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  • #37345
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Here were my 2011 Pre-Tournament rankings. Did not turn out too badly:

    http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/pre-tournament-2011-draft-postion-rankings

    So, thought, why not make another one? Same rules as last year top 10 at every position, and maybe some predictions as too who will improve their tourney stock by their ranking. These are overall rankings, not just players in the NCAA tournament, but every available prospect. Also, if I do not list a player, it may be because I see them as being a 2012 draft prospect, unless of course that player is a senior, than I just feel their are better prospects at that position.

    PG

    1. Tony Wroten (Since scouts insist on calling him a PG, though I think he is more of a SG)

    2. Marquis Teague

    3. Damian Lillard

    4. Kendall Marshall

    5. Tyshawn Taylor

    6. Maalik Wayns

    7. Scott Machado

    8. Darius Johnson-Odom

    9. Jordan Taylor

    10. Tu Holloway

     

    SG

    1. Jeremy Lamb

    2. Bradley Beal

    3. Austin Rivers

    4. Terrence Ross

    5. Dion Waiters

    6. William Buford

    7. Doron Lamb

    8. Marcus Denmon

    9. John Jenkins

    10. Tomas Satoransky

     

    SF

    1. Harrison Barnes

    2. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

    3. Quincy Miller

    4. Moe Harkless

    5. Tony Mitchell

    6. Terrence Jones

    7. Jeffery Taylor

    8. Draymond Green

    9. Kris Joseph

    10. Darius Miller

     

    PF

    1. Anthony Davis

    2. Jared Sullinger

    3. Thomas Robinson

    4. Perry Jones III

    5. John Henson

    6. Arnett Moultrie

    7. Royce White

    8. Kevin Jones

    9. Andrew Nicholson

    10. Drew Gordon

     

    C

    1. Andre Drummond

    2. Tyler Zeller

    3. Meyers Leonard

    4. Fab Melo

    5. Patric Young

    6. Bernard James

    7. Festus Ezeli

    8. Henry Sims

    9. Dejan Musli

    10. Jeff Withey

     

    A lot will depend on who stays and who goes, but this is just a rough list before the tournament starts. PG’s and C’s in this draft will be few and far between. However, the NBA’s most loaded position, PF, seems to have a good amount of depth. Overall, it is a decent draft, but I do not think it will live up to the hype that many have given it. A lot of solid players, not too many knock your socks off stars.

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  • #647036
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    Memphis Madness
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    It looks like there will be a lot of rotation guys with some 6th men and fringe all-star types mixed in.  I think there are gonna be a lot of guys who would be good picks for the Rookie-Sophs game next year. 

    There is a lot of talent out there with Davis, Drummond, MKG, Barnes, Rivers, Lamb, PJIII, Sullinger, and others.  It just depends on if there are no busts and if the guys with high ceilings live up to their potential.

    I also think that these guys have to go to teams that fit their styles and will give them minutes.  If the new-look Bucks can draft a solid center (Fab Melo or Zeller) or a small forward who falls (Perry Jones?) then that guy will get some great looks and an opportunity to succeed.  However, if they get another power forward who projects as a rotation guy (Terrence Jones, for example) then I think they will languish.

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  • #647041
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    Hi its Ben
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     Wroten the #1 PG? I dunno about that..

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  • #647043
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    JoeWolf1

    Upside be damned,  I’d get really nervous taking a point guard, with injury history who shoots 57% from the line and turns the ball over almost 4 times a game, at the collegiate level.

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  • #647060
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    PrecociousNeophyte
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     "Also, if I do not list a player, it may be because I see them as being a 2012 draft prospect, unless of course that player is a senior, than I just feel their are better prospects at that position."

    I think you mean 2013 right?

    I guess that is why you did not include Kabongo? Where would you have put him if you did include him in this list?

     

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  • #647065
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    SwatLakeCity
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    PG

    1. Damian Lillard
    2. Kendall Marshall
    3. Marquis Teague
    4. Kabongo (see my explanation for the younger of the Zeller brothers below)
    5. Wayns
    6. Machado
    7. Canaan
    8. Tyshawn Taylor
    9. Johnson-Odom
    10. Jorge Gutierrez

    SG

    1. Beal
    2. Jeremy Lamb
    3. Rivers
    4. Wroten (see explanation for the younger of the Zeller brothers below)
    5. Waiters
    6. Doron Lamb
    7. Jenkins
    8. Buford
    9. Alex Young (I consider him more of a SF but I couldn’t leave him out nor could I leave out Draymond Green off of the SF or Ridardo Ratliff off of the PF so I’ll put him in as a SG)
    10. Marcus Denmon

