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  • #61986
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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     The 76ers nearly stole another game this week only to lose it in the final 2 minutes, they are in dire need of a win and would of had a few already this year if they had a decent PG!!!

    IMO, they need to fill this hole next season, they desperately need to improve at the position even if/when Marshall and Wroten return… 

    They really need to target a PG in the draft, Jamal Murray looks like the perfect fit if we missed out on the Top Pick(Which is always likely when you’re the worst team in The NBA)

    Jamal Murray has to be the Prospect we target with our own pick IF we end up with any other pick but #1, has to be…

    I would also make some trades, we can get a guy like Ty Lawson with the OKC or Miami pick, we need a veteran to start a year or 2 before Jamal takes over…

    I would CUT McConnell, Marshall, Canaan and Thompson

    I wouldn’t pay Tony Wroten more than 5-7 million as a 6th man, if he has to start for us next year we’ll be in trouble…

    I would make Harrison Barnes my top Free Agent target in the Summer, I would seriously over pay if I had to just to make sure he’s our SF next year…

    I would hope and pray the Lakers pick lands outside the Top 3, if it does then I would draft Brandon Ingram to develop at SG, Stauskas can start until Ingram gains a few pounds and gets comfortable in the NBA…

    I think a few respectible players on the perimeter would make huge difference for Noel and Okafor, it should all start with a player like Simmons(Best Case) or Murray(Worst Case)

    Saric would help us greatly too, we just need smart players that can get the ball in the post to Jahlil, he’s the perfect player to have if we miss out on Simmons, he can fill that point forward role that Ben would play if we drafted him, I’m almost betting on us missing out on Simmons so Saric is my plan A backup PF for next year 

    I really want to see us start

     Murray, Stauskas, Barnes, Noel and Okafor 

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    Wroten, Ingram, Covington, Saric and Embiid, Jeremi Grant would get some minutes here and there but only if he can prove to be a lock down defender, I’m open to add a PG like Lawson if we can get him for that Thunder/Heat pick late in the 1st…

    I’m tired of the losing but I see the light at the end of the tunnel, with improved guard play we would be much better than we are TODAY, which is terrible…

    I DON’T WANT A MIRACLE, I just want a PG like Murray and SF like Barnes, add Brandon Ingram to the mix with the Lakers pick and I’d be very happy…

    None of these request/ideas are far fetched, I just want the misery to end next year…

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1027197
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    Reptilian Monk
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     New team name, The Philadelphia 6-76’ers

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    Reptilian Monk
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     New team name, The Philadelphia 6-76’ers

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    • #1027199
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      Absolutely brilliant!

      From now on, they shall be known as the 6-76ers

       

        

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    • #1027065
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      trelos6
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      Absolutely brilliant!

      From now on, they shall be known as the 6-76ers

       

        

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      • #1027087
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        river09
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         Is 6 wins being a little too optimistic? 

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      • #1027221
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        river09
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         Is 6 wins being a little too optimistic? 

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  • #1027202
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     I have to say Boston did not deserve to win that game.  After being blown out by Brooklyn and Atlanta, they still came out tonight against Philly with no energy.  

    As for Philly, I get that Hinke wants to draft top talent but it must be depressing for the players and coaching staff to not have a legit roster to compete against NBA teams on a nightly basis.  That is the 26th straight loss for Philly dating back to last season.  They are also 2 losses away from tying the worst start ever.  This upcoming draft and offseason needs to be where Hinke puts together a team with real NBA players from top to bottom.  

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  • #1027068
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     I have to say Boston did not deserve to win that game.  After being blown out by Brooklyn and Atlanta, they still came out tonight against Philly with no energy.  

    As for Philly, I get that Hinke wants to draft top talent but it must be depressing for the players and coaching staff to not have a legit roster to compete against NBA teams on a nightly basis.  That is the 26th straight loss for Philly dating back to last season.  They are also 2 losses away from tying the worst start ever.  This upcoming draft and offseason needs to be where Hinke puts together a team with real NBA players from top to bottom.  

