justin22443Participantpound for pound i’d give it to gp
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:11am #417432

justin22443Participantpound for pound i’d give it to gp
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 8:06am #417456

Anton123ParticipantI think Hakeem should be metioned here, he’s the only one in history, who finished in the top 10 in blocks (number one) and steals (number 8).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 8:06am #417460

Anton123ParticipantI think Hakeem should be metioned here, he’s the only one in history, who finished in the top 10 in blocks (number one) and steals (number 8).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 9:24am #417473

andxxxParticipantWhat about KG in his prime? He was able to defend in the post and go out to the perimeter to defend guards.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 9:24am #417476

andxxxParticipantWhat about KG in his prime? He was able to defend in the post and go out to the perimeter to defend guards.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 9:33am #417479

llperezsome of the all time best include payton, olajuwon, mutombo, pippen, rodman, ben wallace. Cant go wrong with any of those guys. But i think its harder for a gaurd to do it which is why i might give it to the glove.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 9:33am #417482

llperezsome of the all time best include payton, olajuwon, mutombo, pippen, rodman, ben wallace. Cant go wrong with any of those guys. But i think its harder for a gaurd to do it which is why i might give it to the glove.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:23pm #417609

NJHooper95ParticipantScottie is truly one of the top 3 or 4 defenders of all-time. I can give Scottie the best overall defensive player on the basis he was able to guard three to four positions effectively in his prime. Scottie was often give the task of defending the best player. In the 91 finals it was his defensive on Magic that really impacted the series. Against Orlando he really gave Penny Hardaway fits, made him look like he could not dribble. Scottie is definitely in the argument for greatest defender ever.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:23pm #417612

NJHooper95ParticipantScottie is truly one of the top 3 or 4 defenders of all-time. I can give Scottie the best overall defensive player on the basis he was able to guard three to four positions effectively in his prime. Scottie was often give the task of defending the best player. In the 91 finals it was his defensive on Magic that really impacted the series. Against Orlando he really gave Penny Hardaway fits, made him look like he could not dribble. Scottie is definitely in the argument for greatest defender ever.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/24/2010 - 7:49pm #418253

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantIt’s kinda hard to group all defenders together; I mean how can you compare what Pippin did to what Hakeem did? So different.
As far as best perimeter defenders I would have to put Pippin at number one. He was a great on the ball defender and help defender and absolutley lockdown. Gary Payton, Michael Cooper and Sidney Moncrief were incredible too. With Dennis Johnson, MJ, Dumars, Bowen, Artest and Kobe Bryant rounding out the top 10 of guys I’ve seen play.
Obviously other players like Walt Frazier, Bobby Jones and John Havlicek deserve credit as well but I never saw them play myself.
As far as interior defenders goes Bill Russell was considered the pinnacle for his day but as far as players that I’ve seen Hakeem was probably the best. Followed by David Robinson, Ben Wallace, Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard, Dikembe Mutombo and Mark Eaton.
At power forward Tim Duncan has been so consistant over the years, but Kevin Garnett has been so versatile and Dennis Rodman was absolutely incredible in his prime.
If I had to put together a team of all time great defenders it would probably look something like this:
PG Gary Payton/Walt Frazier
SG Sidney Moncrief/Michael Jordan
SF Scottie Pippin/Bobby Jones/Michael Cooper
PF Tim Duncan/Dennis Rodman
C Bill Russell/Hakeem Olajuwon/Ben Wallace
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/24/2010 - 7:49pm #418264

ItsVictorOladipoParticipantIt’s kinda hard to group all defenders together; I mean how can you compare what Pippin did to what Hakeem did? So different.
As far as best perimeter defenders I would have to put Pippin at number one. He was a great on the ball defender and help defender and absolutley lockdown. Gary Payton, Michael Cooper and Sidney Moncrief were incredible too. With Dennis Johnson, MJ, Dumars, Bowen, Artest and Kobe Bryant rounding out the top 10 of guys I’ve seen play.
Obviously other players like Walt Frazier, Bobby Jones and John Havlicek deserve credit as well but I never saw them play myself.
As far as interior defenders goes Bill Russell was considered the pinnacle for his day but as far as players that I’ve seen Hakeem was probably the best. Followed by David Robinson, Ben Wallace, Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard, Dikembe Mutombo and Mark Eaton.
At power forward Tim Duncan has been so consistant over the years, but Kevin Garnett has been so versatile and Dennis Rodman was absolutely incredible in his prime.
If I had to put together a team of all time great defenders it would probably look something like this:
PG Gary Payton/Walt Frazier
SG Sidney Moncrief/Michael Jordan
SF Scottie Pippin/Bobby Jones/Michael Cooper
PF Tim Duncan/Dennis Rodman
C Bill Russell/Hakeem Olajuwon/Ben Wallace
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/24/2010 - 8:06pm #418259

RUDEBOY_ParticipantItsDwightHoward i had to give you a point for mentioning Sidney Moncrief..Nobody on this site ever talks about him..I think he was 1 of the 5 best shooting guards in the league from 1981-1987….
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/24/2010 - 8:06pm #418270

RUDEBOY_ParticipantItsDwightHoward i had to give you a point for mentioning Sidney Moncrief..Nobody on this site ever talks about him..I think he was 1 of the 5 best shooting guards in the league from 1981-1987….
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 6:35am #418402
rtbtParticipantFor those of us who’ve been around a long time, the best defender of all time was Bill Russell.
The best perimeter defender was Walt "Clyde" Frazier or Gary Payton, take your choice.
As for Dwight Howard, he’s a fantastic weak side defender but he still doesn’t rate up as high as Russell in terms of guarding his opposing center.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 6:35am #418411
rtbtParticipantFor those of us who’ve been around a long time, the best defender of all time was Bill Russell.
The best perimeter defender was Walt "Clyde" Frazier or Gary Payton, take your choice.
As for Dwight Howard, he’s a fantastic weak side defender but he still doesn’t rate up as high as Russell in terms of guarding his opposing center.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 6:57am #418412

omphalosParticipantThat’s Dwight in a nutshell; gets lots of weak side blocks which look great in highlights, but isn’t really a superstar when it comes to defending his OWN man. This is why I’m not sure I like the fact that he got 2 straight DPoY awards, and is likely to get a third. Ah well.
As far as best defender; that clip of Pippen D was pretty darn impressive; I just watched a clip from the Scottie Pippen charity game and he held Jordan pretty damn well, which is more than most defenders can say.
While I’d give the gong to Pip, I’d have to give Payton second place given the amazing job he did in slowing down Jordan in the ’96 Finals.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 6:57am #418421

omphalosParticipantThat’s Dwight in a nutshell; gets lots of weak side blocks which look great in highlights, but isn’t really a superstar when it comes to defending his OWN man. This is why I’m not sure I like the fact that he got 2 straight DPoY awards, and is likely to get a third. Ah well.
As far as best defender; that clip of Pippen D was pretty darn impressive; I just watched a clip from the Scottie Pippen charity game and he held Jordan pretty damn well, which is more than most defenders can say.
While I’d give the gong to Pip, I’d have to give Payton second place given the amazing job he did in slowing down Jordan in the ’96 Finals.
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