[Moon RiverParticipant]

Wow.  As Reported by Marc Stein (via twitter).

[prophetmeirParticipant]

Crazy as all ! I thought it would be Brandon Jennings after his comments on Stan, Makes room for them to sign Greg Monroe to long term deal and have him be the starter with no questions. Josh to lakers or Sac

[prophetmeirParticipant]

Crazy as all ! I thought it would be Brandon Jennings after his comments on Stan, Makes room for them to sign Greg Monroe to long term deal and have him be the starter with no questions. Josh to lakers or Sac

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Where is the bright spot for a move to L.A.?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Where is the bright spot for a move to L.A.?

[juves4783Participant]

gotta believe houston and miami will give chase too.

[juves4783Participant]

gotta believe houston and miami will give chase too.

[juves4783Participant]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12066086/detroit-pistons-release-josh-smith

[juves4783Participant]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12066086/detroit-pistons-release-josh-smith

[JordoParticipant]

 Guess brandon jennings is next…

[JordoParticipant]

 Guess brandon jennings is next…

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 How long do you think he will actually sit in the waivers pool?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 How long do you think he will actually sit in the waivers pool?

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 Even more important… does he get picked up at that salary? I think everyone will wait for him to come off waivers.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Realistically speaking (Emphasis on realistically). Who makes Jennings a priority for the punch in their second unit?

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Realistically speaking (Emphasis on realistically). Who makes Jennings a priority for the punch in their second unit?

 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 Even more important… does he get picked up at that salary? I think everyone will wait for him to come off waivers.

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Wow.. Crazy. I think Houston is his best bet, his best friends are Dwight Howard and Rondo. So maybe a Texas team. But I see the Warriors as a dark horse

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Wow.. Crazy. I think Houston is his best bet, his best friends are Dwight Howard and Rondo. So maybe a Texas team. But I see the Warriors as a dark horse

[phila9012Participant]

 I hope the kings get him. He is the piece they are missing. A collison, mclemore(who is shooting pretty well this year) g@y, smith, cousins could steal a plyoff spot.

Also as long as he stops shooting long 2s and plays to his strengths he would be a great fit in toronto as well. They are the top team in the east and he would instantly be a clear upgrade over amir johnson. I hope he goes to someone in the east because the west is stacked as it is.

 

[phila9012Participant]

 I hope the kings get him. He is the piece they are missing. A collison, mclemore(who is shooting pretty well this year) g@y, smith, cousins could steal a plyoff spot.

Also as long as he stops shooting long 2s and plays to his strengths he would be a great fit in toronto as well. They are the top team in the east and he would instantly be a clear upgrade over amir johnson. I hope he goes to someone in the east because the west is stacked as it is.

 

[qDizzle32Participant]

As a Kings fan, I hope we can get Josh Smith, but a part of me is saying that I don’t think it would work very well. The Kings have been needing an upgrade at the PF position over Jason Thompson for quite some time now, which is also Smith’s true position as he was much better in Atlanta because he wasn’t playing the SF all the time. I’m not sure how the waivers system works but if he clears and he wants to sign with the Kings, I see a lot of pros and cons. Smith no question could help us make the playoffs this year, but having him could take away a lot of shots from Rudy Gay and Cousins who has nearly been unguardable in the post. Don’t get me wrong, Cousins has matured a lot this year, but having Smith and Cousins together could cause some really big issues for the rest of the team.

[qDizzle32Participant]

As a Kings fan, I hope we can get Josh Smith, but a part of me is saying that I don’t think it would work very well. The Kings have been needing an upgrade at the PF position over Jason Thompson for quite some time now, which is also Smith’s true position as he was much better in Atlanta because he wasn’t playing the SF all the time. I’m not sure how the waivers system works but if he clears and he wants to sign with the Kings, I see a lot of pros and cons. Smith no question could help us make the playoffs this year, but having him could take away a lot of shots from Rudy Gay and Cousins who has nearly been unguardable in the post. Don’t get me wrong, Cousins has matured a lot this year, but having Smith and Cousins together could cause some really big issues for the rest of the team.

