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- Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:20pm #51471
bouncem24949ParticipantIf you had to start a team today which young big man would you take? Gimme your top 3 young big men, only rule is that they have to be 24 years old or younger.
Cousins, Drummond, Davis, Griffin, Monroe, Favors, Henson and Sanders ( im sure I forgot some).
1. Anthony Davis – To me he has the most upside. He is a versatile, can do a little bit of everything.He can score in a variety of ways, pass, rebound and defend. While he struggled at times during his rookie year he still put up respectable numbers. He has all the skils to be an ALL NBA talent for years to come. Davis also seems to missing the DIVA mentality some many other NBA players have shown. His back to the basket game needs all kinds of work. However I believe he is pretty similar to Tim Duncan at the same age, I believe the sky is the limit for him.
2. Demarcus Cousins – He’s not soft and isnt afraid of anyone. I think out of all the young bigs he has the most complete back to the basket game. He rebounds, he defends and he can hit the 15 foot jump shot. He wants the ball and he wants to be great. With the right people around him I believe Demarcus could be a special player soon rather than later. In 10 years Demarcus Cousins will still be a starting NBA center.
3. Andre Drummond – Upside Upside Upside, in high school he really reminded me of a bulkier Amare Stouemire. Drummond moves great for a guy his size, and surprised everyone with his production last year. Drummond should be given a bigger opportunity this year to make his impact on the NBA. He has a few back to the basket moves, moves around great for his size and is a tremendous rebounder for his age.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:28pm #825378
Wavy BagelsParticipantMonroe for skill, Sanders for defense and Drummond for potential. A solid 3-big rotation if you ask me.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:28pm #825273
Wavy BagelsParticipantMonroe for skill, Sanders for defense and Drummond for potential. A solid 3-big rotation if you ask me.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:39pm #825384
bouncem24949Participanti simply made a list of my top 3 choices, you get to start a team with one person not three.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:39pm #825279
bouncem24949Participanti simply made a list of my top 3 choices, you get to start a team with one person not three.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:49pm #825386
SiggyParticipantWhat back to the basket moves does Drummond have? Kid doesn’t even have an adequate jump hook and doesn’t understand how to do a basic, power drop step (or least he doesn’t do it).
Um, I’ll take Anthony Davis I guess but I’d be worried about possible health issues. High IQ, no maintenance, has a solid foundation of skill, he’s a self starter with a great work ethic and has legit 2 way potential, with elite potential on 1 end of the floor. I’ll take that.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:49pm #825281
SiggyParticipantWhat back to the basket moves does Drummond have? Kid doesn’t even have an adequate jump hook and doesn’t understand how to do a basic, power drop step (or least he doesn’t do it).
Um, I’ll take Anthony Davis I guess but I’d be worried about possible health issues. High IQ, no maintenance, has a solid foundation of skill, he’s a self starter with a great work ethic and has legit 2 way potential, with elite potential on 1 end of the floor. I’ll take that.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:59pm #825400
AmiableBaller34ParticipantCousins, just because unlike most of the other people you mentioned, he can actually score the basketball. While he leaves much to be desired right now, I would be doing myself a disservice if I was a GM and didn’t think I could turn him in the right direction. He plays good offense, rebounds the ball, and is an extremely under rated passer for a big man. I would have to go with him.
Another big man I think a lot of people are sleeping on is Derrick Favors. He’s been buried on the bench in Utah, and is finally going to be given a chance. Last year as a starter he averaged 10/10/2 (in only 8 games though), and had some pretty awesome games like his 16-14 (9 offensive) against Sac, 23-15 against MIL, and had over 3+ blocks in 21 games last year. He reminds me of a young Dwight to be honest, and with his frame he could be a physically imposing player for years to come, and is one of the players I’ll be following closely all year. The Jazz did trade Deron for him
Favor’s Game Log:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01/gamelog/2013/Favor’s Splits:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01/splits/2013/0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 2:59pm #825295
AmiableBaller34ParticipantCousins, just because unlike most of the other people you mentioned, he can actually score the basketball. While he leaves much to be desired right now, I would be doing myself a disservice if I was a GM and didn’t think I could turn him in the right direction. He plays good offense, rebounds the ball, and is an extremely under rated passer for a big man. I would have to go with him.
Another big man I think a lot of people are sleeping on is Derrick Favors. He’s been buried on the bench in Utah, and is finally going to be given a chance. Last year as a starter he averaged 10/10/2 (in only 8 games though), and had some pretty awesome games like his 16-14 (9 offensive) against Sac, 23-15 against MIL, and had over 3+ blocks in 21 games last year. He reminds me of a young Dwight to be honest, and with his frame he could be a physically imposing player for years to come, and is one of the players I’ll be following closely all year. The Jazz did trade Deron for him
Favor’s Game Log:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01/gamelog/2013/Favor’s Splits:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/favorde01/splits/2013/0- Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:48pm #825365
bouncem24949Participantya i am always curious about him and Enes, with Jefferson and Millsap gone theyll show what they can do.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:48pm #825470
bouncem24949Participantya i am always curious about him and Enes, with Jefferson and Millsap gone theyll show what they can do.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 3:20pm #825416
SiggyParticipantEnes Kanter deserves mention. I think he’s a beast in the making and I’d take him over a lot of guys mentioned in the OP.
