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  • #48983
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    Ghost01
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    I know he isn’t great, but the Thunder have basically no depth, yet he still doesn’t get in at all. This guy wasn’t outstanding on the Bulls, but I never thought he would be riding pine a year later. Even on the Knicks, he randomly went from starting and playing a lot of being on the bench. He can provide the Thunder with some good defense and has a knack for making good cut and getting good looks at the rim. This team plays Fisher like the entire game, who, despite being annoyingly hot, absolutely kills them on D.

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    bloodshy
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    I’m not saying OKC was smart by making him ride pine in favor of Fisher or others. However, the reason the Jazz let him go and the reason he eventually dropped out of the rotation of the other teams he’s played for is because he simply can’t shoot. When any wing/point can’t shoot it destroys the spacing on O. Considering the difficulties OKC had in getting KD space as it was, having a player that the D could totally sag off may have proven problematic.

    I’ve been a big fan of Brewer his whole career. He was a big fan favorite in Utah and I’m a Jazz fan. Unfortunately, his shot is permanently broken and giving up that much spacing is tough to swallow.

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    • #775211
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      I agree with what you are saying in terms of the fact now a days you need shooters on the perimeter. However, I don’t think Tony Allen would be riding bench in favor of Fisher if Fisher was on Memphis. Not saying Brewer is the defender Allen is; he isn’t. But there are wings who do other things and help your team win and can at least see the floor. So much Fisher and Reggie Jackson doing nothing positive for this team, I’m just surprised he hasn’t thrown a couple of new guys out there.

      Totally unrelated to the Brewer thing, I really think Brooks is a terrible coach. There is no evidence he has done anything to help this team win. Their offense is terrible, and any coach can tell Westbrook and Durant to go get it and win games. He wasn’t playing Kevin Martin down the stretch of game 4 despite the fact he is their 2nd best player and had an efficient 18 points. Its just unbelievable to me.

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    • #775280
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      I agree with what you are saying in terms of the fact now a days you need shooters on the perimeter. However, I don’t think Tony Allen would be riding bench in favor of Fisher if Fisher was on Memphis. Not saying Brewer is the defender Allen is; he isn’t. But there are wings who do other things and help your team win and can at least see the floor. So much Fisher and Reggie Jackson doing nothing positive for this team, I’m just surprised he hasn’t thrown a couple of new guys out there.

      Totally unrelated to the Brewer thing, I really think Brooks is a terrible coach. There is no evidence he has done anything to help this team win. Their offense is terrible, and any coach can tell Westbrook and Durant to go get it and win games. He wasn’t playing Kevin Martin down the stretch of game 4 despite the fact he is their 2nd best player and had an efficient 18 points. Its just unbelievable to me.

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  • #775265
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    bloodshy
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    I’m not saying OKC was smart by making him ride pine in favor of Fisher or others. However, the reason the Jazz let him go and the reason he eventually dropped out of the rotation of the other teams he’s played for is because he simply can’t shoot. When any wing/point can’t shoot it destroys the spacing on O. Considering the difficulties OKC had in getting KD space as it was, having a player that the D could totally sag off may have proven problematic.

    I’ve been a big fan of Brewer his whole career. He was a big fan favorite in Utah and I’m a Jazz fan. Unfortunately, his shot is permanently broken and giving up that much spacing is tough to swallow.

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  • #775284
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    rickybobby
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    I always thought D Fish was a terrible defender but when looking closely he does a very solid jod on his man. He’s always up in their grill and buts pressure on his man. He does gamble to much or gets too aggressive but he always make the huge defensive plays and his shooting and court spacing exceed any defensive problems he does have.

    The real problem is Scott Brooks isnt a good coach. Why was DeAndre Liggins getting so many minutes at one point? I thought that was absurd especially since Brewer didnt get any pt and he’s the better player and defender.

