[JoeWolf1]

I’m currently watching the Ohio State vs Florida State game and the player Jared Sullinger reminds me the most of is not Elton Brand BUT Mike Sweetney.  He is really struggling down on the block against more athletic defenders.  This is a long season and he could prove me wrong, bur right now I don’t see a top 5 player.  Sweetney was a beast in college too, but he has a lot of the same weaknesses that Sullinger has and they are really being exposed right now.

[dude1955Participant]

Watching the same game..funny what happens when you face guys that arent scared and dont care that you were HS All American…they are playing volleyball and blocking him at will. He is trying to muscle, getting great position, but honestly he is too overweight. He looks more like Big Baby Davis. No face up game either.

[dude1955Participant]

Watching the same game..funny what happens when you face guys that arent scared and dont care that you were HS All American…they are playing volleyball and blocking him at will. He is trying to muscle, getting great position, but honestly he is too overweight. He looks more like Big Baby Davis. No face up game either.

[dude1955Participant]

Watching the same game..funny what happens when you face guys that arent scared and dont care that you were HS All American…they are playing volleyball and blocking him at will. He is trying to muscle, getting great position, but honestly he is too overweight. He looks more like Big Baby Davis. No face up game either.

[Hi its BenParticipant]

I think that’s a good comparison but I think he’s more of a mix between Mike Sweetney/Elton Brand/Al Jefferson.

Hopefully he’ll work it out though.

 

[Hi its BenParticipant]

I think that’s a good comparison but I think he’s more of a mix between Mike Sweetney/Elton Brand/Al Jefferson.

Hopefully he’ll work it out though.

 

[Hi its BenParticipant]

I think that’s a good comparison but I think he’s more of a mix between Mike Sweetney/Elton Brand/Al Jefferson.

Hopefully he’ll work it out though.

 

[stanford hoops]

that happens when you are seeing alot of double teams  when you touch the ball. FSU is blocking everyone shots. Florida has better bigs and Sullinger put up 26 so i wouldnt look to much into his shot getting blocked a couple of times when the whole front line is paying alot of attention to him

[stanford hoops]

that happens when you are seeing alot of double teams  when you touch the ball. FSU is blocking everyone shots. Florida has better bigs and Sullinger put up 26 so i wouldnt look to much into his shot getting blocked a couple of times when the whole front line is paying alot of attention to him

[stanford hoops]

that happens when you are seeing alot of double teams  when you touch the ball. FSU is blocking everyone shots. Florida has better bigs and Sullinger put up 26 so i wouldnt look to much into his shot getting blocked a couple of times when the whole front line is paying alot of attention to him

[B FreeParticipant]

I was just saying in the other forum that he goes up soft and no explosion in his moves,sluggish is a good word for it, I was gonna say he reminds me of a more offensive Reggie Evans, rebounds but is no help defensively.

[B FreeParticipant]

I was just saying in the other forum that he goes up soft and no explosion in his moves,sluggish is a good word for it, I was gonna say he reminds me of a more offensive Reggie Evans, rebounds but is no help defensively.

[B FreeParticipant]

I was just saying in the other forum that he goes up soft and no explosion in his moves,sluggish is a good word for it, I was gonna say he reminds me of a more offensive Reggie Evans, rebounds but is no help defensively.

[B FreeParticipant]

I was just saying in the other forum that he goes up soft and no explosion in his moves,sluggish is a good word for it, I was gonna say he reminds me of a more offensive Reggie Evans, rebounds but is no help defensively.

[JoeWolf1]

 Yeah, I noticed the double and triple teams, he’s forcing things and not handling them well, but Sweetney was a 20/10 college player who was taken top 10, it’s not like he was a scrub.  I just see a lot of similarities betweeen the two, it’s November in his freshman year,  he could be a much better player by March, I just see a red flag right now considering he is considered a top 5 pick.

[JoeWolf1]

 Yeah, I noticed the double and triple teams, he’s forcing things and not handling them well, but Sweetney was a 20/10 college player who was taken top 10, it’s not like he was a scrub.  I just see a lot of similarities betweeen the two, it’s November in his freshman year,  he could be a much better player by March, I just see a red flag right now considering he is considered a top 5 pick.

[JoeWolf1]

 Yeah, I noticed the double and triple teams, he’s forcing things and not handling them well, but Sweetney was a 20/10 college player who was taken top 10, it’s not like he was a scrub.  I just see a lot of similarities betweeen the two, it’s November in his freshman year,  he could be a much better player by March, I just see a red flag right now considering he is considered a top 5 pick.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He reminds me of Lonny Baxter.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He reminds me of Lonny Baxter.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

He reminds me of Lonny Baxter.