He’s strong, athletic, has great post moves, great hands and feet, soft touch, can hit the mid-range J and he plays like a bull in a china shop. He’s better than advertised defensively as well.0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 3:20pm #825311
SiggyParticipantEnes Kanter deserves mention. I think he’s a beast in the making and I’d take him over a lot of guys mentioned in the OP.
He’s strong, athletic, has great post moves, great hands and feet, soft touch, can hit the mid-range J and he plays like a bull in a china shop. He’s better than advertised defensively as well.0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 3:55pm #825432
BasketBalAllanParticipantThis list really comes down to Cousins, Monroe, Drummond, Davis.
Its all about what type of play you value, Drummond for D and rebounding, Davis for D with more offensive potential, Monroe for a well rounded game and a cool head, Cousins for high skill with an attitude.
I would take Cousins, Monroe, Drummond, Davis in that order but honestly they are all fairly close and going to be really good players.
Edit: i missed Griffin, though I would take him fifth just bc I would rather have a center or a defensive forward before him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 3:55pm #825327
BasketBalAllanParticipantThis list really comes down to Cousins, Monroe, Drummond, Davis.
Its all about what type of play you value, Drummond for D and rebounding, Davis for D with more offensive potential, Monroe for a well rounded game and a cool head, Cousins for high skill with an attitude.
I would take Cousins, Monroe, Drummond, Davis in that order but honestly they are all fairly close and going to be really good players.
Edit: i missed Griffin, though I would take him fifth just bc I would rather have a center or a defensive forward before him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:08pm #825442
M.GarveyParticipantCousins got to hit closer to 50% before I can take him seriously.
Davis, Blake (begrudgingly), Monroe.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:08pm #825337
M.GarveyParticipantCousins got to hit closer to 50% before I can take him seriously.
Davis, Blake (begrudgingly), Monroe.
0- Posted on: Thu, 07/25/2013 - 1:34am #825475
M.GarveyParticipantI see y’all minused me. Cousins is talented and could be great but right now he’s not efficient, 44% really? Plus a headcase?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/25/2013 - 1:34am #825580
M.GarveyParticipantI see y’all minused me. Cousins is talented and could be great but right now he’s not efficient, 44% really? Plus a headcase?
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:17pm #825444
J_01ParticipantCan I pick someone not on your list? If I can I’d pick Jonas Valanciunas. He’s a 6’11 center who like to bang down low and has a great motor. He’s also continues to add bulk every off season and has a developing post game. Also a great FT shooter shot about 80% last season and 88% during summer league. Still needs to get stronger and keep himself out of foul trouble but with his skillset, motor and bball iq he should definitely get a mention as one of the top young bigs.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:17pm #825339
J_01ParticipantCan I pick someone not on your list? If I can I’d pick Jonas Valanciunas. He’s a 6’11 center who like to bang down low and has a great motor. He’s also continues to add bulk every off season and has a developing post game. Also a great FT shooter shot about 80% last season and 88% during summer league. Still needs to get stronger and keep himself out of foul trouble but with his skillset, motor and bball iq he should definitely get a mention as one of the top young bigs.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:42pm #825357
druneave3ParticipantStarting my franchise?
Anthony Davis. When the two names most associated in comparison are the top 2 PF’s of All-Time (Duncan/KG), I think this one is a no-brainer. So excited when he finally got into an Olympic game and just made an immediate impact at both ends of the floor while looking like the best player on the court. It was just a shot amount of time but on world stage with some of the best in the world. He also was the best player on a, albeit stacked, National Championship Team in college.
Top 3.
1.Davis.
2. Derrick Favors. Always been head over heal in love with Favors. Size, bulk, and athleticism have always been there. Defense and rebounding are becoming elite. For a man with that bulk and size does an exceptional job of switching and playing PnR defense. With more playing time I think he will be in consideration for most improved, and my pre-season favorite.
3. Larry Sanders. Cousins has everything you could possibly want in a big man. Drummond, the same, except the offensive skill set. However, at this stage, I don’t trust either of them to lead my franchise to a championship. Both will demand max deals, and as a GM, I am not doing that. Sanders is little bit of a goofball but not near Drummond or Cousins, and I think he will be cheaper. He has the defense with a growing offensive game.
Henson still has a ton of growth but he has impressed me with his play the end of last season and in his short SL stint this year. Same can said of Meyers Leonard. Dude was hitting FT”s, mid range, even a few 3’s with a smooth stroke and confidence all while looking like basketball’s version of Arnold. Asik is over the age credentials here but those are all guys I would look at before throwing big bucks to the likes of Cousins, Drummond, Griffin, and Monroe.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 4:42pm #825462
druneave3ParticipantStarting my franchise?