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    • #1027205
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       Also did they not feed Okafor on the last possession down 2?  Phil Pressey should not be taking that shot to try and tie the game.  

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    • #1027071
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       Also did they not feed Okafor on the last possession down 2?  Phil Pressey should not be taking that shot to try and tie the game.  

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  • #1027072
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     Problem is I don’t think even with overpaying you could lure a guy like Harrison Barnes to Philly. Its going to take a few years to rid the stink that the front office has created over the organisation with all this tanking and for free agents to be comfortable going there over other locales. 

    I would look at flipping some picks into some roation players- move some of those picks to Atlanta for Dennis Shroeder perhaps, or as mentioned above target Ty Lawson. However with how Lawson has established himself as a bad locker room guy so far in his career, I’m not sure you want him getting near the young guys Philly have, especially already volatile guys like Embiid. Could be a recipe for disaster. 

    In the draft, I’d be looking at Jamaal Murray, or if they are intent on going best player available, grabbing Ben with the top pick and picking a guy like Demetrius Jackson with the OKC or Miami pick in the 12-20 range.

    The biggest issue they have so far has been quite evidently their guard play, they need to start flipping some of their assets for a quality point.

     

     

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  • #1027207
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     Problem is I don’t think even with overpaying you could lure a guy like Harrison Barnes to Philly. Its going to take a few years to rid the stink that the front office has created over the organisation with all this tanking and for free agents to be comfortable going there over other locales. 

    I would look at flipping some picks into some roation players- move some of those picks to Atlanta for Dennis Shroeder perhaps, or as mentioned above target Ty Lawson. However with how Lawson has established himself as a bad locker room guy so far in his career, I’m not sure you want him getting near the young guys Philly have, especially already volatile guys like Embiid. Could be a recipe for disaster. 

    In the draft, I’d be looking at Jamaal Murray, or if they are intent on going best player available, grabbing Ben with the top pick and picking a guy like Demetrius Jackson with the OKC or Miami pick in the 12-20 range.

    The biggest issue they have so far has been quite evidently their guard play, they need to start flipping some of their assets for a quality point.

     

     

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  • #1027076
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     to feed the Beast in the Post!?!?!? The Sixers have had leads in Each of their last 3 games….. The Final 5 minutes of each of those games turned into a half court slug fest…… And the Sixers in each case had the Best post player in the arena on ALL 3 occassions…..

    Yet mysteriously Okafor stops getting the ball in the 4th quarter…. Okafor was outstanding again tonight…. He could have Easily scored 30+ points…. 19 points, 9 rebounds & 4 blocks…. & yet, in the 4th qtr he Barely touches the ball…. It’s Mind Boggling….. 

     

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    • #1027357
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       7/17 for the game

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       7/17 for the game

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  • #1027211
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     to feed the Beast in the Post!?!?!? The Sixers have had leads in Each of their last 3 games….. The Final 5 minutes of each of those games turned into a half court slug fest…… And the Sixers in each case had the Best post player in the arena on ALL 3 occassions…..

    Yet mysteriously Okafor stops getting the ball in the 4th quarter…. Okafor was outstanding again tonight…. He could have Easily scored 30+ points…. 19 points, 9 rebounds & 4 blocks…. & yet, in the 4th qtr he Barely touches the ball…. It’s Mind Boggling….. 

     

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  • #1027099
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    Everyone says that if you get the #1 pick, you HAVE to go with Simmons, so if the 6-76ers land the first pick, who do they trade. I mean, you’ve got Noel and Okafor, and then you have Embiid playing next year, hopefully. And then Dario Saric comes over next year as well. Who do you get rid of? Because all those guys as well as Ben Simmons can play the 4. And then Embiid, Noel, and Okafor can play the 5 as well. So, my question is, even though I’ll probably get negged, is picking up Jamal Murray with the 1st pick that bad with the Sixers? Or maybe you trade the #1 pick. (More negs) You could land yourself some very nice players if you land the #1 pick. Possibly a point guard and a shooting guard for the future. Anyways, do you really want Simmons on that team. Is he worth trading one of those big guys and screwing up the chemistry they already have? What do you Sixers fans think?