[GBeeParticipant]

josh smith isn’t the missing piece to any team who has aspirations of winning.  he’s a dumb, lazy player on both ends of the floor.

[GBeeParticipant]

josh smith isn’t the missing piece to any team who has aspirations of winning.  he’s a dumb, lazy player on both ends of the floor.

[ropeParticipant]

Something extreme must have happened. Since I don’t have to pay the $26 million, I am glad to see him go. They weren’t going to get anything for him in a trade for him anyway.

[ropeParticipant]

Something extreme must have happened. Since I don’t have to pay the $26 million, I am glad to see him go. They weren’t going to get anything for him in a trade for him anyway.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Salute to life after Joe Dumars!

Stan Van Gundy… You are the real MVE!

Greg Monroe is currently rubbing hands like Birdman.

 

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Salute to life after Joe Dumars!

Stan Van Gundy… You are the real MVE!

Greg Monroe is currently rubbing hands like Birdman.

 

 

[cp5Participant]

 If he could accept being a 3rd/4th option I think he would do well with either team.

Miami w/o McRoberts and San Antonio could use his athleticism 

[cp5Participant]

 If he could accept being a 3rd/4th option I think he would do well with either team.

Miami w/o McRoberts and San Antonio could use his athleticism 

[phila9012Participant]

 Another thing, Monroe took way less money to be an unrestricted free agent this year. He also could look elsewhere like the knicks where he would also be a good fit in the triangle offense and they have carmelo. Or really any other team who has cap space. I don’t know how he feels about the organization now after that situation last summer. I think he is going to leave, you don’t take 8 million less to become an unrestricted free agent and then stay with that team. What do you guys think monroe does? 

[phila9012Participant]

 Another thing, Monroe took way less money to be an unrestricted free agent this year. He also could look elsewhere like the knicks where he would also be a good fit in the triangle offense and they have carmelo. Or really any other team who has cap space. I don’t know how he feels about the organization now after that situation last summer. I think he is going to leave, you don’t take 8 million less to become an unrestricted free agent and then stay with that team. What do you guys think monroe does? 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

Smith’s release could be an endorsement of Monroe by Stan Van Gundy. Him and Drummond work really well together (on offense, at least) and even if they don’t fit his scheme perfectly together, they do not have to share the court for the entire game. I’d be a little surprised if he doesn’t get the max from them and if not, they can’t let him walk for nothing. The Knicks would be a solid fit, and I think Phenoix could be too. Maybe flip him for Goran? (I wouldn’t do this trade if I were the Suns but it’s been speculated in the media)

[ballislyfe25Participant]

Smith’s release could be an endorsement of Monroe by Stan Van Gundy. Him and Drummond work really well together (on offense, at least) and even if they don’t fit his scheme perfectly together, they do not have to share the court for the entire game. I’d be a little surprised if he doesn’t get the max from them and if not, they can’t let him walk for nothing. The Knicks would be a solid fit, and I think Phenoix could be too. Maybe flip him for Goran? (I wouldn’t do this trade if I were the Suns but it’s been speculated in the media)

[GBeeParticipant]

so what? there are much better situations elsewhere. detroit is a dumpster fire. bc he’s unrestricted he can get paid just as well AND choose a better location/team situation. as long as he doesnt get injured, the ball is in his court. 

[GBeeParticipant]

so what? there are much better situations elsewhere. detroit is a dumpster fire. bc he’s unrestricted he can get paid just as well AND choose a better location/team situation. as long as he doesnt get injured, the ball is in his court. 

[juves4783Participant]

i wouldn’t be surprised if monroe bolts either way.  with the amount of bigs in this draft, i think they may just be moving assets and rebuilding around drummond and kcp.  i guess i still wouldn’t be shocked if monroe is moved.  

i would love a scenario where tim duncan retires and monroe steps into his spot.  

