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  • #62922
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    As of today, where do you guys have Kevin Durant among the all-time greats who have ever played? He’s currently 27 years old, owns a career scoring average of 27ppg, and slashes a ridiculous 48/38/88 percentage mark from the field/3pt arc/ft line. As if his scoring ability wasn’t enough, he’s kicking in career averages of 3.6 assists, 1.2 stls, and 1.0 blks. Lastly he’s a 7 time all star, 4 time scoring champ, league mvp, and 1 time NBA finals participant  Nasty.

    Me personally, I already have KD cracking the top 30 list all time. I have him ahead of the likes of:

    • James Worthy
    • Clyde Drexler
    • Early Monroe
    • Willis Reed
    • Bill Walton

    I have him knocking on the door of the echelon below, and possibly surpassing if he wins 1 championship:

    • Charles Barkley
    • Patrick Ewing 
    • Walt Frazier
    • Elgin Baylor
    • George Gervin

    What’s so freaky about Kevin Durant & why I have him so highly rated is his historic efficiency. IMO he would be considered an all-timer if he slashed 44/35/78, but he’s perrenially a top 5 shooter in the league as a high usage, 6’10 wing. I truly believe he has an outside chance to be one of the 8-10 greatest players of all time when it’s said and done.

     

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  • #1045577
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     Better start winning titles.  I look at him like Charles Barkley. Great player who played in an era with the greatest player. Barkley was the second best player in the league for years behind Jordan.  KD is in that same boat with Lebron. With out a championship he will never get higher on my list thab Sir Charles 

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  • #1045441
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     Better start winning titles.  I look at him like Charles Barkley. Great player who played in an era with the greatest player. Barkley was the second best player in the league for years behind Jordan.  KD is in that same boat with Lebron. With out a championship he will never get higher on my list thab Sir Charles 

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  • #1045579
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    James Worth has Championships and they played against the Sixers and those Celtics teams
    Clyde was the man in Portland before he teamed up with The Dream
    Earl Monroe “Black Jesus” was Allen Iverson before Iverson
    Willis Reed Championship
    Bill Walton Championship by himself before his body broke down and he played with Boston and won there

    He is very good and eventually will pass the first group but he is not there yet. He wont surpass Barkley, Baylor, Gervin and Ewing because of the eras. Maybe Frazier but not even him because he has a championship and he played in NYC. Good post though….He is a humble superstar as well.

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  • #1045443
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    James Worth has Championships and they played against the Sixers and those Celtics teams
    Clyde was the man in Portland before he teamed up with The Dream
    Earl Monroe “Black Jesus” was Allen Iverson before Iverson
    Willis Reed Championship
    Bill Walton Championship by himself before his body broke down and he played with Boston and won there

    He is very good and eventually will pass the first group but he is not there yet. He wont surpass Barkley, Baylor, Gervin and Ewing because of the eras. Maybe Frazier but not even him because he has a championship and he played in NYC. Good post though….He is a humble superstar as well.

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    • #1045605
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      I gotta disagree with alot of these.

      Monroe was a four time All-Star with 1 All NBA selection. 

      Worthy has three championships but never made an All-NBA first or second team. He was never the top player on a contending team and for two of those championships he wasn’t even the second best player on his own team. 

      Bill Walton, is IMO often overrated on all-time lists. He had one and a half very good years, and happened to win a championship in one of them (during possibly the weakest era of championship teams in NBA history). He was a great player but I think his peak was too brief to consider him a top 40 player all time just like guys like Maurice Stokes (the original Lebron), Connie Hawkins and Grant Hill.

      Willis Reed, I think this one is debatable as of right now. Reed won two championships and two finals MVPs and also made 5 All-NBA teams and 7 All-Star teams, as of right now I’d probably give the edge to Reed as well.

      Clyde Drexler. Another close one but Drexler was never really considered a top player in the league except for a couple of years. 

      George Gervin. IMO Durant’s already surpassed him. Gervin had even less playoff success than Durant so that can’t be an issue. Gervin was just as great of a scorer as Durant (not as good of a shooter but different eras so that’s a bit unfair) but he was an inferior defender, passer and rebounder. 