[stanford hoops]

no help defensively?..he’s known to be a good defender and the FSU front court is 1-4 0-2 and 1-7. because he doesnt block shots he’s not a good defender?

ya’ll do realize FSU is the number one shot blocking team int he country for a reason right?

[dude1955Participant]

Ok..#1 Shot Blocking team….shot fake…and what do you think you are going to face in the NBA everynight??

[dude1955Participant]

Ok..#1 Shot Blocking team….shot fake…and what do you think you are going to face in the NBA everynight??

[dude1955Participant]

Ok..#1 Shot Blocking team….shot fake…and what do you think you are going to face in the NBA everynight??

[stanford hoops]

no help defensively?..he’s known to be a good defender and the FSU front court is 1-4 0-2 and 1-7. because he doesnt block shots he’s not a good defender?

ya’ll do realize FSU is the number one shot blocking team int he country for a reason right?

[stanford hoops]

no help defensively?..he’s known to be a good defender and the FSU front court is 1-4 0-2 and 1-7. because he doesnt block shots he’s not a good defender?

ya’ll do realize FSU is the number one shot blocking team int he country for a reason right?

[B FreeParticipant]

He actually reminds me of Derrick Caracter

[B FreeParticipant]

He actually reminds me of Derrick Caracter

[B FreeParticipant]

He actually reminds me of Derrick Caracter

[stanford hoops]

Reminds me of elton brand in many ways both were  around 6’8 and 250-260 at the same stage. Both on top 5 teams, Both put up similar stats

brand 13 and 7

sullinger 15 and 9

Neither is very explosive both use foot work and skill both have long arms

[stanford hoops]

Reminds me of elton brand in many ways both were  around 6’8 and 250-260 at the same stage. Both on top 5 teams, Both put up similar stats

brand 13 and 7

sullinger 15 and 9

Neither is very explosive both use foot work and skill both have long arms

[stanford hoops]

Reminds me of elton brand in many ways both were  around 6’8 and 250-260 at the same stage. Both on top 5 teams, Both put up similar stats

brand 13 and 7

sullinger 15 and 9

Neither is very explosive both use foot work and skill both have long arms

[stanford hoops]

So because he gets his shot blocked a couple of times against the number one shot blocking team in the nation  while getting double teamed every trip hes less of a player?..lol  it doesnt matter if you pump fake if a help side defender is blocking youre shot while youre getting double teamed. I doubt he will have to worry about getting a bunch of double teams in the NBA as a rookie

[stanford hoops]

So because he gets his shot blocked a couple of times against the number one shot blocking team in the nation  while getting double teamed every trip hes less of a player?..lol  it doesnt matter if you pump fake if a help side defender is blocking youre shot while youre getting double teamed. I doubt he will have to worry about getting a bunch of double teams in the NBA as a rookie

[stanford hoops]

So because he gets his shot blocked a couple of times against the number one shot blocking team in the nation  while getting double teamed every trip hes less of a player?..lol  it doesnt matter if you pump fake if a help side defender is blocking youre shot while youre getting double teamed. I doubt he will have to worry about getting a bunch of double teams in the NBA as a rookie

[JoeWolf1]

Brand was a freak though, he had a 7’5.5” in wingspan which allowed him to play taller than Sullinger IMO, I also remember when the Bulls drafted Brand they made a big deal about how big and strong his hands were, it was like he was holding an orange almost.  Brand was a top notch shot blocker despite his average leaping ability because of that wingspan it allowed him to do a lot.

You can tell Sullinger has a long wingspan, but i don’t think it’s Brandesque.  

As a freshman Mike Sweetney averaged 12 and 7 for a 25 win Georgetown team.  Sullinger reminds me of him, only with better defensive fundamentals.

[JoeWolf1]

Brand was a freak though, he had a 7’5.5” in wingspan which allowed him to play taller than Sullinger IMO, I also remember when the Bulls drafted Brand they made a big deal about how big and strong his hands were, it was like he was holding an orange almost.  Brand was a top notch shot blocker despite his average leaping ability because of that wingspan it allowed him to do a lot.

You can tell Sullinger has a long wingspan, but i don’t think it’s Brandesque.  

As a freshman Mike Sweetney averaged 12 and 7 for a 25 win Georgetown team.  Sullinger reminds me of him, only with better defensive fundamentals.

[JoeWolf1]

Brand was a freak though, he had a 7’5.5” in wingspan which allowed him to play taller than Sullinger IMO, I also remember when the Bulls drafted Brand they made a big deal about how big and strong his hands were, it was like he was holding an orange almost.  Brand was a top notch shot blocker despite his average leaping ability because of that wingspan it allowed him to do a lot.

