[valentine]

Man, we all knew that his court vision and passing was a strength, but I don’t think we had any idea it was going to be on this level. He can be a productive player with that skill alone. WOW!

https://youtu.be/wVZuydq5lzo

[GronounoursParticipant]

 Errr… I like Simmons, but that was just a SL game. And I think we all knew already he can pass.

How many FT did he miss?

[GronounoursParticipant]

 Errr… I like Simmons, but that was just a SL game. And I think we all knew already he can pass.

How many FT did he miss?

[GronounoursParticipant]

 Errr… I like Simmons, but that was just a SL game. And I think we all knew already he can pass.

How many FT did he miss?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He has that God given court vision like LeBron. Very good ball handler and passer for his size. He’s clearly more of a playmaker than a scorer. Similar to LBJ also, he just has that unreal body at such a young age. Not the athlete nor does he have the length/reach LBJ has, but just that body/strength.

With that said, he has a long way to go offensively in regards to his offensive skill set, playing without the ball, shooting, footwork, etc. I’m really intrigued to see how he develops his game and just what he adds to it each season. 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He has that God given court vision like LeBron. Very good ball handler and passer for his size. He’s clearly more of a playmaker than a scorer. Similar to LBJ also, he just has that unreal body at such a young age. Not the athlete nor does he have the length/reach LBJ has, but just that body/strength.

With that said, he has a long way to go offensively in regards to his offensive skill set, playing without the ball, shooting, footwork, etc. I’m really intrigued to see how he develops his game and just what he adds to it each season. 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He has that God given court vision like LeBron. Very good ball handler and passer for his size. He’s clearly more of a playmaker than a scorer. Similar to LBJ also, he just has that unreal body at such a young age. Not the athlete nor does he have the length/reach LBJ has, but just that body/strength.

With that said, he has a long way to go offensively in regards to his offensive skill set, playing without the ball, shooting, footwork, etc. I’m really intrigued to see how he develops his game and just what he adds to it each season. 

[Hype Machine]

I was watching this game and Simmons was just clowning with his floor game. Should have had 10 assists but his passes were so on point that all Utah bigs could do was foul.

 

Hes 19 so hes not automatic with his scoring and is easily fooled on defense. 

 

But hes going to be unstoppable in a pick n roll with Embiid. Defenders sag…so he just eats up the space and becomes dangerous. 

 

People ridiculed me for suggesting he will average 8.5apg but hes such a willing passer that it seems entirely realistic.

 

[Hype Machine]

I was watching this game and Simmons was just clowning with his floor game. Should have had 10 assists but his passes were so on point that all Utah bigs could do was foul.

 

Hes 19 so hes not automatic with his scoring and is easily fooled on defense. 

 

But hes going to be unstoppable in a pick n roll with Embiid. Defenders sag…so he just eats up the space and becomes dangerous. 

 

People ridiculed me for suggesting he will average 8.5apg but hes such a willing passer that it seems entirely realistic.

 

[holefillers1Participant]

 8+ ast is a very attainable number. I think he is 3rd in the league in triple doubles

[holefillers1Participant]

 8+ ast is a very attainable number. I think he is 3rd in the league in triple doubles

[holefillers1Participant]

 8+ ast is a very attainable number. I think he is 3rd in the league in triple doubles

[EndlessknightParticipant]

8.5a/g would be higher than the rookie years of Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Jason Kid and Chris Paul. It’s not going to happen.

[EndlessknightParticipant]

8.5a/g would be higher than the rookie years of Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Jason Kid and Chris Paul. It’s not going to happen.

[EndlessknightParticipant]

8.5a/g would be higher than the rookie years of Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Jason Kid and Chris Paul. It’s not going to happen.

[Hype Machine]

I was watching this game and Simmons was just clowning with his floor game. Should have had 10 assists but his passes were so on point that all Utah bigs could do was foul.

 

Hes 19 so hes not automatic with his scoring and is easily fooled on defense. 

