[Lafferty DanielParticipant]

According to Scott Howard-Cooper from NBA.com, new NBA commish Adam Silver wants to raise the NBA age limit to 20 years old.  

In my opinion, the NBA needs to become more like MLB.  Bring the age limit back to 18 years old and restructure the D-League so every team has their own affiliate to develop young players.  Look for Silver to address the age limit and other issues during the All-Star Weekend.

"Increasing the age limit to 20 is a priority for Adam Silver. It will be a topic of discussion once the union hires an executive director."

https://twitter.com/SHowardCooper/statuses/431473814690492416

 

 

 

 

 

[ph90702]

I like the idea of using the NBA D League as a minor league system, similar to the MLB structure.  There’s no reason to put guys at the end of the bench and get no playing time when they could get playing time in the D League. 

[ph90702]

I like the idea of using the NBA D League as a minor league system, similar to the MLB structure.  There’s no reason to put guys at the end of the bench and get no playing time when they could get playing time in the D League. 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 This is a pretty awkward start for him in his first year to implement this rule already.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 This is a pretty awkward start for him in his first year to implement this rule already.

[bimirudParticipant]

… but David Stern’s protege had better make sure to entice all those young NCAA ringers to come and play in his D-League.

College basketball might be making money by having Wiggins et al gracing college campuses, but the presence of these ringers makes a total mockery of post-secondary education as these young studs stay warm for a few months before taking off to the NBA.

Funneling young studs to the D-League solves a lot of problems.

College basketball would still feature players who plan to stay 3-4 years and make a real commitment to their studies, including McDonald’s All-Americans who aren’t one-and-done (Patric Young? Keith Appling?).

Meanwhile, the ringers would go to the D-League, which can better develop these players compared to the system-oriented NCAA that can actually hurt a kid’s stock.

The D-League, which plays to mostly empty arenas now, would draw WAY more fans and can expand to 30 and even 60 teams in non-NBA markets across North America (Vancouver, anyone?).

Lastly, the uncomfortable moral dilemmas surrounding NCAA basketball will gradually disappear, especially with the looming BCS breakaway and litany of player-initiated lawsuits.

So everyone would be happy, right?

[bimirudParticipant]

… but David Stern’s protege had better make sure to entice all those young NCAA ringers to come and play in his D-League.

College basketball might be making money by having Wiggins et al gracing college campuses, but the presence of these ringers makes a total mockery of post-secondary education as these young studs stay warm for a few months before taking off to the NBA.

Funneling young studs to the D-League solves a lot of problems.

College basketball would still feature players who plan to stay 3-4 years and make a real commitment to their studies, including McDonald’s All-Americans who aren’t one-and-done (Patric Young? Keith Appling?).

Meanwhile, the ringers would go to the D-League, which can better develop these players compared to the system-oriented NCAA that can actually hurt a kid’s stock.

The D-League, which plays to mostly empty arenas now, would draw WAY more fans and can expand to 30 and even 60 teams in non-NBA markets across North America (Vancouver, anyone?).

Lastly, the uncomfortable moral dilemmas surrounding NCAA basketball will gradually disappear, especially with the looming BCS breakaway and litany of player-initiated lawsuits.

So everyone would be happy, right?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Go to college for 2 years or go to the DLeague for 2 years.  Prospects could either go for the money or for the education.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Go to college for 2 years or go to the DLeague for 2 years.  Prospects could either go for the money or for the education.

[DolanCareParticipant]

The NBA is a great league that has many problems that need to be addressed. Raising the age limit is not even close to the top of priorities.

Does the NBA need to see the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Davis’ of world held back another year in order to increase the quality of the league?? Not really. 

Does the NBA need to address tanking, the use of replay, ticky-tack foul calls and the East/West disparity?? I think the answer is yes. 

I even heard buzz about making the court bigger- especially in terms of width some corner shooters have more space. This concept would do wonders in opening up the court and making the game more guard oriented. Now this would be a drastic change to the game and should be thought through seriously. Either way, it is a move to actually add to the game… more so than raising the age limit. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

The NBA is a great league that has many problems that need to be addressed. Raising the age limit is not even close to the top of priorities.

Does the NBA need to see the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Davis’ of world held back another year in order to increase the quality of the league?? Not really. 

Does the NBA need to address tanking, the use of replay, ticky-tack foul calls and the East/West disparity?? I think the answer is yes. 

I even heard buzz about making the court bigger- especially in terms of width some corner shooters have more space. This concept would do wonders in opening up the court and making the game more guard oriented. Now this would be a drastic change to the game and should be thought through seriously. Either way, it is a move to actually add to the game… more so than raising the age limit. 