 

 

 

[juves4783Participant]

i wouldn’t be surprised if monroe bolts either way.  with the amount of bigs in this draft, i think they may just be moving assets and rebuilding around drummond and kcp.  i guess i still wouldn’t be shocked if monroe is moved.  

i would love a scenario where tim duncan retires and monroe steps into his spot.  

 

 

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 I’ve had a dream for quite some time for Monroe to tap into his inner "Fundamental"… I literally see the left handed version of Timmy when I look at Monroe, he just has to see it for himself.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 I’ve had a dream for quite some time for Monroe to tap into his inner "Fundamental"… I literally see the left handed version of Timmy when I look at Monroe, he just has to see it for himself.

[ReekoParticipant]

 Initially looking at Smith’s stats for season I was surprised that they couldn’t figure something out with another team to get something in return for the guy.  He’s averaging 13 ppg 7rpg and 4.5 apg with 1spg and 1.5bpg.  Those are very solid numbers, so I then dug deeper into his stats, and he’s hitting 39% fg and 24% 3p fg, but the most egregious stat I found was his 46% free throw percentage.  I’m sure that there are teams out there that will take a chance on him, but this dude 10 years into his career is still more potential than actual substance as a basketball player because let’s face it, Josh Smith does what he wants when he wants on a basketball court, not what the coach or team needs him to do.

[ReekoParticipant]

 Initially looking at Smith’s stats for season I was surprised that they couldn’t figure something out with another team to get something in return for the guy.  He’s averaging 13 ppg 7rpg and 4.5 apg with 1spg and 1.5bpg.  Those are very solid numbers, so I then dug deeper into his stats, and he’s hitting 39% fg and 24% 3p fg, but the most egregious stat I found was his 46% free throw percentage.  I’m sure that there are teams out there that will take a chance on him, but this dude 10 years into his career is still more potential than actual substance as a basketball player because let’s face it, Josh Smith does what he wants when he wants on a basketball court, not what the coach or team needs him to do.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

 There are so many fits for him but this guy is such a risk for a contending team to pick up. He would do great in Memphis as a backup but I can’t see Smith accepting a bench role and I don’t think Memphis would risk their chemistry, which we know is an issue with him.

Miami would be a nice fit, San Antonio too. There are probably a solid 8-10 teams that will be looking at him but he’s really a gamble. He can guard the 3/4 spots well and his athleticism at his size is a killer, and in the right scheme makes up for his offensive shortcomings. Going to be interesting to watch this play out.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

 There are so many fits for him but this guy is such a risk for a contending team to pick up. He would do great in Memphis as a backup but I can’t see Smith accepting a bench role and I don’t think Memphis would risk their chemistry, which we know is an issue with him.

Miami would be a nice fit, San Antonio too. There are probably a solid 8-10 teams that will be looking at him but he’s really a gamble. He can guard the 3/4 spots well and his athleticism at his size is a killer, and in the right scheme makes up for his offensive shortcomings. Going to be interesting to watch this play out.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Seems like a terrible move! Not the fact they got rid of him but how they got rid of him. They will have 5.4 million dollars in cap space taken up from next year until 2019/2020. That is a ridiculous move by a guy that has had executive powers for all of 5 months. 

A top 10 protected pick was worth it to get rid of Smith. I understand the stink is still on the Dumars inspired Gordon for Maggette trade.

Sacremento and New Orleans seem like the only chances they had for a trade partner because Eric Gordon and those looney Sac town guys would be the only ones stupid enough to give Josh Smith a shot. 

I don’t understand how Carl Landry and Jason Thompson/Derrick Williams for Josh Smith straight up doesn’t work. Caron Butler and Derrick WIlliams could be thrown in as well. 

