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  • #37407
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    bdiddy5115
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    Anyone else find him incredibly underrated?

    6-8 260, fantastic passer and ball handler for his size, has great touch and is a quality rebounder, and just an all around cerebral and smart player. He has literally played everything from PG (surprisingly often) to the C spot, and the Iowa St team relies on him to do so much. He’s an underrated athlete who just threw down a nasty dunk to open the U-Conn game.

    He uses his body well, but has the fluidity to play outside in college. He averages around 1 bpg and spg per game.

    Along with Draymond Green, he’s one of the most unique/versatile players in CBB. Why isn’t he a late-1st round prospect?

    (I heard some character concerns, but that’s anxiety – which is overblown)

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  • #647785
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    Future_Scout

     i got him 2nd in the 2nd… he might crack the 1st 

    bothteamsplayedhard would argue he can go all the way to the lotto.

     

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  • #647788
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    ilike.panochas
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    Someone here made a comparison to Anthony Mason, that is the closest comparison so far.

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  • #647796
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    Future_Scout

     ummm…. bothteamsplayedhard got him in the lotto.

     

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  • #647797
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    Hale
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     BTPH is never wrong though, so that means he’s that good.

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  • #647798
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    Future_Scout

    lol, here, neg me some more for stating facts

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  • #647814
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    Dale Worthington
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    I would take him in the lottery.

    He’s a playmaking version of Prince Paul Millsap.

    Those handles, court vision, and passion skills at that size…just freaky deaky dutch!

    And his bounce is underrated too.

    The only thing he needs to work on is outside shooting.

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  • #647809
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    NotHamedHaddadi
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    I think he is similar to Boris Diaw,both great passing big men

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  • #647812
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    JoeWolf1

     He’s a talented guy, no doubt, I feel his conditioning and weight issues will effect his stock.  I think he’ll be a late 1st rounder or very early 2nd rounder, but that doesn’t mean he’s the 30th best guy in the draft.

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  • #647813
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    Hale
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    He’s a lot more fluid then I remember. You don’t see guys his size move the way he does is transition. When I met him a few years ago he looked terrible.

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  • #647817
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    Grandmama
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    Nice comparison DJ, Boris Diaw is also who he reminds me of.  That’s the 240 lb Diaw, not the 300+ Diaw.  If Royce White develops an outside shot look out.

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  • #647820
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    fliptonn
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    huge hands, moves well for a big guy, seems like a very good leader on the court which having a big that can direct traffic is very valuable. 

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  • #647847
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    Tiger1313
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    Agreed he is VERY unique and can handle it rebound and is athletic. However, he can’t hit an outside shot let alone a free throw(49%). Defenders that are bigger and more athletic than him will be able to stay back on him and not let him drive. I think he could be a somewhat effective NBA player though. Intriguing combination.

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  • #647869
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    Knicksboy42
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     Difference between White and Charles Garcia?

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  • #647878
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Did Charles Garcia run his teams offense and average 5 assists per game? He is much stronger than Charles, this guy played excellent today and I think he has much more of a legit skill set than Garcia. His skill set is really rare, court vision, can put the ball on the floor and his offensive game has potential. How is he similar to Charles Garcia is the better question? 

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  • #647894
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    Think about what Royce White did to the Big Twelve play at IOWA STATE! He led a Cyclone team that was 3-14 in league games last year to a 12-7 mark with wins over Kansas, K-State, and Baylor. In the conference, he was 17th in scoring, 2nd in rebounds, 8th in offensive rebounds, 3rd in FG%, 4th in assists, 12th in steals, 15th in blocked shots, 7th in assist-to-turnover, and did so in 32 minutes which is not a ton for a guy among the leaders in everything. They are now in the second round of the NCAA tournament. I’m just curious, what more do people want him to do? He is good. He is big, skilled, smart, unselfish, and as tough a matchup as anyone.

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  • #647899
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    Knicksboy42
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    I’m not saying it was terrible or anything, I’m very impressed with his White’s skills, there’s just some of Garcia there IMO. He’s a bigger forward who can bring the ball up the court, which Garcia did at Seattle. White is a better passer/playmaker, while Garcia was raw in that area. Other then that, I sorta see the same thing in the sense. Big rebounders, I didn’t feel like neither were number one level scorers moving to the next level (Garcia proved to be nothing at the next level) and in White’s case, he’s undersized. 

    He has upside, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was Boris Diaw at the next level, a nice complementary piece who does all things good, nothing great. I saw Garcia as that same type of player to be honest. 

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  • #647898
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    BlueLaces
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    His character issues are more than just anxiety and started before college.  He was kicked out of  De La Salle here in MPLS before he went to Hopkins.  Then when he went to the Gophers, he got caught stealing a pair of jeans from MOA and pushed a security guard, then was also suspected of stealing lap tops from the dorms.  Even after all that happened, he posted a series of youtube videos which were just weird.  There is no denying he is a talented player, but I think another year of school would serve him best.

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  • #647903
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    Knicksboy42
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     Also, Chris Allen should get some love for helping Iowa State get to this point as well. 

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  • #647908
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    Dale Worthington
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    BlueLaces, are the weird YouTube videos still up?

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  • #647913
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    Chris Allen had a great game tonight, but he hasn’t really had a good year. When they were competing with the best teams in the league, he wasn’t the one coming through.

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  • #647948
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    RUDEBOY_
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    The look on Drummond & Oriaki’s faces when he took the ball full court and dunked on them is priceless….Had they not seen film of this guy?   hahahaha..

    White is a unique talent..Plays alot like Anthony Mason,but he might have better court vision then Mason..He could go anywhere from 15 to 35….But the thing i like about him is that he always seems to make the correct play at the correct time….And like JoeWolf said scouts are worried about his conditioning…He has the frame that can easily pack on the lbs, if he doesnt become committed to staying in shape…

    I was watching the game with some friends and 1 of them said he wouldnt waste a 1st or 2nd round pick  on White..Becuz White is going to Fool alot of people into thinking he’s a future all star and end up a bust,just like former Cyclone player Marcus Fizer…

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  • #648020
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "He has the frame that can easily pack on the lbs, if he doesnt become committed to staying in shape…"

    That is three-quarters of all pro athletes, and one guy for whom nobody would have said that prior to getting into the NBA was Boris Diaw. Did anyone see J.J. Hickson getting plump when he was at NC State? I’m not taking a unskilled player over a good one because of fear that the good one could possibly get fat. That is why a guy like Marc Gasol falls into the 2nd round. Draft me the players with talent, and I have to believe it is easier to put together an organization where the staff and training facility can promote good health and living, especially when dealing with a guy who is playing huge high usage high productivity minutes after being out of the game for two years. 

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  • #648032
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    BlueLaces
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     I’m not sure. I’m sure you can search and find them. They were made when he was suspended at the U and were of him basically trying to promote an entertainment company he was trying to start up.

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  • #648677
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    Alexmh2011
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     Charlotte Bobcats anyone? I think he’d be a great fit for the bobcats.

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