      Let’s keep in mind that Durant is a seven time All-Star with 5 All-NBA first team selections to his credit. Only 18 players in NBA history have more first team selections and only 24 other players have as many. He’s also been an obvious top 3 player in this league for about 6 years. Some of the guys on this list were never considered top 5 players in the league or were only considered in that upper echelon for a year or two.

       

       

       

       

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    • #1045469
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      I gotta disagree with alot of these.

      Monroe was a four time All-Star with 1 All NBA selection. 

      Worthy has three championships but never made an All-NBA first or second team. He was never the top player on a contending team and for two of those championships he wasn’t even the second best player on his own team. 

      Bill Walton, is IMO often overrated on all-time lists. He had one and a half very good years, and happened to win a championship in one of them (during possibly the weakest era of championship teams in NBA history). He was a great player but I think his peak was too brief to consider him a top 40 player all time just like guys like Maurice Stokes (the original Lebron), Connie Hawkins and Grant Hill.

      Willis Reed, I think this one is debatable as of right now. Reed won two championships and two finals MVPs and also made 5 All-NBA teams and 7 All-Star teams, as of right now I’d probably give the edge to Reed as well.

      Clyde Drexler. Another close one but Drexler was never really considered a top player in the league except for a couple of years. 

      George Gervin. IMO Durant’s already surpassed him. Gervin had even less playoff success than Durant so that can’t be an issue. Gervin was just as great of a scorer as Durant (not as good of a shooter but different eras so that’s a bit unfair) but he was an inferior defender, passer and rebounder. 

      Let’s keep in mind that Durant is a seven time All-Star with 5 All-NBA first team selections to his credit. Only 18 players in NBA history have more first team selections and only 24 other players have as many. He’s also been an obvious top 3 player in this league for about 6 years. Some of the guys on this list were never considered top 5 players in the league or were only considered in that upper echelon for a year or two.

       

       

       

       

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  • #1045581
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    I’d feel comfortable putting KD in the top 30 list but rather like AI that lack of a title or two may count against him. Also the Thunder with him having Westbrook – another top 5/6 NBA player as a running mate, you have to say that only one NBA Final appearance must count against him.

    Make no mistake KD is a great player and for example the likes of Dirk or Jason Kidd finally winning a title in 2011 doesn’t really push them further up the all time list. A lot depends what era players play in – look at Hakeem who had to wait until MJ took his first sabatical to get a title or Jerry West whose Lakers were always bettered by Bill Russell’s Celtics.

    The thing is the OKC have the talent to reach finals and win them but almost like the Nash/STAT era Phoenix they come up short or another team edges them out. As a neutral I’d love KD to win a title in the next few years ideally with OKC.

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  • #1045446
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    I’d feel comfortable putting KD in the top 30 list but rather like AI that lack of a title or two may count against him. Also the Thunder with him having Westbrook – another top 5/6 NBA player as a running mate, you have to say that only one NBA Final appearance must count against him.

    Make no mistake KD is a great player and for example the likes of Dirk or Jason Kidd finally winning a title in 2011 doesn’t really push them further up the all time list. A lot depends what era players play in – look at Hakeem who had to wait until MJ took his first sabatical to get a title or Jerry West whose Lakers were always bettered by Bill Russell’s Celtics.

    The thing is the OKC have the talent to reach finals and win them but almost like the Nash/STAT era Phoenix they come up short or another team edges them out. As a neutral I’d love KD to win a title in the next few years ideally with OKC.

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    • #1045626
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      SubZero
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      Do you not take into account the fact that every playoff series our big 3 has been completely healthy, we’ve won? They can’t help the fact that they kept getting injured the past 3 years. I think we definitely would’ve had 2 or 3 more appearances if they stayed healthy

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    • #1045489
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      Do you not take into account the fact that every playoff series our big 3 has been completely healthy, we’ve won? They can’t help the fact that they kept getting injured the past 3 years. I think we definitely would’ve had 2 or 3 more appearances if they stayed healthy

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    • #1045628
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      Do you not take into account the fact that every playoff series our big 3 has been completely healthy, we’ve won? They can’t help the fact that they kept getting injured the past 3 years. I think we definitely would’ve had 2 or 3 more appearances if they stayed healthy