 

  

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Seems like a terrible move! Not the fact they got rid of him but how they got rid of him. They will have 5.4 million dollars in cap space taken up from next year until 2019/2020. That is a ridiculous move by a guy that has had executive powers for all of 5 months. 

A top 10 protected pick was worth it to get rid of Smith. I understand the stink is still on the Dumars inspired Gordon for Maggette trade.

Sacremento and New Orleans seem like the only chances they had for a trade partner because Eric Gordon and those looney Sac town guys would be the only ones stupid enough to give Josh Smith a shot. 

I don’t understand how Carl Landry and Jason Thompson/Derrick Williams for Josh Smith straight up doesn’t work. Caron Butler and Derrick WIlliams could be thrown in as well. 

 

  

 

[theballerwayParticipant]

but for nothing not even an expiring contract or two, no picks just  a cap hit really. His % numbers are awful though.

Bobcats could use him at the 4 too.

[theballerwayParticipant]

but for nothing not even an expiring contract or two, no picks just  a cap hit really. His % numbers are awful though.

Bobcats could use him at the 4 too.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

WoW!!! Straight Up Gangsta Move by SVG!!

 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

WoW!!! Straight Up Gangsta Move by SVG!!

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Why are there more thumbs up the 2nd time he said it? 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Why are there more thumbs up the 2nd time he said it? 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

WoW!!! Straight Up Gangsta Move by SVG!!

 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

WoW!!! Straight Up Gangsta Move by SVG!!

 

[220Participant]

 I thought it was a joke, very surprising they couldn’t manage to deal him somewhere.

[GBeeParticipant]

they’d probably have to give up additional assets for another team to take on his contract. he’s a truly shtty player who’s value was at an all time low.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 But they did give up assets. They gave up a 5.4 asset that could be used for trades, absorbing a salary or signing a player from now till 2020. I mean 2020. Besides they keep his 13.5 million dollar salary on the books this year. 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

There is no asset as pertains to smith.  He was  a liability, period.  Im pretty sure svg explored all options available,  which weren’t many at all. In order to unload smith they wouldve likely had to include an asset, while taking back a bad contract  or 2 as well.  Thats how low his value was.  He had negative value so they did the right thing, cut their losses while removing a cancer. Either way they wouldve lost so it became an issue of minimizing damage. Im thinking svg is looking for a quicker turnaround, the 8 mill or so saved against the cap that could be used in fa the next 2 seasons is more valuable than the 5.4 when the cap goes up.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 But if Stan Van wasn’t coach and GM it would have never happened. A real GM would have said deal with it instead of handcuffing the teams cap until 2020. It might have been smarter to not use the stretch. Drummond is going to get at least 15 million when he comes off his rookie deal. 

Stan Van won’t even be around in 2020. Stan signed a five year deal so that’s his last year in Detroit. He could have protected the pick, Andrew Wiggins isn’t worth 26 million dollars. He should have taken Bass and Gerald Wallace when he had the chance. Danny Ainge isn’t cutting Wallace because he knows that’s stupid and a fire-able offense. 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 

5.4 is hardly handcuffing capspace. by the time the new money comes in, that’ll be the equivalent of somewhere b/t the taxpayer MLE or the LLE.

yeah, he likely won’t be around in 2020 so why make moves for the next adminstration? make near term moves to hopefully expedite a quicker turnaround. 

who knows if a bass/wallace offer was even real? the only deal with certainty that we could say was legitimately floated out there was a deal with the kings, that’s it. the recent reports following him getting waived said that the kings were the ONLY team remotely interested.

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 

5.4 is hardly handcuffing capspace. by the time the new money comes in, that’ll be the equivalent of somewhere b/t the taxpayer MLE or the LLE.

yeah, he likely won’t be around in 2020 so why make moves for the next adminstration? make near term moves to hopefully expedite a quicker turnaround. 

who knows if a bass/wallace offer was even real? the only deal with certainty that we could say was legitimately floated out there was a deal with the kings, that’s it. the recent reports following him getting waived said that the kings were the ONLY team remotely interested.

