[valentine]

 Good players on bad teams rarely make All Star games, but when it comes to All Rookie Team awards, the opposite is the norm. People don’t care if the rookie was -1,000,000 for the season, as long as they chucked the ball and put up raw stats.

Of course it’s absurd to use total +/- as the primary measure of a rookie. But considering how much emphasis people put on a prospect’s potential to make an all star game, you would think that actually playing winning basketball would factor SOMEWHERE in the evaluation of rookies.

Here’s the not-entirely-arbitrary All Rookie Teams, as determined by total +/-

First Team

Mirotic +171

Exum +91

Smart +59

Hood +59

Elijah Milsap (Jazz again) +54

 

Second Team

Damjan Rudez (IND, 29 y.old) +35

Glenn Robinson + 27

nobody else moved the needle, +/- wise.

 

 

[Sand]

 Good post. Utah really boomed when Hood, Exum and Gobert saw an increase in minutes.

I love Mirotics intangibles too. Thats how non-stars increase plus-minus.

 

[Sand]

 Good post. Utah really boomed when Hood, Exum and Gobert saw an increase in minutes.

I love Mirotics intangibles too. Thats how non-stars increase plus-minus.

 

[T Rex]

2014-15 NBA All-Rookie Team Results
(+/-) Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 pt) Total
(-550)Andrew Wiggins Minnesota 130 — 260
(+171)Nikola Mirotic Chicago 128 2 258
(-430)Nerlens Noel Philadelphia 125 2 252
(-204)Elfrid Payton Orlando 121 8 250
(-240)Jordan Clarkson L.A. Lakers 74 52 200

Second Team
Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 pt) Total
(+59)Marcus Smart Boston 28 86 142
(-540)Zach LaVine Minnesota 22 91 135
(-178)Bojan Bogdanovic Brooklyn 7 93 107
(-6)Jusuf Nurkic Denver 3 91 97
(-271)Langston Galloway New York 7 58 72

Rodney Hood was the rookie with the most votes after that, 54. I’d say he probably deserved 2nd team at least, but Hood, Smart and Nurkic would have been first team if playing winning ball was actually valued.

[T Rex]

2014-15 NBA All-Rookie Team Results
(+/-) Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 pt) Total
(-550)Andrew Wiggins Minnesota 130 — 260
(+171)Nikola Mirotic Chicago 128 2 258
(-430)Nerlens Noel Philadelphia 125 2 252
(-204)Elfrid Payton Orlando 121 8 250
(-240)Jordan Clarkson L.A. Lakers 74 52 200

Second Team
Player Team First (2 pt) Second (1 pt) Total
(+59)Marcus Smart Boston 28 86 142
(-540)Zach LaVine Minnesota 22 91 135
(-178)Bojan Bogdanovic Brooklyn 7 93 107
(-6)Jusuf Nurkic Denver 3 91 97
(-271)Langston Galloway New York 7 58 72

Rodney Hood was the rookie with the most votes after that, 54. I’d say he probably deserved 2nd team at least, but Hood, Smart and Nurkic would have been first team if playing winning ball was actually valued.

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

 I mean, this appears to be largely a list of which rookies were on good teams.

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

 I mean, this appears to be largely a list of which rookies were on good teams.

[raybeasParticipant]

your own +/- and tell us if you think you’re the kind of poster we need starting five new threads every week.

[raybeasParticipant]

your own +/- and tell us if you think you’re the kind of poster we need starting five new threads every week.

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