You can tell Sullinger has a long wingspan, but i don’t think it’s Brandesque.  

As a freshman Mike Sweetney averaged 12 and 7 for a 25 win Georgetown team.  Sullinger reminds me of him, only with better defensive fundamentals.

[stanford hoops]

Yeah i doubt he has brand like arms. Sweetney was about the same as brand as a freshman so that isnt far off

[stanford hoops]

Yeah i doubt he has brand like arms. Sweetney was about the same as brand as a freshman so that isnt far off

[stanford hoops]

Yeah i doubt he has brand like arms. Sweetney was about the same as brand as a freshman so that isnt far off

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Brand was a very good athlete, nowhere near like the player he is today. He used to dunk all over people in the post. He was also quicker than a lot of the 4s guarding him. I don’t think Sullinger is the athlete Brand was.

I think he’s a little bit similar to Kevin Love.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Brand was a very good athlete, nowhere near like the player he is today. He used to dunk all over people in the post. He was also quicker than a lot of the 4s guarding him. I don’t think Sullinger is the athlete Brand was.

I think he’s a little bit similar to Kevin Love.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Brand was a very good athlete, nowhere near like the player he is today. He used to dunk all over people in the post. He was also quicker than a lot of the 4s guarding him. I don’t think Sullinger is the athlete Brand was.

I think he’s a little bit similar to Kevin Love.

[stanford hoops]

Brand didnt dunk all over people as a freshman. Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

[stanford hoops]

Brand didnt dunk all over people as a freshman. Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

[stanford hoops]

Brand didnt dunk all over people as a freshman. Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

[stanford hoops]

I can agree with the similar to love as a freshman. Love was better then elton brand as a freshman

[stanford hoops]

I can agree with the similar to love as a freshman. Love was better then elton brand as a freshman

[stanford hoops]

I can agree with the similar to love as a freshman. Love was better then elton brand as a freshman

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Oh I meant in the NBA, I believe he lost a little bit of weight his first couple years in the league, and that really helped him as an athlete. Although I still think he was a little bit better of an athlete than Sullinger, even in college. I don’t remember his freshman year all that well though.

But yes, Love was better as a college freshman than Brand. Brand was good his first year, but he didn’t really dominate until his sophomore season when he was NPOY.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Oh I meant in the NBA, I believe he lost a little bit of weight his first couple years in the league, and that really helped him as an athlete. Although I still think he was a little bit better of an athlete than Sullinger, even in college. I don’t remember his freshman year all that well though.

But yes, Love was better as a college freshman than Brand. Brand was good his first year, but he didn’t really dominate until his sophomore season when he was NPOY.

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

Oh I meant in the NBA, I believe he lost a little bit of weight his first couple years in the league, and that really helped him as an athlete. Although I still think he was a little bit better of an athlete than Sullinger, even in college. I don’t remember his freshman year all that well though.

But yes, Love was better as a college freshman than Brand. Brand was good his first year, but he didn’t really dominate until his sophomore season when he was NPOY.

[stanford hoops]

I think sullinger will become a better athlete once he starts the nba training programs. he’s already getting it and dunking it off the vert or drop step pretty nicely

Love would have more than likely gone along that same path seeing as he was first team allamerican as a freshman while help leading that team to the final four. Something Sulinger might do as well

[stanford hoops]

I think sullinger will become a better athlete once he starts the nba training programs. he’s already getting it and dunking it off the vert or drop step pretty nicely

Love would have more than likely gone along that same path seeing as he was first team allamerican as a freshman while help leading that team to the final four. Something Sulinger might do as well

[stanford hoops]

I think sullinger will become a better athlete once he starts the nba training programs. he’s already getting it and dunking it off the vert or drop step pretty nicely

Love would have more than likely gone along that same path seeing as he was first team allamerican as a freshman while help leading that team to the final four. Something Sulinger might do as well

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

end of freakin story…..he labored for a double double in a hard fought defensive game where he was being double teamed by one of the best defensive frontcourts in the country…..please show your ignorance by pointing me down like you did stanford…..

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

end of freakin story…..he labored for a double double in a hard fought defensive game where he was being double teamed by one of the best defensive frontcourts in the country…..please show your ignorance by pointing me down like you did stanford…..

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

end of freakin story…..he labored for a double double in a hard fought defensive game where he was being double teamed by one of the best defensive frontcourts in the country…..please show your ignorance by pointing me down like you did stanford…..

