[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

They are in a position to take Buddy Hield or Domatas Sabonis who I do like BUT with Karl Anthony Towns as the Face of the Franchise now, should they consider adding a home run pick like Chriss to pair him up with?

Chriss has a ton of potential as a PF/C with his combo of length, athletism and raw offensive and defensive ability… With a little time and patient the Wolves could have a very dangerous Front Line with Chriss and Towns at the Pf and C spots

So I am the only one who can see the Wolves going big and taking the Freshman PF out of Washington? Or has anybody else looked at the possibility?

[negguaryParticipant]

I wouldn’t consider him a home run pick….upside and potential yes, but homerun is more of a sure thing, feel me?

[negguaryParticipant]

I wouldn’t consider him a home run pick….upside and potential yes, but homerun is more of a sure thing, feel me?

[negguaryParticipant]

I also don’t think they take a big when they still have money tied up in pek and dieng having upside. I think they take a guard that can potentially take over for Rubio or back him up, or a shooter like hield that can spread the floor which gives towns and wiggins enormous room to operate.

[negguaryParticipant]

I also don’t think they take a big when they still have money tied up in pek and dieng having upside. I think they take a guard that can potentially take over for Rubio or back him up, or a shooter like hield that can spread the floor which gives towns and wiggins enormous room to operate.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

All kidding aside, he’d be a Home Run in the sense they’d be taking a huge risk by taking him but with his potential to become an All Star F/C next to Towns it would be considered hitting a home run outside the Top 2 in this Draft…

Thibbs will not want a PG unless it’s Kris Dunn, I see him going 4th to Phoenix who’ll likely move Bledsoe and move Knight to the bench eventually (next season at the earliest)

Murray doesn’t play defense for a Thibbs system, and Dieng and Pekovic shouldn’t stand in the way of drafting a PF with that type of potential, although I happen to love Sabonis, Chriss’ combo of size/speed/potential is too tempting to pass on

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

All kidding aside, he’d be a Home Run in the sense they’d be taking a huge risk by taking him but with his potential to become an All Star F/C next to Towns it would be considered hitting a home run outside the Top 2 in this Draft…

Thibbs will not want a PG unless it’s Kris Dunn, I see him going 4th to Phoenix who’ll likely move Bledsoe and move Knight to the bench eventually (next season at the earliest)

Murray doesn’t play defense for a Thibbs system, and Dieng and Pekovic shouldn’t stand in the way of drafting a PF with that type of potential, although I happen to love Sabonis, Chriss’ combo of size/speed/potential is too tempting to pass on

[negguaryParticipant]

I actually love the fact that I have another die hard sixers fan on here with me…at the same time though your proposals are a little outlandish and since draft day very frequent.

[negguaryParticipant]

I actually love the fact that I have another die hard sixers fan on here with me…at the same time though your proposals are a little outlandish and since draft day very frequent.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I wouldn’t agree with that strategy. Chriss would be a huge gamble to take that high imo. Adrien Payne is a player they already have on their roster who I still think has a lot of potential as a stretch big but has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle so far. 

If I’m Minnesota, outside shooting is the biggest area of need. I’m taking either Murray or hield depending on who is available. Both seem like much more of a sure thing and would immediately address an area of need. This is a team that expects to be competitive next season.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I wouldn’t agree with that strategy. Chriss would be a huge gamble to take that high imo. Adrien Payne is a player they already have on their roster who I still think has a lot of potential as a stretch big but has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle so far. 

If I’m Minnesota, outside shooting is the biggest area of need. I’m taking either Murray or hield depending on who is available. Both seem like much more of a sure thing and would immediately address an area of need. This is a team that expects to be competitive next season.

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 Op you open my eyes! i see your point, i endeed can see him now go as high as 5 spot to the wolves, cause if he pan out he could be in today game perfect as a 4 position man and fit next to kat…

[kobyzParticipant]

 Op you open my eyes! i see your point, i endeed can see him now go as high as 5 spot to the wolves, cause if he pan out he could be in today game perfect as a 4 position man and fit next to kat…

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

In my mock draft, the T’Wolves pick is a complete wildcard. I would think their GM would draft a PF, but I could see them drafting a PG or SG. I saw Chriss play a lot last season, homeboy has plenty of upside, but it’s tough to judge a player by just one season and just a freshman at that! If I was playing T’Wolves GM, I would draft Chriss, he would be a great fit for them.

[OaktownWarriorsParticipant]

In my mock draft, the T’Wolves pick is a complete wildcard. I would think their GM would draft a PF, but I could see them drafting a PG or SG. I saw Chriss play a lot last season, homeboy has plenty of upside, but it’s tough to judge a player by just one season and just a freshman at that! If I was playing T’Wolves GM, I would draft Chriss, he would be a great fit for them.