    Getting back to how stupid Brooks is why go small when Memphis whole offense is Gasol and Randolph? They where taking advantage of Durant guarding them and since Durant was playing point forward he was at the top alot, so Gasol was basically just clogging the middle guarding no one. Atleast with two bigs in they could have limited Memphis inside presence alittle.

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  • #775353
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    I always thought D Fish was a terrible defender but when looking closely he does a very solid jod on his man. He’s always up in their grill and buts pressure on his man. He does gamble to much or gets too aggressive but he always make the huge defensive plays and his shooting and court spacing exceed any defensive problems he does have.

    The real problem is Scott Brooks isnt a good coach. Why was DeAndre Liggins getting so many minutes at one point? I thought that was absurd especially since Brewer didnt get any pt and he’s the better player and defender.

    Getting back to how stupid Brooks is why go small when Memphis whole offense is Gasol and Randolph? They where taking advantage of Durant guarding them and since Durant was playing point forward he was at the top alot, so Gasol was basically just clogging the middle guarding no one. Atleast with two bigs in they could have limited Memphis inside presence alittle.

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  • #775301
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    Jeremy Lamb was a great prospect – he could very well have made the all rookie first or second team if he had more opportunities. (eg Wash, Charlotte)

    What i don’t get is why he didn’t play Lamb or even Perry Jones much in the season ? They were blowing alot of teams out. Protecting that home advantage doesn’t mean anything when you don’t let players develop.

    He could have played both guys 10-20 mins a night. How is sitting on the bench going to improve your rookies.

    In hindsight if J Lamb had know he would be riding the pine all season I am sure he would of developed better if he had stayed in college. With this upcoming weak draft who knows how high he would go.

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    • #775340
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      Grandmama
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      Scotty Brooks for ya….

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    • #775410
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      Grandmama
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      Scotty Brooks for ya….

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    • #775474
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      hbomb3300
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      I was saying this all season… no reason you can’t get Lamb and Jones, and even Reggie Jackson, more playing time while not sacrificing much in the wins column. Both rookies were ok in the playing time they did get… not like they were a major handicap to the team. The great thing though is they got plenty of time in the D League so its not like they were developing rust on the bench.

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    • #775405
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      I was saying this all season… no reason you can’t get Lamb and Jones, and even Reggie Jackson, more playing time while not sacrificing much in the wins column. Both rookies were ok in the playing time they did get… not like they were a major handicap to the team. The great thing though is they got plenty of time in the D League so its not like they were developing rust on the bench.

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  • #775371
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    Jeremy Lamb was a great prospect – he could very well have made the all rookie first or second team if he had more opportunities. (eg Wash, Charlotte)

    What i don’t get is why he didn’t play Lamb or even Perry Jones much in the season ? They were blowing alot of teams out. Protecting that home advantage doesn’t mean anything when you don’t let players develop.

    He could have played both guys 10-20 mins a night. How is sitting on the bench going to improve your rookies.

    In hindsight if J Lamb had know he would be riding the pine all season I am sure he would of developed better if he had stayed in college. With this upcoming weak draft who knows how high he would go.

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  • #775330
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    All Ronnie Brewer does is play extremely tough defense. He’s one of the better wing defenders in the L.

    That said, what can Brewer do that Sefolosha can’t?

    Also, Brewer is a defensive beast but who exactly was he going to shut down this series? Tony Allen? Tayshaun Prince?

    I love Brewer and the way he plays but he just didn’t fit in with OKC and their style. OKC is a jump-shooting team and Brewer cannot shoot.

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  • #775401
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    All Ronnie Brewer does is play extremely tough defense. He’s one of the better wing defenders in the L.

    That said, what can Brewer do that Sefolosha can’t?

    Also, Brewer is a defensive beast but who exactly was he going to shut down this series? Tony Allen? Tayshaun Prince?

    I love Brewer and the way he plays but he just didn’t fit in with OKC and their style. OKC is a jump-shooting team and Brewer cannot shoot.

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