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    • #1045491
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      Do you not take into account the fact that every playoff series our big 3 has been completely healthy, we’ve won? They can’t help the fact that they kept getting injured the past 3 years. I think we definitely would’ve had 2 or 3 more appearances if they stayed healthy

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  • #1045607
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     KD is closing top20 in my book

    I mean this the second best player of the decade, by far (yes probably you think how about Curry? Curry is on another level today, but this is 2016 Curry, 2015 Curry wasnt on KD level, 2010-2014 Curry not even in the same category)

     

    I mean 32ppg 7.5rpg close to 6 assists MVP season was one of the kind , and even without title he is in the category with Malone Barkley, that most of his career he still was a winner, MVP contender, title contender..

    and with that being said both Mailman and Charles are top20 in my opinion.

    Winning title + MVP + few more scoring titles can put him veeeeeery high

     

     

     

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  • #1045471
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     KD is closing top20 in my book

    I mean this the second best player of the decade, by far (yes probably you think how about Curry? Curry is on another level today, but this is 2016 Curry, 2015 Curry wasnt on KD level, 2010-2014 Curry not even in the same category)

     

    I mean 32ppg 7.5rpg close to 6 assists MVP season was one of the kind , and even without title he is in the category with Malone Barkley, that most of his career he still was a winner, MVP contender, title contender..

    and with that being said both Mailman and Charles are top20 in my opinion.

    Winning title + MVP + few more scoring titles can put him veeeeeery high

     

     

     

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  • #1045609
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     Top 40 right now wit a chance to move into top 20!!!!! Don’t think he"ll ever become Top 10 or be in conversation for that honor!!!!! He is already amongst the top 10 sfs of all time!!!!!!!!!!

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     Top 40 right now wit a chance to move into top 20!!!!! Don’t think he"ll ever become Top 10 or be in conversation for that honor!!!!! He is already amongst the top 10 sfs of all time!!!!!!!!!!

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  • #1045612
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    DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64

     I had to give myself a point for that highly intelligent and insightful response!!!! 

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    DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64

     I had to give myself a point for that highly intelligent and insightful response!!!! 

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  • #1045619
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    Hype Machine

    Top 15 easy. If you allow roughly the best 2 or 3 players per decade/era in the top 15 for fairness sake, he makes it.

     

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    Top 15 easy. If you allow roughly the best 2 or 3 players per decade/era in the top 15 for fairness sake, he makes it.

     

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  • #1045630
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     If he keeps playing at the same level he is now for 5-6 more seasons he is easily top 15-20. If he adds a ring or 2 to his resume he could easily move into the top 10. It’s early to project right now, but he is one of 2 active players right now with a legitimate chance to catch kareem on the all-time scoring list ( lebron being the other). It’s difficult to really rank him right now though against players who have already finished their careers.

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  • #1045493
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     If he keeps playing at the same level he is now for 5-6 more seasons he is easily top 15-20. If he adds a ring or 2 to his resume he could easily move into the top 10. It’s early to project right now, but he is one of 2 active players right now with a legitimate chance to catch kareem on the all-time scoring list ( lebron being the other). It’s difficult to really rank him right now though against players who have already finished their careers.

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  • #1045634
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     I think he could be Top 25.  Yeah, I would say definitely top 50.  

    Scoring titles, an MVP award, got his team to the Finals.  Olympic gold medals.  Those things help.

    On the short-list of all-time great NBA scorers.  How many non-centers were better at filling it up?  MJ, Kobe, and, now, Steph Curry may be about it.

    Probably better than John Havlicek and he is on most people’s top 25 list.

    And, why can’t KD be ahead of Elgin Baylor?  Baylor might have put up better raw stats, BUT he played in an era where you could get more raw stats — especially points and rebounds.  Elgin doesn’t have an MVP award, either.

    Comparing NBA careers, KD is probably better than Dr. J, too.  Dr. J has a championship, but he never won anything until Moses Malone showed up.

    I think that Duran’t next 3 or 4 years (which I would assume would be the rest of his prime) are very, very important.  I think he can move into the top 15 or so by then — but only if he wins AT LEAST one title.  Might need 2.  Could even need another MVP award.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045497
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     I think he could be Top 25.  Yeah, I would say definitely top 50.  