 

But hes going to be unstoppable in a pick n roll with Embiid. Defenders sag…so he just eats up the space and becomes dangerous. 

 

People ridiculed me for suggesting he will average 8.5apg but hes such a willing passer that it seems entirely realistic.

 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Concerned about his scoring ability, but it will come.. If all he can do is pass Sixers fans will be upset 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Concerned about his scoring ability, but it will come.. If all he can do is pass Sixers fans will be upset 

[negguaryParticipant]

I’m more concerned about his willingness to score as opposed to his ability to score! The ability is clearly there he just loves passing so much and getting everyone involved that I fear that he won’t recognize when it’s time to take over! But when he get with jahlil and embeast mannnnnnn!!!! 

[negguaryParticipant]

I’m more concerned about his willingness to score as opposed to his ability to score! The ability is clearly there he just loves passing so much and getting everyone involved that I fear that he won’t recognize when it’s time to take over! But when he get with jahlil and embeast mannnnnnn!!!! 

[negguaryParticipant]

I’m more concerned about his willingness to score as opposed to his ability to score! The ability is clearly there he just loves passing so much and getting everyone involved that I fear that he won’t recognize when it’s time to take over! But when he get with jahlil and embeast mannnnnnn!!!! 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Concerned about his scoring ability, but it will come.. If all he can do is pass Sixers fans will be upset 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 His court vision is spectacular but his overall offensive game is raw at this point. At some point you have to establish yourself as a threat to score the ball or defenses will just play you to pass and negate that ability. Keep in mind that this is just summer league with mostly fringe NBA players. Things will get much more difficult for him once the actual season starts.

He has actually shown the willingness to take some mid-range shots so far, even though he has looked awkward and uncomfortable shooting them. At least that’s an improvement over what we saw from him in college. His footwork in the post still needs work as well as his ability to finish around the basket. He is much more comfortable playing from the perimeter but his lack of a jump shot limits his effectiveness off the dribble, as defenders just sag way off.

Since the first time I’ve seen him play, I’ve been wanting to be wowed by Simmons. For him to show me something where I can definitively look at him and say "that guy is a future NBA superstar". I knew it within about 2 mins of watching lebron play a high school game and very quickly with Durant as well. It’s possible that I am just looking too hard or expecting too much, but I am just still not convinced with Simmons.

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 His court vision is spectacular but his overall offensive game is raw at this point. At some point you have to establish yourself as a threat to score the ball or defenses will just play you to pass and negate that ability. Keep in mind that this is just summer league with mostly fringe NBA players. Things will get much more difficult for him once the actual season starts.

He has actually shown the willingness to take some mid-range shots so far, even though he has looked awkward and uncomfortable shooting them. At least that’s an improvement over what we saw from him in college. His footwork in the post still needs work as well as his ability to finish around the basket. He is much more comfortable playing from the perimeter but his lack of a jump shot limits his effectiveness off the dribble, as defenders just sag way off.

Since the first time I’ve seen him play, I’ve been wanting to be wowed by Simmons. For him to show me something where I can definitively look at him and say "that guy is a future NBA superstar". I knew it within about 2 mins of watching lebron play a high school game and very quickly with Durant as well. It’s possible that I am just looking too hard or expecting too much, but I am just still not convinced with Simmons.

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

Its hard to just give him a pass for his 4/17 shooting in two summer league games outside the fact that it is a small sample size. If he can’t score against fringe NBA players how is he going to score against big time players? Obviously the passing and the ball handling are special especially for a guy his size, but how many superstars have there ever been that aren’t scorers? This is why I think Simmons is more of a robin than a batman. If you ask him to carry your team, I don’t think he can. But if you give him a bonafide superstar and some shooters, and defenses aren’t keying in on him, he’s going to pick apart your defense with that effortless passing and handling. 