 

 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 But if Stan Van wasn’t coach and GM it would have never happened. A real GM would have said deal with it instead of handcuffing the teams cap until 2020. It might have been smarter to not use the stretch. Drummond is going to get at least 15 million when he comes off his rookie deal. 

Stan Van won’t even be around in 2020. Stan signed a five year deal so that’s his last year in Detroit. He could have protected the pick, Andrew Wiggins isn’t worth 26 million dollars. He should have taken Bass and Gerald Wallace when he had the chance. Danny Ainge isn’t cutting Wallace because he knows that’s stupid and a fire-able offense. 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

There is no asset as pertains to smith.  He was  a liability, period.  Im pretty sure svg explored all options available,  which weren’t many at all. In order to unload smith they wouldve likely had to include an asset, while taking back a bad contract  or 2 as well.  Thats how low his value was.  He had negative value so they did the right thing, cut their losses while removing a cancer. Either way they wouldve lost so it became an issue of minimizing damage. Im thinking svg is looking for a quicker turnaround, the 8 mill or so saved against the cap that could be used in fa the next 2 seasons is more valuable than the 5.4 when the cap goes up.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 But they did give up assets. They gave up a 5.4 asset that could be used for trades, absorbing a salary or signing a player from now till 2020. I mean 2020. Besides they keep his 13.5 million dollar salary on the books this year. 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

they’d probably have to give up additional assets for another team to take on his contract. he’s a truly shtty player who’s value was at an all time low.

[220Participant]

 I thought it was a joke, very surprising they couldn’t manage to deal him somewhere.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

the pistons owe him the full 13 million for this season… the remaining 27 million can be spread out over 5 yrs….it’ll give them cap relief..

 houston tried signing him when he left atl.but couldnt work out a sign & trade..they seem to be the favorites..but miami might be the better fit…

the kings have been mentioned ,but smith and rudy gay on the same team could be ugly…

i heard some say the spurs and pacers…but i doubt he wants to come off the bench..

 

while on the subject of people being let go…i’m hearing here in orlando that jacque vaughn days are numbered…..

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 It gives them no cap relief. They tie up 5.4 million in cap space till 2020. They amnestied him without the benefit of the amnesty rule.

The League may have put another amnesty option with they renegotiate after next year. 

Unless he slapped StanVan then this was a bad move. The Knicks didn’t do it with Amare because his contract in the last year could be a asset. It’s not but it could be if they wanted to take back salary. 

Since he already cost 13.5 this year that’s a wash. Next year (2015-2016) was te only time his contract would have hurt anything. His 2016-2017 contract would have been an expiring. 

 

 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 It gives them no cap relief. They tie up 5.4 million in cap space till 2020. They amnestied him without the benefit of the amnesty rule.

The League may have put another amnesty option with they renegotiate after next year. 

Unless he slapped StanVan then this was a bad move. The Knicks didn’t do it with Amare because his contract in the last year could be a asset. It’s not but it could be if they wanted to take back salary. 

Since he already cost 13.5 this year that’s a wash. Next year (2015-2016) was te only time his contract would have hurt anything. His 2016-2017 contract would have been an expiring. 

 

 

 

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

the pistons owe him the full 13 million for this season… the remaining 27 million can be spread out over 5 yrs….it’ll give them cap relief..

 houston tried signing him when he left atl.but couldnt work out a sign & trade..they seem to be the favorites..but miami might be the better fit…

the kings have been mentioned ,but smith and rudy gay on the same team could be ugly…

i heard some say the spurs and pacers…but i doubt he wants to come off the bench..

 

while on the subject of people being let go…i’m hearing here in orlando that jacque vaughn days are numbered…..

 

[ChoppyParticipant]

 Merry Christmas to all Detroit fans! 