    Scoring titles, an MVP award, got his team to the Finals.  Olympic gold medals.  Those things help.

    On the short-list of all-time great NBA scorers.  How many non-centers were better at filling it up?  MJ, Kobe, and, now, Steph Curry may be about it.

    Probably better than John Havlicek and he is on most people’s top 25 list.

    And, why can’t KD be ahead of Elgin Baylor?  Baylor might have put up better raw stats, BUT he played in an era where you could get more raw stats — especially points and rebounds.  Elgin doesn’t have an MVP award, either.

    Comparing NBA careers, KD is probably better than Dr. J, too.  Dr. J has a championship, but he never won anything until Moses Malone showed up.

    I think that Duran’t next 3 or 4 years (which I would assume would be the rest of his prime) are very, very important.  I think he can move into the top 15 or so by then — but only if he wins AT LEAST one title.  Might need 2.  Could even need another MVP award.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045636
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     Durant is only 27 but he has already played 9 seasons.  He might end his prime relatively early in terms of age, but probably not in terms of years.  At a certain point it gets to be about mileage.  And, he has had years where he was really banged up.  He has also gone deep in the playoffs for a few years, and has played in a few Olympic teams in the summer.  Lots of mileage.

    Now, the guy can probably score until he is 50, and could be a guy who plays to around the age of 40 — like Kareem or Kobe.  So, by the end of his career, he can really pad his stats, especially his point totals, or 3 pointers made.  Other than that though, he is probably AT LEAST halfway through his prime.

    I think he can REALLY move up the charts if he wins a couple of rings in OKC.  If he gets 2 rings and at least 1 Finals MVP then he will be in very select company.  

    If he goes to the Warriors, I think that would limit his uspide since the team is so loaded.  He would need about 4 titles and TWO Finals MVP’s to equal what 2 rings and 1 Finals MVP trophy would mean as a member of the Thunder.

    HOWEVER, if he goes to the Warriors and they start REALLY running the table — like 4 straight titles with Durant on board, and if KD has another regular season MVP in him while helping his team to 70 plus wins every year, then that might take his upside to Top 10 ALL TIME.  Basically battling Larry Bird and even LeBron for BEST SMALL FORWARD EVER.

    In raw scoring terms, why can’t KD pass Kobe?  Kobe has the great career and the five rings but only TWO Finals MVP awards and ONE regular season MVP trophy.

    If he REALLY wants to chase MJ for the Greatest Of All Time then he might need to go to Warrior Land and go into Video Game Beast Mode.  A 4peat hasn’t been done since the Bill Russell Era.  A BIG FOUR of Steph, KD, Klay, and Draymond could DEFINITELY get that done.  Then I think that each of those Big Four’s big picture upside goes up, up, up even if overall stats get a bit deflated.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045499
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     Durant is only 27 but he has already played 9 seasons.  He might end his prime relatively early in terms of age, but probably not in terms of years.  At a certain point it gets to be about mileage.  And, he has had years where he was really banged up.  He has also gone deep in the playoffs for a few years, and has played in a few Olympic teams in the summer.  Lots of mileage.

    Now, the guy can probably score until he is 50, and could be a guy who plays to around the age of 40 — like Kareem or Kobe.  So, by the end of his career, he can really pad his stats, especially his point totals, or 3 pointers made.  Other than that though, he is probably AT LEAST halfway through his prime.

    I think he can REALLY move up the charts if he wins a couple of rings in OKC.  If he gets 2 rings and at least 1 Finals MVP then he will be in very select company.  

    If he goes to the Warriors, I think that would limit his uspide since the team is so loaded.  He would need about 4 titles and TWO Finals MVP’s to equal what 2 rings and 1 Finals MVP trophy would mean as a member of the Thunder.

    HOWEVER, if he goes to the Warriors and they start REALLY running the table — like 4 straight titles with Durant on board, and if KD has another regular season MVP in him while helping his team to 70 plus wins every year, then that might take his upside to Top 10 ALL TIME.  Basically battling Larry Bird and even LeBron for BEST SMALL FORWARD EVER.

    In raw scoring terms, why can’t KD pass Kobe?  Kobe has the great career and the five rings but only TWO Finals MVP awards and ONE regular season MVP trophy.

