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- Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:12am #42318
BasterdInABasketParticipantI did this last year at this time too. Ill tally them up and do each position. Its slow in the basketball world now so lets see how opinions have changed in one year..
1. Best PG right now?
2. Best PG in 5 years?
3. Most underrated?
4. Overrated?
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?
6. Best Rookie PG?
7. Most athletic?
8. Most skilled?
9. Best leader?
10. Best All Time?
No double votes either please.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:21am #702032
monkey23Participant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kryie Irving
3. Most underrated? Rajon Rondo
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? John Wall
9. Best leader? Steve Nash/Jason Kidd
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:23am #702033
BostonkingsParticipant1. Rajon Rondo (Does evertyhing so well)
2. Rajon Rondo (I know you said no double answers but I believe he will be the best pg in the league for the next 8 years)
3. Mike Conley
4. Chris Paul
5. John Wall
6. Damien Lillard???
7. Russell Westbrook
8. Steve Nash
9. Derrick Rose
10. Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:27am #702035
BasterdInABasketParticipantFor double votes I meant no ties like dont say Rondo and Paul are the best PGs or something.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:36am #702037
BasterdInABasketParticipant1. Best PG right now? Westbrook. I can’t believe I’m saying this but he impresses me more and more.
2. Best PG in 5 years? Irving.
3. Most underrated? Conley. Tough one but he’s surprised me since college and I like his game.
4. Overrated? Jennings. I wanted to say Lin but I cant stand how Jennings. It might be out of necessity but he’s so inefficient.
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Lillard.
7. Most athletic? Westbrook. Easy one with the Rose injury.
8. Most skilled? Nash. He’s dropped off but a guy that unathletic shouldnt be able to do what he does.
9. Best leader? Paul.
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:37am #702038
Andrew1984Participant1. Best PG right now? Derrick Rose
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kyrie Irving
3. Most underrated? Stephen Curry
4. Overrated? Ricky Rubio (There is much to like, but 35 percent from the field is unacceptable for anyone.)
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Norris Cole
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash
9. Best leader? Magic Johnson
10. Best All Time? Oscar Robertson0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:43am #702039
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Derrick Rose (You guys realize he’s only 23, right?)
3. Most underrated? Rajon Rondo
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash
9. Best leader? Chris Paul
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:44am #702040
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWill you be doing this for other positions as well?
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 9:47am #702041
ItsVictorOladipoParticipant. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Derrick Rose
3. Most underrated? Ty Lawson
4. Overrated? Ricky Rubio
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Chris Paul
9. Best leader? Steve Nash
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:08am #702048
Memphis MadnessParticipant1. Best PG right now? With D Rose hurt, then I am going with Chris Paul (great all-around too).
2. Best PG in 5 years? Derrick Rose (I think he expands his play making skill set).
3. Most underrated? Ty Lawson. Mike Conley is second, but he is almost so underrated he is overrated by now.
4. Overrated? John Wall
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Ricky Rubio
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Derrick Rose (with Russell Westbrook being more explosive)
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash
9. Best leader? Rajon Rondo
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:13am #702050
TMoney617Participant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Derrick Rose
3. Most underrated? Tony Parker
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russel Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Chris Paul
9. Best leader? Steve Nash
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:14am #702052
Memphis MadnessParticipant^^^
I put Rose in their twice. I would rather have him as the best pg in 5 years, so I will go with Russell Westbrook as the most athletic point guard.
Westbrook is interesting because he is somewhat overrated as a point guard but underrated as a GUARD. I think he could be a top 5 vote getter for the MVP award next year. But, don’t confuse that with being a great, pure point guard.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:35am #702060
R-Dot-13Participant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kyrie Irving. (Russell Westbrook is a better player than he is a point guard.
3. Most underrated? Kyle Lowry
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin in the real world, but not on here.
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash
9. Best leader? Chris Paul
10. Best All Time? Magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:36am #702061
Memphis MadnessParticipantIf I am building a young team RIGHT NOW who wants to win in 2 or 3 years then I would want Rajon Rondo at point guard. He is a streaky shooter (at best) but he is a category killer in assists, steals, rebounds, defense, gritty play, and gutsy performances. He can really set guys up and run an offense and he can score some when he has to.
If I can add some great shooters and wings around him like Klay Thompson, James Harden, and Kevin Durant with some great young bigs like Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, and Andrew Bynum inside then Rondo is my guy to run the team. To offset his lack of shooting I would get a backup point guard who can shoot the ball some.