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/ohio-state-v-florida

stanfordhoops-

"I doubt sullinger has any problems with those big men. He’s been killing those same guys since he was a soph. And taller doesn’t mean better defender. Interesting enough the better big men defenders are usually shorter then 7feet. Plus with sullinger he can step out and hit the jumper as well as handle the ball and drive. Think Elton brand with a mix of Kevin love jumper. When a big man is very skilled and big in college height isn’t as much as a problem. Especially when that big man is bigger on the lowe body and most Likely stronger. I predict foul trouble for the gophers and fighting illini big men. It will be interesting to watch though.  I see the other teams having more of a match up problem against Ohio state like last year except now Ohio at can score downlow consistantly"

Pro coaching, a solid defensive scheme, and great length are going to bother 18 year old freshman who has not seen that combination before. Sullinger was not particularly good, but he was the focus of FSU’s gameplan, and opened up a few scores for Craft because his man didn’t leave to help. Ohio State did enough to win an incredibly ugly game, but my point remains that teams with that kind of length are going to be hard on them. Florida State hasn’t been able to hit a shot since they started playing real comp, Illinois and Minnesota have and will.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/ohio-state-v-florida

stanfordhoops-

"I doubt sullinger has any problems with those big men. He’s been killing those same guys since he was a soph. And taller doesn’t mean better defender. Interesting enough the better big men defenders are usually shorter then 7feet. Plus with sullinger he can step out and hit the jumper as well as handle the ball and drive. Think Elton brand with a mix of Kevin love jumper. When a big man is very skilled and big in college height isn’t as much as a problem. Especially when that big man is bigger on the lowe body and most Likely stronger. I predict foul trouble for the gophers and fighting illini big men. It will be interesting to watch though.  I see the other teams having more of a match up problem against Ohio state like last year except now Ohio at can score downlow consistantly"

Pro coaching, a solid defensive scheme, and great length are going to bother 18 year old freshman who has not seen that combination before. Sullinger was not particularly good, but he was the focus of FSU’s gameplan, and opened up a few scores for Craft because his man didn’t leave to help. Ohio State did enough to win an incredibly ugly game, but my point remains that teams with that kind of length are going to be hard on them. Florida State hasn’t been able to hit a shot since they started playing real comp, Illinois and Minnesota have and will.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Sullinger was double teamed the whole game. i dont really expect any good freshman big man to put up very good numbers while getting double teamed the whole game against the number one shot blocking team in the nation

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/ohio-state-v-florida

stanfordhoops-

"I doubt sullinger has any problems with those big men. He’s been killing those same guys since he was a soph. And taller doesn’t mean better defender. Interesting enough the better big men defenders are usually shorter then 7feet. Plus with sullinger he can step out and hit the jumper as well as handle the ball and drive. Think Elton brand with a mix of Kevin love jumper. When a big man is very skilled and big in college height isn’t as much as a problem. Especially when that big man is bigger on the lowe body and most Likely stronger. I predict foul trouble for the gophers and fighting illini big men. It will be interesting to watch though.  I see the other teams having more of a match up problem against Ohio state like last year except now Ohio at can score downlow consistantly"

Pro coaching, a solid defensive scheme, and great length are going to bother 18 year old freshman who has not seen that combination before. Sullinger was not particularly good, but he was the focus of FSU’s gameplan, and opened up a few scores for Craft because his man didn’t leave to help. Ohio State did enough to win an incredibly ugly game, but my point remains that teams with that kind of length are going to be hard on them. Florida State hasn’t been able to hit a shot since they started playing real comp, Illinois and Minnesota have and will.

[stanford hoops]

exactly, when he gets it one on one he has no problem the problem comes when he’s doubled and triple teammed which is expected when going against a guy that skilled. The down side is Ohio st has good enough players to make a team pay for doing that.

[stanford hoops]

exactly, when he gets it one on one he has no problem the problem comes when he’s doubled and triple teammed which is expected when going against a guy that skilled. The down side is Ohio st has good enough players to make a team pay for doing that.

[stanford hoops]

exactly, when he gets it one on one he has no problem the problem comes when he’s doubled and triple teammed which is expected when going against a guy that skilled. The down side is Ohio st has good enough players to make a team pay for doing that.

[stanford hoops]

Something that wasnt mentioned was the great defense sullinger played on Singleton and the great rebounding he did while being  the main Focus of FSU

[stanford hoops]

Something that wasnt mentioned was the great defense sullinger played on Singleton and the great rebounding he did while being  the main Focus of FSU

[stanford hoops]

Something that wasnt mentioned was the great defense sullinger played on Singleton and the great rebounding he did while being  the main Focus of FSU

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