[ChoppyParticipant]

 Merry Christmas to all Detroit fans! 

[nick5354Participant]

 Best thing Detriot has done in a while. You don’t rebuild with knuckheads, so hopefully Jennings in the next to go.

[nick5354Participant]

 Best thing Detriot has done in a while. You don’t rebuild with knuckheads, so hopefully Jennings in the next to go.

[r377Participant]

I think Josh Smith will get another year or two in the league, then be off to China. Just like Iverson, nobody wants a selfish, cancer, ball hog.

The fact that nobody (even the Kings) did not really want him in a trade tells you just how much Josh Smith is worth…..

[r377Participant]

I think Josh Smith will get another year or two in the league, then be off to China. Just like Iverson, nobody wants a selfish, cancer, ball hog.

The fact that nobody (even the Kings) did not really want him in a trade tells you just how much Josh Smith is worth…..

[r377Participant]

On the downside, the Pistons are prob going to now win a few more games, meaning their draft pick won’t be as high.

Here is hoping Monroe gets signed at a decent price, sign Dragic, then look for a SF in this years draft.

[r377Participant]

On the downside, the Pistons are prob going to now win a few more games, meaning their draft pick won’t be as high.

Here is hoping Monroe gets signed at a decent price, sign Dragic, then look for a SF in this years draft.

[HitsterParticipant]

 I was shocked to read this, I thought some team needing a PF would have taken him in return for Detroit taking an expiring deal. I guess SVG explored trade options and none were forthcoming or the asking price was too high.

The stretch option for years 3 and 4 of his contract mean Detroit won’t have a cap space hit for the next couple of years.

I assume Smith clears waivers and then the bidding starts. I’d guess he’d sign a deal until the end of the season and then consider his options. A team might offer him longer but I don’t believe they could pay lim veteran’s minimum for the rest of this season then something like MLE for the next few years when a team would have more cap space. Lets say the Knicks for example or the Rockets when they have more cap space next summer.

Does Smith immediately look to get on a contender or might there be a total curveball. Philly for example are $10 million aprox under minimum cap and have to get to that level or pay the difference. I’m not saying Sam Hinkie makes Smith a $10 million offer but lets say he dangles a deal until 2016 or 2017 with a player option in year 3 worth about $5/6 million a year. This gives Smith extra salary but is below his market value so he’d become an attractive trade target still for contenders. Hinkie takes back expiring deals and probably gets an asset for Smith. Smith plays a few weeks for Philly at PF to put himself in the shop window to try and get suitors interested.

 

 

 

 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 I would definitely respect Hinkie for a move like that. If Smith signed with Phlliy for even 3 million dollars Hinkie could fleece somebody for some asset. I do believe there is a waiting period after signing a free agent though, IDK exactly but I think its 30 days or 3 months or something. 

What if San Antonio called? I wonder what Smith would say?

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 I would definitely respect Hinkie for a move like that. If Smith signed with Phlliy for even 3 million dollars Hinkie could fleece somebody for some asset. I do believe there is a waiting period after signing a free agent though, IDK exactly but I think its 30 days or 3 months or something. 

What if San Antonio called? I wonder what Smith would say?

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

If you’re thinking in those terms, he could help the Lakers lose on a one year contract. He gets his rep up, ensures they lose, and/or maybe they end up with a trade chip. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

If you’re thinking in those terms, he could help the Lakers lose on a one year contract. He gets his rep up, ensures they lose, and/or maybe they end up with a trade chip. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 I was shocked to read this, I thought some team needing a PF would have taken him in return for Detroit taking an expiring deal. I guess SVG explored trade options and none were forthcoming or the asking price was too high.

The stretch option for years 3 and 4 of his contract mean Detroit won’t have a cap space hit for the next couple of years.