Anthony Davis. When the two names most associated in comparison are the top 2 PF’s of All-Time (Duncan/KG), I think this one is a no-brainer. So excited when he finally got into an Olympic game and just made an immediate impact at both ends of the floor while looking like the best player on the court. It was just a shot amount of time but on world stage with some of the best in the world. He also was the best player on a, albeit stacked, National Championship Team in college.
Top 3.
1.Davis.
2. Derrick Favors. Always been head over heal in love with Favors. Size, bulk, and athleticism have always been there. Defense and rebounding are becoming elite. For a man with that bulk and size does an exceptional job of switching and playing PnR defense. With more playing time I think he will be in consideration for most improved, and my pre-season favorite.
3. Larry Sanders. Cousins has everything you could possibly want in a big man. Drummond, the same, except the offensive skill set. However, at this stage, I don’t trust either of them to lead my franchise to a championship. Both will demand max deals, and as a GM, I am not doing that. Sanders is little bit of a goofball but not near Drummond or Cousins, and I think he will be cheaper. He has the defense with a growing offensive game.
Henson still has a ton of growth but he has impressed me with his play the end of last season and in his short SL stint this year. Same can said of Meyers Leonard. Dude was hitting FT”s, mid range, even a few 3’s with a smooth stroke and confidence all while looking like basketball’s version of Arnold. Asik is over the age credentials here but those are all guys I would look at before throwing big bucks to the likes of Cousins, Drummond, Griffin, and Monroe.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 5:17pm #825379
Sharp ShooterParticipantCousins- He “fearless, attitude” that he has. Also has the potential to be a go-to player.
Monroe- Calm head. Would be the Yin and yang to Cousins.
Drummond- Need a enforcer on the defensive end. Also can play off of either Monroe or cousins.0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 5:17pm #825484
Sharp ShooterParticipantCousins- He “fearless, attitude” that he has. Also has the potential to be a go-to player.
Monroe- Calm head. Would be the Yin and yang to Cousins.
Drummond- Need a enforcer on the defensive end. Also can play off of either Monroe or cousins.0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:09pm #825391
anthony_DavIS23Participant1) Anthony Davis – obviously…..
2) Andre Drummond – Has all the tools to be an elite level NBA player. He’s 7.0 with a 7.5 wing span and 270 pounds, plus run the floor with the best of them.
3) Derrick Favors0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:09pm #825496
anthony_DavIS23Participant1) Anthony Davis – obviously…..
2) Andre Drummond – Has all the tools to be an elite level NBA player. He’s 7.0 with a 7.5 wing span and 270 pounds, plus run the floor with the best of them.
3) Derrick Favors0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:14pm #825397
WarblingSpamalopeParticipantCall me Mr literal on the twenty four or younger but I’ll throw him in there this month.
Kevin love- the beast who loves a chip on his shoulder to walk around with. The inside outside combo. Best offensive big there is.
Andre Drummond- basically the opposite strengths of Kevin love. Rim protector freak athlete with room to grow his game.
Anthony Davis- has the inside track on becoming the most complete big in the league. Has range on the jumper and athletic. Has defense on the mind and as he gets stronger will get even move disruptive.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:14pm #825502
WarblingSpamalopeParticipantCall me Mr literal on the twenty four or younger but I’ll throw him in there this month.
Kevin love- the beast who loves a chip on his shoulder to walk around with. The inside outside combo. Best offensive big there is.
Andre Drummond- basically the opposite strengths of Kevin love. Rim protector freak athlete with room to grow his game.
Anthony Davis- has the inside track on becoming the most complete big in the league. Has range on the jumper and athletic. Has defense on the mind and as he gets stronger will get even move disruptive.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:39pm #825405
phila9012ParticipantI would have the top 3 in this order
Anthony davis- has pretty much ever you would want in a 20 year old big man
Jonas valenciunis. He is going to be incredible, he can shoot, score in the post and defend and pass, I think he is a younger better marc Gasol. He also shoots great from the line. He has a great motor/ work ethic and plays smart.
Demarcus cousins- he is skilled and if he gets his head right he will continue to grow as a player and person and might not reach his peak until he is 30 or 31 because his game doesnt rely on athleticism.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 07/24/2013 - 6:39pm #825510
phila9012ParticipantI would have the top 3 in this order
Anthony davis- has pretty much ever you would want in a 20 year old big man
Jonas valenciunis. He is going to be incredible, he can shoot, score in the post and defend and pass, I think he is a younger better marc Gasol. He also shoots great from the line. He has a great motor/ work ethic and plays smart.
Demarcus cousins- he is skilled and if he gets his head right he will continue to grow as a player and person and might not reach his peak until he is 30 or 31 because his game doesnt rely on athleticism.
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