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  • #63433
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     18 year old Greek center Georgios Papagiannis, that I have been talking about here since he was 14 years old, will enter into 2016 NBA draft according to media reports.

    Papagiannis is said to be 7’2".

    Here he is in YouTube:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HONMckk0NCU

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  • #1055755
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     Was a player St. John’s was recruiting last year. From what I’ve heard about him I think it’s highly unlikely he’s ready for the NBA just one year later. He would have been in the 50-60 range of recruits overall from the 2015 class. Can’t teach size though… Maybe someone would take a shot on his size in the 2nd round, but if he stays in I think most likely he goes undrafted.

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    • #1055790
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       He is much better than Ante Zizic, Ivica Zubac, and Zhou Qi that are projected as being drafted, and some mocks even put them in first round. Papagiannis is much better than all of them.

      If he can’t get drafted, it is more proof that the NBA is biased against Greek players.

       

       

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    • #1055915
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       He is much better than Ante Zizic, Ivica Zubac, and Zhou Qi that are projected as being drafted, and some mocks even put them in first round. Papagiannis is much better than all of them.

      If he can’t get drafted, it is more proof that the NBA is biased against Greek players.

       

       

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  • #1055881
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     Was a player St. John’s was recruiting last year. From what I’ve heard about him I think it’s highly unlikely he’s ready for the NBA just one year later. He would have been in the 50-60 range of recruits overall from the 2015 class. Can’t teach size though… Maybe someone would take a shot on his size in the 2nd round, but if he stays in I think most likely he goes undrafted.

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  • #1055780
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     He’s a first round talent to me, possibly late lotto.  Top 3 C prospect in the draft IMO.  Big frame, wide base, soft hands and touch, mobile, decent shot-blocking instincts, nice looking form on his shot (remember him showing off his 3 pt stroke when he played in the States), presents a big target in PnR situations, solid passing instincts, etc.  There’s a lot to like. He’s not fat at all but needs to tighten up his body and improve his conditioning.  Also, for a kid with giant anchors for legs, he doesn’t do a great job of establishing position and he also tends to drift/fade on his shots, even on his hooks that he tends to sweep as opposed to creating space and going over the top.

    I wonder what his time table is with possible buy out and opt out clauses.  Does he want to come over immediately or establish himself overseas first?

      

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    • #1055792
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       I am not sure, but I think he has NBA buyout option after every season for about €500,000 euros. Or maybe the buyout option does not kick in until next summer. I am not sure.

      He will definitely play in NBA if he gets the chance. Because he gets almost zero playing time the last 2 years in Panathinaikos.

       

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    • #1055917
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       I am not sure, but I think he has NBA buyout option after every season for about €500,000 euros. Or maybe the buyout option does not kick in until next summer. I am not sure.

      He will definitely play in NBA if he gets the chance. Because he gets almost zero playing time the last 2 years in Panathinaikos.

       

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  • #1055905
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     He’s a first round talent to me, possibly late lotto.  Top 3 C prospect in the draft IMO.  Big frame, wide base, soft hands and touch, mobile, decent shot-blocking instincts, nice looking form on his shot (remember him showing off his 3 pt stroke when he played in the States), presents a big target in PnR situations, solid passing instincts, etc.  There’s a lot to like. He’s not fat at all but needs to tighten up his body and improve his conditioning.  Also, for a kid with giant anchors for legs, he doesn’t do a great job of establishing position and he also tends to drift/fade on his shots, even on his hooks that he tends to sweep as opposed to creating space and going over the top.

    I wonder what his time table is with possible buy out and opt out clauses.  Does he want to come over immediately or establish himself overseas first?

      

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  • #1055794
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     No way he is 7’2.  6’11 in sneaks, tops.  

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    • #1056017
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       So he’s really 6’10, not 7’2? Hard to believe. He’s also listed at 275 pounds, and he doesn’t look fat. I’d say he’s at least 7’1.

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    • #1055892
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       So he’s really 6’10, not 7’2? Hard to believe. He’s also listed at 275 pounds, and he doesn’t look fat. I’d say he’s at least 7’1.

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      • #1056053
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         I have seen plenty of tape on plenty of seven footers. So after watching this tape I say to myself, if this dude was standing next to Embiid he would look small. And if you agree then he isn’t 7’2 275…cause thats what Embiid is.

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      • #1056176
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         I have seen plenty of tape on plenty of seven footers. So after watching this tape I say to myself, if this dude was standing next to Embiid he would look small. And if you agree then he isn’t 7’2 275…cause thats what Embiid is.

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      • #1056068
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         The last time Papagiannis was measured and weighed, he was said to be 7-2 even, without shoes on, and his weight was given as 278 pounds.

        The claim being made here by hollefillers1 that he is really 6-10, is absurd.

         

        NBA lists Giannis Antetokounmpo at 6-11, and in Greek national team, he is clearly much shorter than Ioannis Bourousis. I have seen Bourousis next to Papagiannis, and Papagiannis is easily taller than Bourousis is.

        Papagiannis would tower over Antetokounmpo, that NBA lists at 6-11.

         

         

         

         

         

         

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        • #1056077
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           I will believe it when they release the combine measurements. Until then its like going off a college program.  Meaning I trust my eyes more than his friends from Greece with the measuring tape.  But I bet he is closer to 6’10 barefoot than 7’2 barefoot.  