 

 

[dudo670Participant]

Its hard to just give him a pass for his 4/17 shooting in two summer league games outside the fact that it is a small sample size. If he can’t score against fringe NBA players how is he going to score against big time players? Obviously the passing and the ball handling are special especially for a guy his size, but how many superstars have there ever been that aren’t scorers? This is why I think Simmons is more of a robin than a batman. If you ask him to carry your team, I don’t think he can. But if you give him a bonafide superstar and some shooters, and defenses aren’t keying in on him, he’s going to pick apart your defense with that effortless passing and handling. 

 

 

[VintageKobeParticipant]

 That robin part is what I’ve been saying about Ben for a while. While I think he will be a great player I don’t see him being able to score at the level of a super star. He’s the ultimate number 2 for a scoring oriented superstar. 

[VintageKobeParticipant]

 That robin part is what I’ve been saying about Ben for a while. While I think he will be a great player I don’t see him being able to score at the level of a super star. He’s the ultimate number 2 for a scoring oriented superstar. 

[VintageKobeParticipant]

 That robin part is what I’ve been saying about Ben for a while. While I think he will be a great player I don’t see him being able to score at the level of a super star. He’s the ultimate number 2 for a scoring oriented superstar. 

[dudo670Participant]

Its hard to just give him a pass for his 4/17 shooting in two summer league games outside the fact that it is a small sample size. If he can’t score against fringe NBA players how is he going to score against big time players? Obviously the passing and the ball handling are special especially for a guy his size, but how many superstars have there ever been that aren’t scorers? This is why I think Simmons is more of a robin than a batman. If you ask him to carry your team, I don’t think he can. But if you give him a bonafide superstar and some shooters, and defenses aren’t keying in on him, he’s going to pick apart your defense with that effortless passing and handling. 

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 His court vision is spectacular but his overall offensive game is raw at this point. At some point you have to establish yourself as a threat to score the ball or defenses will just play you to pass and negate that ability. Keep in mind that this is just summer league with mostly fringe NBA players. Things will get much more difficult for him once the actual season starts.

He has actually shown the willingness to take some mid-range shots so far, even though he has looked awkward and uncomfortable shooting them. At least that’s an improvement over what we saw from him in college. His footwork in the post still needs work as well as his ability to finish around the basket. He is much more comfortable playing from the perimeter but his lack of a jump shot limits his effectiveness off the dribble, as defenders just sag way off.

Since the first time I’ve seen him play, I’ve been wanting to be wowed by Simmons. For him to show me something where I can definitively look at him and say "that guy is a future NBA superstar". I knew it within about 2 mins of watching lebron play a high school game and very quickly with Durant as well. It’s possible that I am just looking too hard or expecting too much, but I am just still not convinced with Simmons.

 

 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 I say Jaylen Brown will be the better player when it is said in done.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 I say Jaylen Brown will be the better player when it is said in done.

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Would you have drafted Brown ahead of Simmons if you had the first pick?

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Would you have drafted Brown ahead of Simmons if you had the first pick?

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Would you have drafted Brown ahead of Simmons if you had the first pick?

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 I say Jaylen Brown will be the better player when it is said in done.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Simmons should be a nice PG. He is not all world athletic. Not a good shooter or a defender. Simmons should be ok. Like I said I think Brown is more explosive, has underrated IQAND will be a better defender and scorer. Do you believe Simmons will be better than Brown on both sides of the ball?yes or no pick one and explain. Brown will be a better scorer and defender when all said and done. Am I wrong?

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Simmons is/will be a better player than Brown.

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Simmons is/will be a better player than Brown.

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Simmons is/will be a better player than Brown.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Simmons should be a nice PG. He is not all world athletic. Not a good shooter or a defender. Simmons should be ok. Like I said I think Brown is more explosive, has underrated IQAND will be a better defender and scorer. Do you believe Simmons will be better than Brown on both sides of the ball?yes or no pick one and explain. Brown will be a better scorer and defender when all said and done. Am I wrong?

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Simmons should be a nice PG. He is not all world athletic. Not a good shooter or a defender. Simmons should be ok. Like I said I think Brown is more explosive, has underrated IQAND will be a better defender and scorer. Do you believe Simmons will be better than Brown on both sides of the ball?yes or no pick one and explain. Brown will be a better scorer and defender when all said and done. Am I wrong?