    If he REALLY wants to chase MJ for the Greatest Of All Time then he might need to go to Warrior Land and go into Video Game Beast Mode.  A 4peat hasn’t been done since the Bill Russell Era.  A BIG FOUR of Steph, KD, Klay, and Draymond could DEFINITELY get that done.  Then I think that each of those Big Four’s big picture upside goes up, up, up even if overall stats get a bit deflated.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045505
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     Durant, right now, is just a bit better than Alex English. He scores a lot.

    Drexler has some huge career averages, showing he could do it all, plus a championship and a couple of other finals appearances so he is much better than Durant.

    The Gervin comparison is a good one, but Durant is better than him for team success.

    Durant is great, but he has to do more than score a lot in meaningless games.  If he doesn’t do anything big in the playoffs, and he can’t get to the finals without Harden so far, then he can’t be ranked too high among the very best.

     

     

     

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    • #1045584
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       To say Durant is just a scorer is incredibly short-sighted and inaccurate. Durant is among the most talented offensive players the game has seen within the past few decades and has developed into a fantastic all-around player as well.

      Early in his career you could say he was primarily a scorer but he has greatly expanded his game since then. Not only is he a high volume scorer, but he is also an incredibly efficient one as well. He flirts with 50-40-90 every season while also being at the top or close to the league in scoring which puts him in extremely elite territory from a historical perspective.

      He has also been a much more willing and better facilator and has become an above average defender as well. There is a big difference between him and someone like Alex English, or Carmelo Anthony or Bernard king for that matter, guys who were great players but primarily scorers and not much else.

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    • #1045720
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       To say Durant is just a scorer is incredibly short-sighted and inaccurate. Durant is among the most talented offensive players the game has seen within the past few decades and has developed into a fantastic all-around player as well.

      Early in his career you could say he was primarily a scorer but he has greatly expanded his game since then. Not only is he a high volume scorer, but he is also an incredibly efficient one as well. He flirts with 50-40-90 every season while also being at the top or close to the league in scoring which puts him in extremely elite territory from a historical perspective.

      He has also been a much more willing and better facilator and has become an above average defender as well. There is a big difference between him and someone like Alex English, or Carmelo Anthony or Bernard king for that matter, guys who were great players but primarily scorers and not much else.

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     Durant, right now, is just a bit better than Alex English. He scores a lot.

    Drexler has some huge career averages, showing he could do it all, plus a championship and a couple of other finals appearances so he is much better than Durant.

    The Gervin comparison is a good one, but Durant is better than him for team success.

    Durant is great, but he has to do more than score a lot in meaningless games.  If he doesn’t do anything big in the playoffs, and he can’t get to the finals without Harden so far, then he can’t be ranked too high among the very best.

     

     

     

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  • #1045533
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    TRC1991
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    Earl Malone is arguably the worst hall of famer in NBA history 

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    TRC1991
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    Earl Malone is arguably the worst hall of famer in NBA history 

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    As of today in real life ?

    Or as of today in espn life ?

    In real life he’s not top 50 at the moment.

    Biggest upside though.

    A few rings with the warriors, what he did with the Thunder or Team USA,  potential 4th all time scorer in RS,  he could crack the top 15, 12.

     

     

     

     

     

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    As of today in real life ?

    Or as of today in espn life ?

    In real life he’s not top 50 at the moment.

    Biggest upside though.

    A few rings with the warriors, what he did with the Thunder or Team USA,  potential 4th all time scorer in RS,  he could crack the top 15, 12.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1045606
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    I think ranking anyone accurately is hard and certainly debatable. But when it’s all said and done KD should be a top 3 SF of All-time with Bird and Lebron.. He will possibly finish as a top 5 scorer All-time as well.

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    I think ranking anyone accurately is hard and certainly debatable. But when it’s all said and done KD should be a top 3 SF of All-time with Bird and Lebron.. He will possibly finish as a top 5 scorer All-time as well.

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    I know he’s a better, more skilled player in so many ways but his career is Dominic Wilkins like at the moment. As I type that realise I’m under selling him but if he called it a day now; in 20 years when people look through NBA records he would be a high scoring pereniial All Star.