[kdtriv01Participant]

Those that say Thibs wouldn’t want murray because of his defense have to remember that a number of bulls players weren’t defensive players either when he got there.  Murray has the potential to be great.

[kdtriv01Participant]

Those that say Thibs wouldn’t want murray because of his defense have to remember that a number of bulls players weren’t defensive players either when he got there.  Murray has the potential to be great.

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Wolves need a player like Murray to help spread the floor at #5 to help create more room for Wiggins and Kat. 

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

 The Wolves need a player like Murray to help spread the floor at #5 to help create more room for Wiggins and Kat. 

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

Tough to see Thibodeau drafted a power forward who fouls 6.5 per 40 minutes and has a defensive rebounding percentage of 11.6%. They don’t really need to make any big swings to begin with.

They probably have either Bender and Dunn at #3 and #4 on their big board and hope one of them will fall.

Also, if Bender is gone, I do see an outside chance of the Suns drafting Chriss but I don’t anything really know about their player development coaches in how they build big men. Tyson Chandler is there and that’s good but they way Len has progress hasn’t show much.

 

 

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

Tough to see Thibodeau drafted a power forward who fouls 6.5 per 40 minutes and has a defensive rebounding percentage of 11.6%. They don’t really need to make any big swings to begin with.

They probably have either Bender and Dunn at #3 and #4 on their big board and hope one of them will fall.

Also, if Bender is gone, I do see an outside chance of the Suns drafting Chriss but I don’t anything really know about their player development coaches in how they build big men. Tyson Chandler is there and that’s good but they way Len has progress hasn’t show much.

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Chriss has a long way to go and as much as I liked him as a prospect before he declared the expectations for him are starting to get a bit out of hand.

 Worst rebounding big in the draft on both ends so it isn’t just because he is a stretch big.

Bad basketball IQ and feel for the game. Horrible assist to turnover ratio and overall stance when playing defensively.

There’s a lot of work to be done with Chriss but the upside is there although I highly doubt at 5 the T-Wolves will risk drafting someone that doesn’t impact the game immediately.

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Chriss has a long way to go and as much as I liked him as a prospect before he declared the expectations for him are starting to get a bit out of hand.

 Worst rebounding big in the draft on both ends so it isn’t just because he is a stretch big.

Bad basketball IQ and feel for the game. Horrible assist to turnover ratio and overall stance when playing defensively.

There’s a lot of work to be done with Chriss but the upside is there although I highly doubt at 5 the T-Wolves will risk drafting someone that doesn’t impact the game immediately.

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Chriss would be a "swing for the fences" pick, not a Home Run pick 🙂 

In all seriousness, I just don’t see why they’d take a guy like that when Dunn, Murray and/or Bender would be on the board for them to take. 

As someone else said earlier, he’s a horrible rebounder and a bad defensive guy. That’s like the anti-Thibs type player. Now I suppose the other side of that is that he’s got offensive skills, who better than a defensive minded coach to get the defensive stuff out of him. 

I don’t think Thibs thinks that way. I think they want to either move the pick – which I’m against – or take a guy who they envision being able to help them now. For better or worse. 

I want Murray or Dunn as a Wolves fan. Chriss would be a good pick if they moved back into the 8-12 range but 5 is too rich. His upside isn’t SO big that he’d be worth that kind of flyer over a guy like Murray or Bender. 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Chriss would be a "swing for the fences" pick, not a Home Run pick 🙂 

In all seriousness, I just don’t see why they’d take a guy like that when Dunn, Murray and/or Bender would be on the board for them to take. 

As someone else said earlier, he’s a horrible rebounder and a bad defensive guy. That’s like the anti-Thibs type player. Now I suppose the other side of that is that he’s got offensive skills, who better than a defensive minded coach to get the defensive stuff out of him. 

I don’t think Thibs thinks that way. I think they want to either move the pick – which I’m against – or take a guy who they envision being able to help them now. For better or worse. 

I want Murray or Dunn as a Wolves fan. Chriss would be a good pick if they moved back into the 8-12 range but 5 is too rich. His upside isn’t SO big that he’d be worth that kind of flyer over a guy like Murray or Bender. 

 

 

 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 For those who say he’s bad rebounder and defender, no way thibs drafting him, bender is even worse at that regard and you don’t say nothing against drafting him… 

[kobyzParticipant]

 For those who say he’s bad rebounder and defender, no way thibs drafting him, bender is even worse at that regard and you don’t say nothing against drafting him… 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Is he? I haven’t been able to find any metrics that prove anything about Bender’s rebounding or lack thereof. 

Chriss on the other hand has documented issues rebounding. He’s the worst statistical rebounding forward in this draft. Check out Draft Express’ breakdown of him. They say the only forward with a worse defensive rebound rate in the last 30 years was Thad Young. 

4.1 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes. That’s not good. And it’s not like Washington had Jon Brockman eating boards this year. 