I also think that Rajon Rondo has to be considered for the 2016 Olympic team if we don’t do that Under 23 thing. I doubt that CP3 and Deron Williams will play. If D Rose wants to play then he is a lock. Then you have to look at Westbrook off the bench as an instant-offense combo guard. I like Kyrie Irving too as a point guard who can shoot. I just think that Rondo would help too. Go with four point guards: the athletic and explosive D Rose as the starter, Westbrook as more of a 2 guard off the bench, with Rajon Rondo as the leader of the second unit. Can you imagine a back court of Rondo and Westbrook off the bench? Explosive, and they will get after it — you just need a great shooter at the 3 spot. Then have Kyrie Irving as the 11th/12th man in the point guard/shooter role.
This would be my 2016 team:
Starters:
PG: Derrick Rose
SG: Klay Thompson
SF: Kevin Durant
PF: Kevin Love
C: Dwight HowardBench:
PG: Rajon Rondo
SG: Russell Westbrook
SF: James Harden
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Andrew BynumReserves:
PG: Kyrie Irving
SF: Rudy GayGreat guard rotation with some great depth up front. Anthony Davis would be perfect off the bench if he can play the 4 spot. I have Rudy Gay as the 12th man since he can play the stretch four. He can get his own shot and finish too. I thought about putting MKG or Kawhi Leonard here but Rudy Gay is a better shooter and he has more size and length. He could also be a part of a quicker, more athletic front line with Rudy and Durant at the forward spots and Anthony Davis at center. Rudy Gay can also defend pretty well when he puts his mind too it. He also gives this team another shot blocking threat.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:38am #702062
HadzialijagicParticipantGuys by no double votes he meant no putting Paul and Rose are both the best point right now or something like that. If you want to put rondo for everything you can go ahead haha.
anyways
1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? I still think Chris Paul but Rondo/Irving etc can catch up to him
3. Most underrated? Steve Nash people dont give him enough credit
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving hands down
6. Best Rookie PG? Damien Lillard by a lot
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash the guy is ambidextrous has the best vision and is a consistent 50-40-90 shooter
9. Best leader? Chris Paul
10. Best of all time? Magic Johnson hands down.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:39am #702063
lgckevinParticipant1. Best PG right now? CP3, but Rose if he fully recovers
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kyrie
3. Most underrated? Rubio
4. Overrated? Deron (hate how he did Jerry Sloan)
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie
6. Best Rookie PG? A Rivers (admittedly biased)
7. Most athletic? Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Nash
9. Best leader? CP3
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:43am #702065
HobbyOGParticipant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kyrie Irving
3. Most underrated? Tony Parker
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Ricky Rubio
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Derrick Rose
9. Best leader? Steve nash
10. Best All Time? Magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:13am #702074
derrickrose231Participant1 cp3 until rose comes back not this coming year but the next
2 Rose
3 parker
4 lin
5 irving
6Royce white jk.Lillard
7rose
8parker
9 rondo
10 thomas
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:21am #702079
HaleParticipant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Derrick Rose
3. Most underrated? Kyle Lowry
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Lillard will have the best season
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Steve Nash
9. Best leader? Tony Parker
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:28am #702080
F_S1. Best PG right now? rose
2. Best PG in 5 years? irving
3. Most underrated? lowry?
4. Overrated? dragic
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? irving
6. Best Rookie PG? irving/ lillard
7. Most athletic? wesrbrook
8. Most skilled? rose
9. Best leader? paul/billups
10. Best All Time? magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:06pm #702106
Sotos14Participant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Rajon Rondo
3. Most underrated? Ty Lawson
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russell Westbrook
8. Most skilled? John Wall
9. Best leader? Steve Nash
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:36pm #702114
HadzialijagicParticipantCan somebody explain to me why John Wall has been voted the most skilled point guard not once but TWICE!? If he had the skill level of nash/paul/williams etc he would arguably be a top 5 point guard of all time. Hes supposedly 6’5-6’6 and a freak of an athlete. Hes a good point guard already and he has a long way to go with his handling(4tpg) and shooting(7% from three yes 7%).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:52pm #702121
Malik-UniversalParticipant1. Best PG right now?– Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years?– Rose
3. Most underrated?– Nash
4. Overrated?– Deron Williams
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?– Kyrie
6. Best Rookie PG?–Lillard
7. Most athletic?–Russey Westbrook
8. Most skilled?– I would say Paul or Nash but I already used them so Rondo
9. Best leader?– I would say Paul so Billups
10. Best All Time?– Magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:07pm #702126
A Lil EnglishParticipant1. Best PG right now? Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Rose
3. Most underrated? Conley (almost said Eric Bledsoe or Jarrett Jack but would like to vote Conley)
4. Overrated? Jennings
5. Best Young PG ? Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Lillard
7. Most athletic? Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Nash
9. Best leader? Billups
10. Best All Time? Magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:11pm #702132
jeff416Participant1. Best PG right now? Rose (when healthy)
2. Best PG in 5 years? Rose
3. Most underrated? Tony Parker
4. Overrated? Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Lillard
7. Most athletic? Wall, Westbrook, or Rose
8. Most skilled? Nash
9. Best leader? CP3
10. Best All Time? Magic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:30pm #702145
WizardofOzParticipant1. Best PG right now? CP3
2. Best PG in 5 years? Kyrie (it depends on how much improvemen the other guys make though)
3. Most underrated? Kyle Lowry
4. Overrated? Jeremy Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Kyrie
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Westbrook
8. Most skilled? CP3
9. Best leader? CP3
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 1:39pm #702149
B-ball fanParticipantBest right now: Chris Paul
Best in 5 years: Kyrie Irving
Most underrated: Ty Lawson
Most overrated: Brandon Jennings
Best young: Kyrie Irving
Best rookie: Damian Lillard
Most athletic: Russell Westbrook
Most Skilled: Steve Nash
Best leader: Steve Nash
Best all-time: Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:04pm #702177
carefulParticipantDamn Deron Williams is getting no love man. Have you guys been watching the Olympics?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 3:20pm #702179
Im Your FatherParticipantI’m curious as to what’s overrated about Deron Williams. In my opinion he is still in the discussion for best PG in the league, although I’d probably take Paul and Rose over him. I feel like almost everyone who picks Rondo over Deron Williams is a prisoner of the moment and is failing to consider how little Deron has had to work with for much of his time with the Nets.