    I am fully aware he’s so much more and is bound to achieve more but that is where I see him as it stands.

      

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  • #1045748
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    I know he’s a better, more skilled player in so many ways but his career is Dominic Wilkins like at the moment. As I type that realise I’m under selling him but if he called it a day now; in 20 years when people look through NBA records he would be a high scoring pereniial All Star.

    I am fully aware he’s so much more and is bound to achieve more but that is where I see him as it stands.

      

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  • #1045774
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    trelos6
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     espn had him a few spots too high. 

    DWade, Isiah, Hondo are all ahead of him at the moment. 

    Probably around 30th all time right now. 

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    trelos6
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     espn had him a few spots too high. 

    DWade, Isiah, Hondo are all ahead of him at the moment. 

    Probably around 30th all time right now. 

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  • #1045792
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    Comparing D-Wade to KD is quite interesting, KD has the better scoring average, MVP title but D-Wade has 3 championships so where they would rank all time against each other longer term will be interested.

    Most of us would put D-Wade ahead of Melo who entered the NBA at the same time as him but KD against D-Wade is an interesting one. I’m almost 50/50.

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  • #1045655
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    Comparing D-Wade to KD is quite interesting, KD has the better scoring average, MVP title but D-Wade has 3 championships so where they would rank all time against each other longer term will be interested.

    Most of us would put D-Wade ahead of Melo who entered the NBA at the same time as him but KD against D-Wade is an interesting one. I’m almost 50/50.

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  • #1045794
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    I would rank him similar to Dominique Wilkins. Great scorers that don’t have a title.

    Dominique played in the tougher era going against the great 80’s/90’s teams – Celtics, Lakers, Sixers with Malone, Barkley and Dr. J. Pistons, Knicks and Bulls. He had to go against Bird, Rodman, Pippen, Dr J in the east without much help, while Durant had Westbrook and Harden (3 x top 10 players) and still couldn’t win a championship while going against Lebron only a couple of times a year (east/west conference)

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    I would rank him similar to Dominique Wilkins. Great scorers that don’t have a title.

    Dominique played in the tougher era going against the great 80’s/90’s teams – Celtics, Lakers, Sixers with Malone, Barkley and Dr. J. Pistons, Knicks and Bulls. He had to go against Bird, Rodman, Pippen, Dr J in the east without much help, while Durant had Westbrook and Harden (3 x top 10 players) and still couldn’t win a championship while going against Lebron only a couple of times a year (east/west conference)

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    Definitely a top 30 already.

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    Definitely a top 30 already.

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     Probably top 30 RIGHT NOW, but there are a lot of guys in that range who could go either way.  

    There is MJ at the top, then about 15 guys who are arguably "TOP TEN ALL TIME".  

    Then another group of guys who have produced a ton for years, won championships, and have MVP’s.

    I can see him finishing his career somewhere just behind MJ, Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Magic, Larry Bird, LeBron, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Kobe, Oscar Robertson, and Jerry West.  So, 13?  Even an outside chance of passing Robertson and West who are a couple of sentimental favorites who didn’t really win a ton and don’t have too many MVP awards either.  

    So, the literal TOP TEN right now is Jordan, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Larry, LeBron, Shaq, Duncan, and Kobe basically in that order (give or take).

    Yeah, that would be tough to break into, but Durant’s career isn’t over yet.  

     

     

     

     

     

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     Probably top 30 RIGHT NOW, but there are a lot of guys in that range who could go either way.  

    There is MJ at the top, then about 15 guys who are arguably "TOP TEN ALL TIME".  

    Then another group of guys who have produced a ton for years, won championships, and have MVP’s.

    I can see him finishing his career somewhere just behind MJ, Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Magic, Larry Bird, LeBron, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Kobe, Oscar Robertson, and Jerry West.  So, 13?  Even an outside chance of passing Robertson and West who are a couple of sentimental favorites who didn’t really win a ton and don’t have too many MVP awards either.  

    So, the literal TOP TEN right now is Jordan, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Larry, LeBron, Shaq, Duncan, and Kobe basically in that order (give or take).

    Yeah, that would be tough to break into, but Durant’s career isn’t over yet.  

     

     

     

     

     

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