Throw in his staggeringly low assist rate, for a perimeter oriented big and I just don’t see why he’d be in play at 5. 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Is he? I haven’t been able to find any metrics that prove anything about Bender’s rebounding or lack thereof. 

Chriss on the other hand has documented issues rebounding. He’s the worst statistical rebounding forward in this draft. Check out Draft Express’ breakdown of him. They say the only forward with a worse defensive rebound rate in the last 30 years was Thad Young. 

4.1 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes. That’s not good. And it’s not like Washington had Jon Brockman eating boards this year. 

Throw in his staggeringly low assist rate, for a perimeter oriented big and I just don’t see why he’d be in play at 5. 

 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

So now he’s up to number 3 in the latest rumor…

[Hype Machine]

DX has been shooting nothing but blanks lately, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re going for a home-run hit out of desperation with Chriss at #3

I’m really starting to feel that Woj and DX have burned so many bridges along the way that agents and teams are deciding it’s better to just stay clear of them and their dirty tactics. 

If anything, Chad Ford seems to have a better reputation amongst agents than DX at this point in time and so far he seems like the only one that can get near Simmons to film shootarounds, take measurements etc.  

Also…has anyone noticed that the vertical podcast seems to be finding it really hard to attract black guests? Go through their podcast lists and you’ll notice it’s one white guy after another.

[Hype Machine]

 Clearly bumping him up to #3 is the reward for granting them access to his & Buddy Hields workout. Thats how these guys roll…

As soon as you form an allegience with a competiting site, like Simmons & Maker do, they form a grudge and write slanderous comments to hurt their stock. 

Plenty of people fall for their B.S. as well, which is why I take any opportunity I can do draw attention to their crooked ways. 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Clearly bumping him up to #3 is the reward for granting them access to his & Buddy Hields workout. Thats how these guys roll…

As soon as you form an allegience with a competiting site, like Simmons & Maker do, they form a grudge and write slanderous comments to hurt their stock. 

Plenty of people fall for their B.S. as well, which is why I take any opportunity I can do draw attention to their crooked ways. 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

DX has been shooting nothing but blanks lately, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re going for a home-run hit out of desperation with Chriss at #3

I’m really starting to feel that Woj and DX have burned so many bridges along the way that agents and teams are deciding it’s better to just stay clear of them and their dirty tactics. 

If anything, Chad Ford seems to have a better reputation amongst agents than DX at this point in time and so far he seems like the only one that can get near Simmons to film shootarounds, take measurements etc.  

Also…has anyone noticed that the vertical podcast seems to be finding it really hard to attract black guests? Go through their podcast lists and you’ll notice it’s one white guy after another.

[kobyzParticipant]

So now he’s up to number 3 in the latest rumor…

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Another poster just brought up Chriss going 5th to Minnesota and he went positive

I started the idea of Chriss going to the Wolves at 5 and went negative

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Another poster just brought up Chriss going 5th to Minnesota and he went positive

I started the idea of Chriss going to the Wolves at 5 and went negative

[HitsterParticipant]

Some major draft sites have him going to Boston at 3 which I think is too high. He’s a legit top 10 pick but more in 6-10 range IMO. I’d be surprised if a savvy Front Office guy like Danny Ainge and a bright coach like Brad Stevens would conclude Chriss is the best return they get for 3rd pick either drafting or potentially trading it.

As regards the T-Wolves – a PF or a backcourter are the likely draft targets we seem to reckon. The various scenarios have been discussed on here before so I won’t go into detail. A lot will depend who Boston and Phoenix take at 3 and 4 but whatever happens at least two out of Bender, Hield, Dunn and Murray should still be on board.

I’d fairly much expect T-Wolves to work out Chriss as will most teams in 3-10 draft range I’d think. They are comparing players, looking at little things. Just because say Boston works him out, doesn’t mean they are going to draft him.

Aran’s draft having Chriss at 8 or our ongoing mock which had him at 9, looks about right for him I feel.

[HitsterParticipant]

Some major draft sites have him going to Boston at 3 which I think is too high. He’s a legit top 10 pick but more in 6-10 range IMO. I’d be surprised if a savvy Front Office guy like Danny Ainge and a bright coach like Brad Stevens would conclude Chriss is the best return they get for 3rd pick either drafting or potentially trading it.

As regards the T-Wolves – a PF or a backcourter are the likely draft targets we seem to reckon. The various scenarios have been discussed on here before so I won’t go into detail. A lot will depend who Boston and Phoenix take at 3 and 4 but whatever happens at least two out of Bender, Hield, Dunn and Murray should still be on board.

I’d fairly much expect T-Wolves to work out Chriss as will most teams in 3-10 draft range I’d think. They are comparing players, looking at little things. Just because say Boston works him out, doesn’t mean they are going to draft him.

Aran’s draft having Chriss at 8 or our ongoing mock which had him at 9, looks about right for him I feel.

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