[DanielcmccartyParticipant]

 He’s 19. A great athlete. You can teach shooting. You can work on it and get a lot better at it with putting in the time. If you can’t tell, he’s clearly putting in work on his body.  You can’t teach his natural passing/playmaking/size. He’s gonna be a star. He’s 19, his offensive skill set will expand. 

[DanielcmccartyParticipant]

 He’s 19. A great athlete. You can teach shooting. You can work on it and get a lot better at it with putting in the time. If you can’t tell, he’s clearly putting in work on his body.  You can’t teach his natural passing/playmaking/size. He’s gonna be a star. He’s 19, his offensive skill set will expand. 

[DanielcmccartyParticipant]

 He’s 19. A great athlete. You can teach shooting. You can work on it and get a lot better at it with putting in the time. If you can’t tell, he’s clearly putting in work on his body.  You can’t teach his natural passing/playmaking/size. He’s gonna be a star. He’s 19, his offensive skill set will expand. 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Who has more potential when it comes to scoring and D?

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

Simmons scored 19.2 points per game and shot 56%.

Brown scored 14.6 points per game and shot 43%.

 

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

Simmons scored 19.2 points per game and shot 56%.

Brown scored 14.6 points per game and shot 43%.

 

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

Simmons scored 19.2 points per game and shot 56%.

Brown scored 14.6 points per game and shot 43%.

 

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Brown had a pretty empty box score today. Let’s not get too fixated on early impressions.

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Brown had a pretty empty box score today. Let’s not get too fixated on early impressions.

[PatrickMurphyParticipant]

 Brown had a pretty empty box score today. Let’s not get too fixated on early impressions.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Who has more potential when it comes to scoring and D?

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 Who has more potential when it comes to scoring and D?

[vulture711Participant]

shoot as a last resort – then it rushed and off balance and only after he doesn’t have a pass he can make. Needs to catch the ball with the intent to score and not as a last option 

[vulture711Participant]

shoot as a last resort – then it rushed and off balance and only after he doesn’t have a pass he can make. Needs to catch the ball with the intent to score and not as a last option 

[vulture711Participant]

shoot as a last resort – then it rushed and off balance and only after he doesn’t have a pass he can make. Needs to catch the ball with the intent to score and not as a last option 

[Andv1 WaitingParticipant]

Just my observations from the two games Simmons has played: 

I believe that the talent is definitely there however I am questioning how NBA ready he is as it seem like he is stil a bit raw in quite a few areas…

 The good:

 NBA ready body 

Seems like a willing passer

Solid rebounder

Looks like lebron when going downhill(when he has momentum/on fast break)

and looks to involve his team mates.

The bad:

The reluctancy to shoot which I don’t know if its a shaky jumper, lack of confidence in his shot or both as there were moments when it looked ok then moments where you think WTH is that..I will give him this though at least he is finally taking some mid range shots though so props for that.

The defensive effort doesn’t always seem to be there..

That he sometimes seems like he relies on natural talent vs actual earned/practiced skill-see blocked shots or clumsy looking shot attempts

The lack of takeover/aggressiveness which you want from your franchise player epecially while he is playing against d-league talent with the exception of Jaylen brown and Trey lyles…Hopefully this pickups in the las vegas league..

Can he correct these flaws, he should with time and once he gets to play with the actual Team(embiid etc) as they will help him get better looks as the talent is definitely there.. 

However if was comparing Kris Dunn against Simmons  and who looks more ready to come in and produce right now..Dunn is looking like John Wall vs Simmons looking more like Lamar Odom(rather than Magic/Lebron)..

As Dunn took it at Emmanuel Mudiay(last years number 7 pick)+ Gary Harris( which is the Nuggets starting backcourt), and  Jamal murray(7th pick) and out played them all while dropping 27 points(on 10 of 18 shooting + F/T’s) 10 rebounds 4 dimes and playing solid defense which resulted in some steals….Dunn showed aggresiveness,that there is no fear and that he wants to succeed badly something I was hoping to see from Simmons….