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    • #1027117
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       You take best player available, plain and simple.  All these pieces are pawns on a chess board for Hinkie.  Guys will be moved.  We are big dealers around the trade deadline and on draft day.  If you happen to land the #1 pick you dont take the need, rather you take the guy who has the greatest potential and to me thats Ben Simmons without a doubt.  If we were to get the #1 pick, I think Hinkie might consider speeding up the process and using some of our current roster and draft picks to try and acquire another talented guard or wing scorer to place alongside Simmons.  Just going to depend on that Lakers pick playing out for us.

       

       
      Now it’s a different question if we don’t happen to get the #1 pick.  I really feel Simmons is head and shoulders the most talented player in this draft and so if you miss that top pick, you could trade down or use your strategy above and take Murray.  I’m more of Jaylen Brown guy but I’ll continue to watch basketball and form an opinion as guys get more comfortable on this collegiate level. Love Murrays game but feels he’s truly left hand dominant and wish he had more of a right hand game.  

       I’m actually a huge fan of Demetrius Jackson (Notre Dame), who I think we could get with one of our later picks in the first round if we happen to missout on Dunn or Murray or don’t make a trade for a quality veteran.

       

      Sorry for dragging this out.  But I feel this is the year where Hinkie finall gathers all his assests and starts to put together the roster of the future.  Not really going out on a limb with this comment but we’ll see some big trades come Draft time and the trade deadline.  Get ya popcorn ready. 

       

       

       
       

       

       

       

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      • #1027182
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         Simmons goes 1st to whom ever is drafting. If the Sixers pick 2nd, Jaylen Brown seems like a guy who can get things done on day 1 or they can take Ingram if they don’t mind taking some time. It’s the Sixers so they might just take Skal, another center, just piss everybody off. 

        If they get the Lakers pick at 4 or beyond, Murray is a great target. He’s another guy who gets things done. His versatility, type of scoring, and muscling to the rack reminds me of Justice Winslow (but with a better handle). I don’t think he’s a PG, he’s a 2. His body type can get super strong, leaving him too top heavy to guard the NBA PG’s. It’s not that he couldn’t be a PG, but he already bullies his way to the rack and it’d be smarter to play that up. 

        I don’t see a top 7 PG out there. I’m sure someone will creep up, I just don’t know who. 

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      • #1027317
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         Simmons goes 1st to whom ever is drafting. If the Sixers pick 2nd, Jaylen Brown seems like a guy who can get things done on day 1 or they can take Ingram if they don’t mind taking some time. It’s the Sixers so they might just take Skal, another center, just piss everybody off. 

        If they get the Lakers pick at 4 or beyond, Murray is a great target. He’s another guy who gets things done. His versatility, type of scoring, and muscling to the rack reminds me of Justice Winslow (but with a better handle). I don’t think he’s a PG, he’s a 2. His body type can get super strong, leaving him too top heavy to guard the NBA PG’s. It’s not that he couldn’t be a PG, but he already bullies his way to the rack and it’d be smarter to play that up. 

        I don’t see a top 7 PG out there. I’m sure someone will creep up, I just don’t know who. 

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    • #1027251
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       You take best player available, plain and simple.  All these pieces are pawns on a chess board for Hinkie.  Guys will be moved.  We are big dealers around the trade deadline and on draft day.  If you happen to land the #1 pick you dont take the need, rather you take the guy who has the greatest potential and to me thats Ben Simmons without a doubt.  If we were to get the #1 pick, I think Hinkie might consider speeding up the process and using some of our current roster and draft picks to try and acquire another talented guard or wing scorer to place alongside Simmons.  Just going to depend on that Lakers pick playing out for us.