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

I already dislike Silver. >:[

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

I already dislike Silver. >:[

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 Would we see more players be 5th year high school seniors like Wall so they only need to go to college 1 year?

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 Would we see more players be 5th year high school seniors like Wall so they only need to go to college 1 year?

[frogmanParticipant]

Nope, nationally recognised basketball players would rather another year of their pick of sorority girls.

[frogmanParticipant]

Nope, nationally recognised basketball players would rather another year of their pick of sorority girls.

[HaleParticipant]

I hate that age limit rule. You should be able to enter out of high school. Although the ideas in this thread are pretty solid so maybe the NBA could implement something similar.

[HaleParticipant]

I hate that age limit rule. You should be able to enter out of high school. Although the ideas in this thread are pretty solid so maybe the NBA could implement something similar.

[GabnosisParticipant]

They should let high schoolers go straight to the NBA. Many McDonald All-American, went to college, maybe the wrong one, didn’t have the mental toughness required, or just enjoyed campus’s life, parties, girls, and didnt focus enough on their main goal: Basketball.

I have two players who WERE BEAST back then, like Renardo Sidney (Where is he?) and Jerryd Bayless, these 2 are exemples off how the college game/life can affect their potential. I always thought Bayless was going to be a 20ppg type of player but…

Anyway, I miss these days, when we were seeing young guns like, Kobe, T-Mac, Josh Smith, LeBron etc making the jump.

[GabnosisParticipant]

They should let high schoolers go straight to the NBA. Many McDonald All-American, went to college, maybe the wrong one, didn’t have the mental toughness required, or just enjoyed campus’s life, parties, girls, and didnt focus enough on their main goal: Basketball.

I have two players who WERE BEAST back then, like Renardo Sidney (Where is he?) and Jerryd Bayless, these 2 are exemples off how the college game/life can affect their potential. I always thought Bayless was going to be a 20ppg type of player but…

Anyway, I miss these days, when we were seeing young guns like, Kobe, T-Mac, Josh Smith, LeBron etc making the jump.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I would let players enter the draft whenever they wanted (even after high school) but go to college for two years.  Even guys like Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, and Julius Randle could use an extra year in college.  

I will give you this: Marcus Smart thought about leaving after last year and even commented that he probably left money on the table.  What if he declared last year, got picked at 2 by the Magic and then still came back to school?  His NBA contract would go into effect once he left college (probably after this season).

Or what about the Cavs last season? What if they could have drafted Wiggins or Parker or Randle with the first pick?  Better to wait on one of those guys a couple of years instead of drafting Anthony Bennett who is currently looking like a bust?

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I would let players enter the draft whenever they wanted (even after high school) but go to college for two years.  Even guys like Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, and Julius Randle could use an extra year in college.  

I will give you this: Marcus Smart thought about leaving after last year and even commented that he probably left money on the table.  What if he declared last year, got picked at 2 by the Magic and then still came back to school?  His NBA contract would go into effect once he left college (probably after this season).

Or what about the Cavs last season? What if they could have drafted Wiggins or Parker or Randle with the first pick?  Better to wait on one of those guys a couple of years instead of drafting Anthony Bennett who is currently looking like a bust?

 

 

[Ghost01Participant]

 The age limit is pointless. Some players are ready for the NBA and should be allowed to come. If you are sick of players declaring who aren’t ready, DON’T PICK THEM! Duhhh.

[Ghost01Participant]

 The age limit is pointless. Some players are ready for the NBA and should be allowed to come. If you are sick of players declaring who aren’t ready, DON’T PICK THEM! Duhhh.

[ph90702]

The players coming out after one or two years are the best players in the draft.  By not picking them, teams would only be hurting themselves.   It’s not as easy as you’re saying. 

[ph90702]

The players coming out after one or two years are the best players in the draft.  By not picking them, teams would only be hurting themselves.   It’s not as easy as you’re saying. 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I think you miss the point of the age limit.  The age limit isn’t for those 5-star players that will eventually get to the NBA, but those borderline players that are never going to make it.

Sure, we look at Anthony Davis and John Wall and think, these guys could have came straight out of high school, but there are so many players that signed an agent, went to workouts, entered the draft and went undrafted.  

And since they had hired an agent, they cannot go to college and get a, basically, free education.  The age limit isn’t for the John Wall’s and LeBron James’ of the world but for the nameless and unknown players that blew a chance at a scholarship on a wing and a prayer.

Only 3 of every 100 Div1-3 players will ever make the NBA, only 20% of those players will make an impact and have a solid 8-12 year career.  Meaning about 0.5% will be able to call the NBA a career.

The age limit is for the other 99.5% of individuals that aren’t going to be able to call the NBA an actual stable career.  The age limit is for those players that aren’t going to make enough money to last them an entire lifetime.  