    SF

    1. Barnes
    2. Gilchrist
    3. Harkless (see explanation for the younger of the Zeller brothers below)
    4. Terrance Ross
    5. Quincy Miller (see explanation for the younger of the Zeller brothers below)
    6. Jeff Taylor
    7. Tony Mitchell
    8. McDermott
    9. Kris Joseph
    10. Draymond Green

    PF

    1. Anthony Davis
    2. Sullinger
    3. Thomas Robinson
    4. Moultrie
    5. Perry Jones III
    6. John Henson
    7. Patrik Young
    8. Nicholson
    9. Kevin Jones
    10. Ratliffe

    C

    1. Andre Drummond
    2. Cody Zeller (currently I have the younger Zeller out of my mock draft and big board because I think he’ll be a 2013 prospect, but since the above post asked where Kabongo would be ranked if he is a 2012 prospect I’ll include Kabongo, Quincy Miller, Moe Harkless, Tony Wroten, and Cody Zeller in my rankings)
    3. Meyers Leonard
    4. Fab Melo (not quite sure if I should leave him out since he’s ineligible for the tourney but since the creator of this post included him, I’ll include him as well)
    5. Tyler Zeller
    6. Festus Ezeli
    7. Henry Sims
    8. Yancy Gates
    9. Robert Sacre
    10. Renardo Sidney
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  • #647141
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I agree with people who have incredible concerns about him as a PG. But, this draft is a terrible PG draft and if people consider Wroten a PG, I think he is the best prospect of the bunch. His outside shooting needs a lot of work and his FT shooting is discouraging for a PG, but he is a fantastic scorer and a creative set-up man. He is a good athlete with solid size, but I honestly see him as more of a 2 than a 1.

    I did mean 2013, I copied it from last year, lol. Yes, I did not include Kabongo, Cody Zeller and some others who I think might end up staying in college. This list is definitely subject to change, but I just thought it had been a while since we really posted a list of who the top draft prospects were to actually see whether the supposed depth of this draft is truly as great as many have made it out to be. With this being said, if I needed a PG this year, don’t think I would want one before the 20’s.

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  • #647145
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    I mean, he is one of the most skilled bigman right now in college and he’s a freshman, I know he’s probally not in a rush to go to the pros but wouldn’t he be a very high pick this year…I mean, he looks like he’s still got room to grow as far as being a fulltime NBA center goes but he;d be the best True Center in this Draft…Where would he go if he were to declare???

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  • #647153
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    billyk
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    Fab Melo would fit in great with the Heat!

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  • #647216
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    Dale Worthington
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    MVtD, why Teague over Marshall and Rivers over Ross?

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  • #647235
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    SwatLakeCity
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    Forgot to add a player, Terrance Jones of Kentucky, not quite sure how I forgot him. I’d probably put him in the SF’s behind Quincy Miller but ahead of Jeff Taylor. Which means Draymond Green falls to #11.

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  • #647334
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    PG
    1. K. Marshall
    2. A. Craft
    3. L. Brown
    4. T. Taylor
    5. M. Teague
    6. T. Burke
    7. M. Dellavedova
    8. R. Boatright
    9. D. Lillard
    10. J. Taylor
    11. S. Machado
    12. A. Collins
    13. R. McCallum
    14. M. Kabongo
    15. K. Williams

    SG
    1. J.Lamb
    2. A. Rivers
    3. T. Ross
    4. T. Wroten
    5. D. Lamb
    6. W. Buford
    7. B. Beal
    8. J. Jenkins
    9. M. Snaer
    10. B. Young
    11. D. Waiters
    12. W. Barton
    13. D. Miller
    14. T. Stoglin
    15. M. Denmon

    SF
    1. H. Barnes
    2. M. Kidd-Gilchrist
    3. Q. Miller
    4. P. Jones
    5. R. Bullock
    6. T. Jones
    7. T. Mitchell
    8. J. Crowder
    9. D. McDermott
    10. M. Harkless
    11. K. Joseph
    12. O. Porter
    13. H. Thiompson
    14. C. Stanback
    15. J. Taylor

    PF
    1. A. Davis
    2. C. Zeller
    3. R. White
    4. J. Sullinger
    5. T. Robinson
    6. T. Mbakwe
    7. A. Moultrie
    8. K. Jones
    9. J. Henson
    10. D. Green
    11. M. Scott
    12. A. Nicholson
    13. A. Oriakhi
    14. R. Ratliffe
    15. Y. Gates

    C
    1. A. Drummond
    2. T. Zeller
    3. M. Leonard
    4. B. James
    5. Ma. Plumlee
    6. P. Young
    7. B. Davies
    8. H. Sims
    9. G. Stutz
    10. R. Johnson
    11. R. Sacre
    12. J. Smith
    13. R. Sidney
    14. F. Melo
    15. J. Withey

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