       

       
      Now it’s a different question if we don’t happen to get the #1 pick.  I really feel Simmons is head and shoulders the most talented player in this draft and so if you miss that top pick, you could trade down or use your strategy above and take Murray.  I’m more of Jaylen Brown guy but I’ll continue to watch basketball and form an opinion as guys get more comfortable on this collegiate level. Love Murrays game but feels he’s truly left hand dominant and wish he had more of a right hand game.  

       I’m actually a huge fan of Demetrius Jackson (Notre Dame), who I think we could get with one of our later picks in the first round if we happen to missout on Dunn or Murray or don’t make a trade for a quality veteran.

       

      Sorry for dragging this out.  But I feel this is the year where Hinkie finall gathers all his assests and starts to put together the roster of the future.  Not really going out on a limb with this comment but we’ll see some big trades come Draft time and the trade deadline.  Get ya popcorn ready. 

       

       

       
       

       

       

       

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    • #1027123
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      First off some teams would pay a small fortune to move up to number 1 to pick up Simmons.

      Second off Embiid hasn’t even played a game yet and they haven’t won in like 26 games now so would be breaking up this ‘chemistry’ really be the wrost thing?

      Third off they will take Simmons with the first overall pick if they get it so this is all moot.

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    • #1027257
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      First off some teams would pay a small fortune to move up to number 1 to pick up Simmons.

      Second off Embiid hasn’t even played a game yet and they haven’t won in like 26 games now so would be breaking up this ‘chemistry’ really be the wrost thing?

      Third off they will take Simmons with the first overall pick if they get it so this is all moot.

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  • #1027233
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    Everyone says that if you get the #1 pick, you HAVE to go with Simmons, so if the 6-76ers land the first pick, who do they trade. I mean, you’ve got Noel and Okafor, and then you have Embiid playing next year, hopefully. And then Dario Saric comes over next year as well. Who do you get rid of? Because all those guys as well as Ben Simmons can play the 4. And then Embiid, Noel, and Okafor can play the 5 as well. So, my question is, even though I’ll probably get negged, is picking up Jamal Murray with the 1st pick that bad with the Sixers? Or maybe you trade the #1 pick. (More negs) You could land yourself some very nice players if you land the #1 pick. Possibly a point guard and a shooting guard for the future. Anyways, do you really want Simmons on that team. Is he worth trading one of those big guys and screwing up the chemistry they already have? What do you Sixers fans think?

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  • #1027103
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     As a Sixer season ticket holder I have multiple issues with the original post.

    1.Trading anything for Ty Lawson, let alone a 1st rounder. Lawson is playing badly this year, has some recent off court trouble, some health questions, and a less than desirable contract. Not the type of guy the team needs.

    2.Cutting Marshall, McConnell, Canaan, and Thompson. Marshall had a decent past couple of years. He was only a bargain FA because of the knee. If he’s 100% I expect good things after seeing what the less talented Ish Smith did for the team last year. McConnell isn’t someone to be cut, he’s potentially a usable guy going forward but of course in a reduced role. Hollis Thompson could be a rotation player in the league. Canaan I agree doesn’t belong since he’s not a PG and not an NBA caliber SG.

    3.The team is awful but look how bad they were last year in the first 17 games then how they finished. It all changed when Ish came. A true pass first PG who can create for teammates changed everything. Offense for going and Nerlens got much better. Let’s wait and see what Marshall does.

    4.Next year will be a different story no matter what happens with Embiid and Dario. We will add at least one of Murray, Ingram, or Simmons and possibly 2 out of them and Brown.

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    • #1027113
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       Noel is legit… & you have some nice draft picks plus Embiid & Saric to look forward to next year….. I know losing these close games is tearing your guts out – especially when Okafor never touches the ball down the stretch…. but you guys have will turn the corner next season…. 

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    • #1027247
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       Noel is legit… & you have some nice draft picks plus Embiid & Saric to look forward to next year….. I know losing these close games is tearing your guts out – especially when Okafor never touches the ball down the stretch…. but you guys have will turn the corner next season…. 