Another fact, 80% of NBA players go broke 5 years after leaving the league.  The age limit is for those 80% that go broke, so that they’ll have an education and degree to fall back on so they won’t have to sell everything and work 60hrs a week at a $12/hr job to make ends meet.

The age limit is for the ones that aren’t ready.  It’s for those that don’t have any other skill outside of basketball and would suffer in the real world.  The age limit is for those kids that bet their entire career and last 15 years of work on one chance without anything to fall back on.  The age limit isn’t for LeBron James, it’s for Jordin Mayes, who will never make the NBA but because he got a scholarship, he now has a 4-year degree from the University of Arizona.  It’s for Tyler Lamb, who inspite of being highly touted out of high school, will never make it to the NBA, but he too has a 4 year degree.

The age limit is there for the other 99.5%, not Kobe and LeBron.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I think you miss the point of the age limit.  The age limit isn’t for those 5-star players that will eventually get to the NBA, but those borderline players that are never going to make it.

Sure, we look at Anthony Davis and John Wall and think, these guys could have came straight out of high school, but there are so many players that signed an agent, went to workouts, entered the draft and went undrafted.  

And since they had hired an agent, they cannot go to college and get a, basically, free education.  The age limit isn’t for the John Wall’s and LeBron James’ of the world but for the nameless and unknown players that blew a chance at a scholarship on a wing and a prayer.

Only 3 of every 100 Div1-3 players will ever make the NBA, only 20% of those players will make an impact and have a solid 8-12 year career.  Meaning about 0.5% will be able to call the NBA a career.

The age limit is for the other 99.5% of individuals that aren’t going to be able to call the NBA an actual stable career.  The age limit is for those players that aren’t going to make enough money to last them an entire lifetime.  

Another fact, 80% of NBA players go broke 5 years after leaving the league.  The age limit is for those 80% that go broke, so that they’ll have an education and degree to fall back on so they won’t have to sell everything and work 60hrs a week at a $12/hr job to make ends meet.

The age limit is for the ones that aren’t ready.  It’s for those that don’t have any other skill outside of basketball and would suffer in the real world.  The age limit is for those kids that bet their entire career and last 15 years of work on one chance without anything to fall back on.  The age limit isn’t for LeBron James, it’s for Jordin Mayes, who will never make the NBA but because he got a scholarship, he now has a 4-year degree from the University of Arizona.  It’s for Tyler Lamb, who inspite of being highly touted out of high school, will never make it to the NBA, but he too has a 4 year degree.

The age limit is there for the other 99.5%, not Kobe and LeBron.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 I ran the numbers on success rate in the NBA between players that were drafted out of high school, and players drafted after one year of college.  Same success rate.  Doesn’t take very long.  Go look from 1995 to whatever year they implemented the one and done rule.

 

And the thing about going broke, there are these professionals in the world called financial advisors.  All it takes is one simple phone call, a sit down, and a plan.  College or not, if these dudes are too stupid to figure out what to do with millions of dollars in terms of being set after their career, then nothing can help them.  All of the high profile cases of broke former NBA players attended college.  Please post where you read about 80% of players going broke after 5 years, because I don’t believe it.

 

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 I ran the numbers on success rate in the NBA between players that were drafted out of high school, and players drafted after one year of college.  Same success rate.  Doesn’t take very long.  Go look from 1995 to whatever year they implemented the one and done rule.

 

And the thing about going broke, there are these professionals in the world called financial advisors.  All it takes is one simple phone call, a sit down, and a plan.  College or not, if these dudes are too stupid to figure out what to do with millions of dollars in terms of being set after their career, then nothing can help them.  All of the high profile cases of broke former NBA players attended college.  Please post where you read about 80% of players going broke after 5 years, because I don’t believe it.

 

 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I’m not saying that keeping players in college will cause a higher success rate, never did I say that.  I am stating that if a player fails, they have something to fall back on.  Whatever the success rate, run the numbers on the players that failed to make the NBA and how many of them were able to start a career with their degree or college education. 

Compare the players from 2000-2005 and 2007-2012 and let me know.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I’m not saying that keeping players in college will cause a higher success rate, never did I say that.  I am stating that if a player fails, they have something to fall back on.  Whatever the success rate, run the numbers on the players that failed to make the NBA and how many of them were able to start a career with their degree or college education. 

Compare the players from 2000-2005 and 2007-2012 and let me know.

[frogmanParticipant]

"Another fact, 80% of NBA players go broke 5 years after leaving the league."

What?  Where did you see/read this?  Seems unrealistic.