Personally, although I’m sure many will disagree with me, I find that Rajon Rondo, while still a fantastic player, has become a bit overrated. My issue with him, if you can call it an issue, is that he is on a Team that completely maximizes his talents, while other top point guards (Rose, Paul, Williams) have worked with less than ideal situations. Rondo has played with three other talented scorers, all of whom were effective catch and shoot players and who were able to be effective while still allowing Rondo to dominate the ball. This is not to say that Rondo hasn’t run the Boston offense incredibly, well, I think it is pretty much indisputable that he has. I would simply argue that both Paul and Williams have comperable court vision and awareness and could run that offense equally as effectively, while simaltaneously being able to shoot the ball much better.
An argument that I have frequently heard from those touting Rondo as the best point guard in the league, is that he can dominate the game without scoring. This is entirely true. However, I fully believe that Paul and Williams can both do the same thing. Paul and Williams, when their shots aren’t falling, can still control a game with their passing, making their teammates significantly better. But they are also both consistently able to carry a large scoring load, in a way that I believe Rondo is not. I do not think it’s fare to penalize Williams and Paul because they are capable of doing more than Rondo on the court, when I think they excell equally as much when it comes to setting up their teammates.
Once again, I’d like to reiterate that I think Rondo is a fantastic player and one of the best in the league, but I think people have elevated him to the status of "best in the league," partially because he has had far more to work with than his competitors for the title.
I have left Rose and Westbrook out of this discussion, because I believe they are a whole nother beast entirely and cut from a far different mold than Paul, Williams and Rondo.
My rankings of the top PGs in the league would go somehthing like:
Rose
PaulWilliams
Rondo
Parker
Westbrook
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 5:08pm #702201
GrovesinternationalParticipant1. Best PG right now? Chris Paul
2. Best PG in 5 years? Chris Paul still. (i have rondo and Rubio as my next two)
3. Most underrated? Kyle Lowry
4. Overrated? Brandon Jennings
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Ricky Rubio
6. Best Rookie PG? Damian Lillard
7. Most athletic? Russel Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Chris Paul
9. Best leader? Jason Kidd
10. Best All Time? Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 5:20pm #702205
jmarg25ParticipantBest Right Now: Chris Paul
Best In Five Years: John Wall
Most Underrated: Kyle Lowry
Most Overrated: Brandon Jennings
Best Young PG: Kyrie Irving
Best Rookie: Damian Lillard
Most Athletic: Russell Westbrook
Most Skilled: Deron Williams
Best Leader: Chris Paul
Best of All Time: Magic Johnson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/31/2012 - 6:28pm #702221
GrandmamaParticipant1. Best PG right now? Rose
2. Best PG in 5 years? Rose
3. Most underrated? Parker
4. Overrated? Jennings
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Irving
6. Best Rookie PG? Lillard
7. Most athletic? Westbrook
8. Most skilled? Paul
9. Best leader? Kidd
10. Best All Time? Magic
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/01/2012 - 5:14am #702336
blood1. Best PG right now? D-Will(imo most wellrounded pg in league,plus dont know will rose be same after injury)
2. Best PG in 5 years?Rose
3. Most underrated? Parker
4. Overrated? Lin
5. Best Young PG (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?Irving
6. Best Rookie PG?Lillard
7. Most athletic?Wall/Westbrook
8. Most skilled?Rondo
9. Best leader?Paul
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