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    • #1027119
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      Of the guys mentioned above, I think Marshall may be the only one to keep and then depends on him returning fully health from this injury.  I like McConnell and gives you toughness and he just does just about everything (except score). 

      But this roster will look completely different come next season.  I mean someone has to be cut to make room for these draft picks and trades that are coming. 

       

       

       

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    • #1027253
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      Of the guys mentioned above, I think Marshall may be the only one to keep and then depends on him returning fully health from this injury.  I like McConnell and gives you toughness and he just does just about everything (except score). 

      But this roster will look completely different come next season.  I mean someone has to be cut to make room for these draft picks and trades that are coming. 

       

       

       

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    • #1027359
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      2013 … "Next year"

      2014 … "Next year"

      2015 … "Next year"

       

       

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      2013 … "Next year"

      2014 … "Next year"

      2015 … "Next year"

       

       

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  • #1027237
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     As a Sixer season ticket holder I have multiple issues with the original post.

    1.Trading anything for Ty Lawson, let alone a 1st rounder. Lawson is playing badly this year, has some recent off court trouble, some health questions, and a less than desirable contract. Not the type of guy the team needs.

    2.Cutting Marshall, McConnell, Canaan, and Thompson. Marshall had a decent past couple of years. He was only a bargain FA because of the knee. If he’s 100% I expect good things after seeing what the less talented Ish Smith did for the team last year. McConnell isn’t someone to be cut, he’s potentially a usable guy going forward but of course in a reduced role. Hollis Thompson could be a rotation player in the league. Canaan I agree doesn’t belong since he’s not a PG and not an NBA caliber SG.

    3.The team is awful but look how bad they were last year in the first 17 games then how they finished. It all changed when Ish came. A true pass first PG who can create for teammates changed everything. Offense for going and Nerlens got much better. Let’s wait and see what Marshall does.

    4.Next year will be a different story no matter what happens with Embiid and Dario. We will add at least one of Murray, Ingram, or Simmons and possibly 2 out of them and Brown.

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  • #1027137
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    never over paying a guy like Harrison whose asking the Warriors for 100 million plus! So imagine what he’ll ask from us! Furthermore, why pay a guy like him 100 plus mill when you can draft a guy just like him and get him on the cheapest contract in the NBA, rookie contract. I.E jayeln brown, Ben Simmons. It also gives you more flexibility when it’s time to pay your other young guys and it gives the young guys the chance to build together. Don’t get me wrong I’m huge on Harrison and still think that guy he was supposed to be its waiting to break out but I’m not overpaying him when I can draft a stud. I do like the Dennis Schroeder trade idea. 

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    never over paying a guy like Harrison whose asking the Warriors for 100 million plus! So imagine what he’ll ask from us! Furthermore, why pay a guy like him 100 plus mill when you can draft a guy just like him and get him on the cheapest contract in the NBA, rookie contract. I.E jayeln brown, Ben Simmons. It also gives you more flexibility when it’s time to pay your other young guys and it gives the young guys the chance to build together. Don’t get me wrong I’m huge on Harrison and still think that guy he was supposed to be its waiting to break out but I’m not overpaying him when I can draft a stud. I do like the Dennis Schroeder trade idea. 

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  • #1027139
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    never pick up a guy like Ty Lawson who couldn’t be a good leader on a subpar Denver team last year! It doesn’t make sense to add a guy like that who is not overpaid bit is getting paid when you can go through the draft and get a guy you can truly build with. Now if it was a Lin Andre Miller type guy, cool but he’s not that and he’s not even that good to cause all of those problems for.  

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    never pick up a guy like Ty Lawson who couldn’t be a good leader on a subpar Denver team last year! It doesn’t make sense to add a guy like that who is not overpaid bit is getting paid when you can go through the draft and get a guy you can truly build with. Now if it was a Lin Andre Miller type guy, cool but he’s not that and he’s not even that good to cause all of those problems for.  