 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Ah, after further research, the number is actually 60% for NBA players. 80% was for NFL players, always get that confused. Regardless, 60% of NBA players going broke 5 years after leaving the league is still a ridiculous number.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=7774458

http://www.gq.com/sports/guides/201204/athletes-millionaires-bankrupt-spending#ixzz1qvEy4nPX

http://www.munknee.com/78-of-nfl-players-go-bankrupt-within-5-years/

http://www.examiner.com/article/70-of-top-athletes-go-broke-what-parents-can-learn-and-teach-to-their-teens

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Ah, after further research, the number is actually 60% for NBA players. 80% was for NFL players, always get that confused. Regardless, 60% of NBA players going broke 5 years after leaving the league is still a ridiculous number.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=7774458

http://www.gq.com/sports/guides/201204/athletes-millionaires-bankrupt-spending#ixzz1qvEy4nPX

http://www.munknee.com/78-of-nfl-players-go-bankrupt-within-5-years/

http://www.examiner.com/article/70-of-top-athletes-go-broke-what-parents-can-learn-and-teach-to-their-teens

[frogmanParticipant]

"Another fact, 80% of NBA players go broke 5 years after leaving the league."

What?  Where did you see/read this?  Seems unrealistic.

 

[HaleParticipant]

I know you weren’t responding to me but I understand why the rule is in place. I just think that there should be exceptions for the elite few who are wasting their time in college. Guys like John Wall, Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, and Anthony Davis should have been allowed to enter out of high school.

[HaleParticipant]

I know you weren’t responding to me but I understand why the rule is in place. I just think that there should be exceptions for the elite few who are wasting their time in college. Guys like John Wall, Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, and Anthony Davis should have been allowed to enter out of high school.

[thparadoxParticipant]

If Silver raises the age limit, my prediction is that some European teams will start to take American high school prospects more seriously.

All it takes is one respectable European team to commit to giving them playing time and touches, and some of the elite prospects will be over in Europe.

Mess with the incentives and that’s what will happen

[thparadoxParticipant]

If Silver raises the age limit, my prediction is that some European teams will start to take American high school prospects more seriously.

All it takes is one respectable European team to commit to giving them playing time and touches, and some of the elite prospects will be over in Europe.

Mess with the incentives and that’s what will happen

[Sewok15Participant]

All this does is help the NCAA. I wouldn’t mind seeing guys like Wiggins and Parker playing two years but it is pretty ridiculous if you think about it.

[Sewok15Participant]

All this does is help the NCAA. I wouldn’t mind seeing guys like Wiggins and Parker playing two years but it is pretty ridiculous if you think about it.

[chrisinozParticipant]

 What I cant understand is Exum is basically coming from High school straight to the NBA. Why is this any different for an American High school senior??

[chrisinozParticipant]

 What I cant understand is Exum is basically coming from High school straight to the NBA. Why is this any different for an American High school senior??

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What if guys could declare for the NBA draft after high school?  Or after their freshman year and still come back to school?  They play for two years and then become NBA rookies.

Last year’s draft would have looked more like this:

1. Cavs — Andrew Wiggins

2. Magic — Marcus Smart

3. Washington — Jabari Parker

4. Charlotte — Victor Oladipo

5. Phoenix — Anthony Bennett

 

Instead, this was the top of the draft:

1. Cavs — Anthony Bennett

2. Magic — Victor Oladipo

3. Washington — Otto Porter

4. Charlotte — Cody Zeller

5. Phoenix — Alex Len

 

This year’s draft wouldn’t be as good, but you would still have Joel Embiid as the top guy with Dante Exum as a top five player along with guys like Aaron Gordon, Rodney Hood, James Young, Gary Harris, and Doug McDermott (I am assuming that Julius Randle declared after high school).

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

What if guys could declare for the NBA draft after high school?  Or after their freshman year and still come back to school?  They play for two years and then become NBA rookies.

Last year’s draft would have looked more like this:

1. Cavs — Andrew Wiggins

2. Magic — Marcus Smart

3. Washington — Jabari Parker

4. Charlotte — Victor Oladipo

5. Phoenix — Anthony Bennett

 

Instead, this was the top of the draft:

1. Cavs — Anthony Bennett

2. Magic — Victor Oladipo

3. Washington — Otto Porter

4. Charlotte — Cody Zeller

5. Phoenix — Alex Len

 

This year’s draft wouldn’t be as good, but you would still have Joel Embiid as the top guy with Dante Exum as a top five player along with guys like Aaron Gordon, Rodney Hood, James Young, Gary Harris, and Doug McDermott (I am assuming that Julius Randle declared after high school).

 

[Bmore_DCParticipant]

Good thing Marcus Smart returned to school to mature…

[Bmore_DCParticipant]

Good thing Marcus Smart returned to school to mature…

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