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Andv1 WaitingParticipant]

Just my observations from the two games Simmons has played: 

I believe that the talent is definitely there however I am questioning how NBA ready he is as it seem like he is stil a bit raw in quite a few areas…

 The good:

 NBA ready body 

Seems like a willing passer

Solid rebounder

Looks like lebron when going downhill(when he has momentum/on fast break)

and looks to involve his team mates.

The bad:

The reluctancy to shoot which I don’t know if its a shaky jumper, lack of confidence in his shot or both as there were moments when it looked ok then moments where you think WTH is that..I will give him this though at least he is finally taking some mid range shots though so props for that.

The defensive effort doesn’t always seem to be there..

That he sometimes seems like he relies on natural talent vs actual earned/practiced skill-see blocked shots or clumsy looking shot attempts

The lack of takeover/aggressiveness which you want from your franchise player epecially while he is playing against d-league talent with the exception of Jaylen brown and Trey lyles…Hopefully this pickups in the las vegas league..

Can he correct these flaws, he should with time and once he gets to play with the actual Team(embiid etc) as they will help him get better looks as the talent is definitely there.. 

However if was comparing Kris Dunn against Simmons  and who looks more ready to come in and produce right now..Dunn is looking like John Wall vs Simmons looking more like Lamar Odom(rather than Magic/Lebron)..

As Dunn took it at Emmanuel Mudiay(last years number 7 pick)+ Gary Harris( which is the Nuggets starting backcourt), and  Jamal murray(7th pick) and out played them all while dropping 27 points(on 10 of 18 shooting + F/T’s) 10 rebounds 4 dimes and playing solid defense which resulted in some steals….Dunn showed aggresiveness,that there is no fear and that he wants to succeed badly something I was hoping to see from Simmons….

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Andv1 WaitingParticipant]

Just my observations from the two games Simmons has played: 

I believe that the talent is definitely there however I am questioning how NBA ready he is as it seem like he is stil a bit raw in quite a few areas…

 The good:

 NBA ready body 

Seems like a willing passer

Solid rebounder

Looks like lebron when going downhill(when he has momentum/on fast break)

and looks to involve his team mates.

The bad:

The reluctancy to shoot which I don’t know if its a shaky jumper, lack of confidence in his shot or both as there were moments when it looked ok then moments where you think WTH is that..I will give him this though at least he is finally taking some mid range shots though so props for that.

The defensive effort doesn’t always seem to be there..

That he sometimes seems like he relies on natural talent vs actual earned/practiced skill-see blocked shots or clumsy looking shot attempts

The lack of takeover/aggressiveness which you want from your franchise player epecially while he is playing against d-league talent with the exception of Jaylen brown and Trey lyles…Hopefully this pickups in the las vegas league..

Can he correct these flaws, he should with time and once he gets to play with the actual Team(embiid etc) as they will help him get better looks as the talent is definitely there.. 

However if was comparing Kris Dunn against Simmons  and who looks more ready to come in and produce right now..Dunn is looking like John Wall vs Simmons looking more like Lamar Odom(rather than Magic/Lebron)..

As Dunn took it at Emmanuel Mudiay(last years number 7 pick)+ Gary Harris( which is the Nuggets starting backcourt), and  Jamal murray(7th pick) and out played them all while dropping 27 points(on 10 of 18 shooting + F/T’s) 10 rebounds 4 dimes and playing solid defense which resulted in some steals….Dunn showed aggresiveness,that there is no fear and that he wants to succeed badly something I was hoping to see from Simmons….

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

Most establish a scoring game first if he want to be effective star, if not all this is for nothing!

[kobyzParticipant]

Most establish a scoring game first if he want to be effective star, if not all this is for nothing!

[kobyzParticipant]

Most establish a scoring game first if he want to be effective star, if not all this is for nothing!

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