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  • #1027145
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    I’ve suggested Schroeder for the 76ers before so I naturally like that idea but I doubt any deal would be done before the end of the season. The Hawks are win now so would be reluctant to give up Schroeder even if it was for a potentially high pick and Sam Hinkie I’d guess would want to keep his draft options open until he knows exactly what picks he will get next summer and where they fall.

    If Philly couldn’t get Schroeder and cannot draft a PG then ideally they target an established pass first PG who can create for all the young talent. I notice that Rondo is playing well again in Sac-Town, he has his title so doesn’t need to chase one as such and is only on a one year deal. The chance to create for a lot of young studs might appeal to someone like Rondo.

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    • #1027339
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       Man, they’d have to pay for Schroeder. Since they are in win now mode, Sixers might have to give up Noel. I don’t think the Sixers would do that and even still, would that bring the Hawks more wins? They’ve got some good big guys and only Shelvin Mack is their backup PG. I just don’t see how they get Schroeder. 

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       Man, they’d have to pay for Schroeder. Since they are in win now mode, Sixers might have to give up Noel. I don’t think the Sixers would do that and even still, would that bring the Hawks more wins? They’ve got some good big guys and only Shelvin Mack is their backup PG. I just don’t see how they get Schroeder. 

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    I’ve suggested Schroeder for the 76ers before so I naturally like that idea but I doubt any deal would be done before the end of the season. The Hawks are win now so would be reluctant to give up Schroeder even if it was for a potentially high pick and Sam Hinkie I’d guess would want to keep his draft options open until he knows exactly what picks he will get next summer and where they fall.

    If Philly couldn’t get Schroeder and cannot draft a PG then ideally they target an established pass first PG who can create for all the young talent. I notice that Rondo is playing well again in Sac-Town, he has his title so doesn’t need to chase one as such and is only on a one year deal. The chance to create for a lot of young studs might appeal to someone like Rondo.

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    I think that they shouldn’t let go of MCW, I a not saying they will win, but he can pass the ball and has heigth adavantages he can produce easy shots for his teammates via drive and dish. But in terms of potential he might be reaching his peak three years from now. He can’t shoot the ball. I’m fine with the sixers now, it means it has a chance to land simmons lol

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    I think that they shouldn’t let go of MCW, I a not saying they will win, but he can pass the ball and has heigth adavantages he can produce easy shots for his teammates via drive and dish. But in terms of potential he might be reaching his peak three years from now. He can’t shoot the ball. I’m fine with the sixers now, it means it has a chance to land simmons lol

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    • #1027619
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       Hmmm…. last time I checked, they had already gotten rid of MCW.

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      ZachAttack
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       Hmmm…. last time I checked, they had already gotten rid of MCW.

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  • #1027344
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    Any Schroeder deal for Philly would have to be off season as the Hawks being win now would not give him up mid season I figure and they’d want to know exactly the value of any picks coming their way. Likewise Hinkie wouldn’t give up a first rounder until he knew the value of it and miss out on a shot at a really top talent.

    My line of thinking would be the Lakers pick via Phoenix if it came over to Philly at say 5-8 in the draft would be the ball park asking price for Schroeder.

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  • #1027479
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    Any Schroeder deal for Philly would have to be off season as the Hawks being win now would not give him up mid season I figure and they’d want to know exactly the value of any picks coming their way. Likewise Hinkie wouldn’t give up a first rounder until he knew the value of it and miss out on a shot at a really top talent.

    My line of thinking would be the Lakers pick via Phoenix if it came over to Philly at say 5-8 in the draft would be the ball park asking price for Schroeder.

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     those two late first rounders and fill in the blank player. Honestly I watch every sixers game and Noel just does not fit. If saric has sntbdevensuce potential and range in his shot Noel’s gone regardless trust me! Not to mention if (huge if) embid is playing. 

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    negguary
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     those two late first rounders and fill in the blank player. Honestly I watch every sixers game and Noel just does not fit. If saric has sntbdevensuce potential and range in his shot Noel’s gone regardless trust me! Not to mention if (huge if) embid is playing. 

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