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          • #1056345
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             In the video I posted he is towering over Jake Cohen who is listed as 6-11 by NBA measurements.

             

            He is also in the same video looking about 2 inches taller than Ivica Zubac, that NBA mocks are listing at 7-1, and he also in the same video looks taller than Jonathan Jeanne that is listed as 7-2 barefoot.

             

            In fact, at Euro under-18 championship, Papagiannis was clearly about an inch taller than Jeanne.

            You are trolling,. BIG TIME. Stop it please.

             

             

             

             

             

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            • #1056365
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               You are a clown. I gave my opinion and you freaked out. And you constantly give smart ass, jack off remarks to people who disagree with you. Thats why your point total is negative-for-the-decade.

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            • #1056487
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               You are a clown. I gave my opinion and you freaked out. And you constantly give smart ass, jack off remarks to people who disagree with you. Thats why your point total is negative-for-the-decade.

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          • #1056467
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             In the video I posted he is towering over Jake Cohen who is listed as 6-11 by NBA measurements.

             

            He is also in the same video looking about 2 inches taller than Ivica Zubac, that NBA mocks are listing at 7-1, and he also in the same video looks taller than Jonathan Jeanne that is listed as 7-2 barefoot.

             

            In fact, at Euro under-18 championship, Papagiannis was clearly about an inch taller than Jeanne.

            You are trolling,. BIG TIME. Stop it please.

             

             

             

             

             

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        • #1056200
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           I will believe it when they release the combine measurements. Until then its like going off a college program.  Meaning I trust my eyes more than his friends from Greece with the measuring tape.  But I bet he is closer to 6’10 barefoot than 7’2 barefoot.  

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      • #1056192
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         The last time Papagiannis was measured and weighed, he was said to be 7-2 even, without shoes on, and his weight was given as 278 pounds.

        The claim being made here by hollefillers1 that he is really 6-10, is absurd.

         

        NBA lists Giannis Antetokounmpo at 6-11, and in Greek national team, he is clearly much shorter than Ioannis Bourousis. I have seen Bourousis next to Papagiannis, and Papagiannis is easily taller than Bourousis is.

        Papagiannis would tower over Antetokounmpo, that NBA lists at 6-11.

         

         

         

         

         

         

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    • #1056061
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       He looks about 2 inches taller than Ivica Zubac, who was measured at 7-1 in shoes. He plays in same team with Ognjen Kuzmic, who NBA listed at 7-1. He is clearly at least 1 inch taller than Kucmiz, and more like 1.5 inches to 2 inches taller.

      Considering that Prozingis is barely over 7-1 without shoes on, and NBA lists him at "7-3", Papagiannis might even be 7-4 by NBA standards.

      Because Porzingis is not 7-2 without shoes on. He’s 7-1 without shoes on. Papagiannis measurement is given as 7-2 even, without shoes on.

       

       

       

       

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    • #1056184
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       He looks about 2 inches taller than Ivica Zubac, who was measured at 7-1 in shoes. He plays in same team with Ognjen Kuzmic, who NBA listed at 7-1. He is clearly at least 1 inch taller than Kucmiz, and more like 1.5 inches to 2 inches taller.

      Considering that Prozingis is barely over 7-1 without shoes on, and NBA lists him at "7-3", Papagiannis might even be 7-4 by NBA standards.

      Because Porzingis is not 7-2 without shoes on. He’s 7-1 without shoes on. Papagiannis measurement is given as 7-2 even, without shoes on.

       

       

       

       

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  • #1055919
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     No way he is 7’2.  6’11 in sneaks, tops.  

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  • #1055798
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     He looks like a more offensive skilled Gobert, but less of a monster defensive presence like Gobert is. I mean, that jump shot looked really good, Gobert couldn’t make a shot outside of 5 feet if his life depended on it. I’d take him around 20-25. I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of him, but he’s got my attention. I’d be very surprised if he goes undrafted.

    Another player who was one of the greats that I see in him is Yao Ming.

    If I could make a comparison for him, it would be a hybrid of Gobert and Ming.

     

     

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  • #1055923
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     He looks like a more offensive skilled Gobert, but less of a monster defensive presence like Gobert is. I mean, that jump shot looked really good, Gobert couldn’t make a shot outside of 5 feet if his life depended on it. I’d take him around 20-25. I’ll admit I haven’t seen much of him, but he’s got my attention. I’d be very surprised if he goes undrafted.

    Another player who was one of the greats that I see in him is Yao Ming.

    If I could make a comparison for him, it would be a hybrid of Gobert and Ming.

     

     

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  • #1056001
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    The fact that there is no third round proves the bias against Greek players. A lot of them would be taken there. And don’t get me started on a fourth round… But Trump won’t allow it.

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  • #1055876
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    The fact that there is no third round proves the bias against Greek players. A lot of them would be taken there. And don’t get me started on a fourth round… But Trump won’t allow it.

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  • #1056007
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     Milwaukee could use him right now!!!!!!

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  • #1055882
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     Milwaukee could use him right now!!!!!!

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  • #1056084
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    Is he a "Draft and stash" player?

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  • #1055960
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    Is he a "Draft and stash" player?

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