I assume Smith clears waivers and then the bidding starts. I’d guess he’d sign a deal until the end of the season and then consider his options. A team might offer him longer but I don’t believe they could pay lim veteran’s minimum for the rest of this season then something like MLE for the next few years when a team would have more cap space. Lets say the Knicks for example or the Rockets when they have more cap space next summer.

Does Smith immediately look to get on a contender or might there be a total curveball. Philly for example are $10 million aprox under minimum cap and have to get to that level or pay the difference. I’m not saying Sam Hinkie makes Smith a $10 million offer but lets say he dangles a deal until 2016 or 2017 with a player option in year 3 worth about $5/6 million a year. This gives Smith extra salary but is below his market value so he’d become an attractive trade target still for contenders. Hinkie takes back expiring deals and probably gets an asset for Smith. Smith plays a few weeks for Philly at PF to put himself in the shop window to try and get suitors interested.

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

Whoa huge fantasy basketball decisions to be made here. Josh Smith is happy though he gets that fat contract then gets to sign to a contender on a short term contract to work for another fat contract while he is still a borderline star talent wise.

Ballin!

  

[OhCanada-Participant]

Whoa huge fantasy basketball decisions to be made here. Josh Smith is happy though he gets that fat contract then gets to sign to a contender on a short term contract to work for another fat contract while he is still a borderline star talent wise.

Ballin!

  

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 All Detroit lost in the Ben Gordon/Cory Maggette trade was the right to draft Noah Vonleh. Noah freakin Vonleh. No way that’s worth 26 million dollars. he Thunder hates late first round picks just buy one from them for some early 2’s. Stan could have opted to swap firsts with Sac or Boston preRondo trade and got a deal done. 

Just because the NBA values middling first round picks means that fans should. Because half the time right after the minute they are picked they become used cars and lose half of there value. There is 15 Shane Larkins drafted every year and as picks they are as valued a asset as possible and as players they are meaningless throw ins in trades. 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 All Detroit lost in the Ben Gordon/Cory Maggette trade was the right to draft Noah Vonleh. Noah freakin Vonleh. No way that’s worth 26 million dollars. he Thunder hates late first round picks just buy one from them for some early 2’s. Stan could have opted to swap firsts with Sac or Boston preRondo trade and got a deal done. 

Just because the NBA values middling first round picks means that fans should. Because half the time right after the minute they are picked they become used cars and lose half of there value. There is 15 Shane Larkins drafted every year and as picks they are as valued a asset as possible and as players they are meaningless throw ins in trades. 

 

[Mad MaxParticipant]

The biggest reason Detroit couldn’t move Smith is because of that contract, he is a solid player when in the right position and motivated but regardless that contract makes his value super low, plus it’s hard for teams to acquire aomeone with that contract even if they wanted because of cap space. 

 

SVG is the new sherif and Smith was probably a headache all while a bad fit on the team with a terrible contract, and he figured it wise to move on and let the young guys get ample run.

 

I still think Smith can contribute and be a quality player, but you’ve got to question where his head is at, and if he’s going to show up and be a team player and play hard or come in and be a selfish cancer

[Mad MaxParticipant]

The biggest reason Detroit couldn’t move Smith is because of that contract, he is a solid player when in the right position and motivated but regardless that contract makes his value super low, plus it’s hard for teams to acquire aomeone with that contract even if they wanted because of cap space. 

 

SVG is the new sherif and Smith was probably a headache all while a bad fit on the team with a terrible contract, and he figured it wise to move on and let the young guys get ample run.

 

I still think Smith can contribute and be a quality player, but you’ve got to question where his head is at, and if he’s going to show up and be a team player and play hard or come in and be a selfish cancer

[thparadoxParticipant]

Detroit was the worst possible situation for him.

Excellent interior defender -> neutralized by Drummond’s interior D

Plays PF -> Monroe blocked his minutes there

Needs the ball in his hands (excellent passer) -> Monroe & Jennings were ball dominant

He needs to have shooters around him. -> detroit is one of the worst shooting teams in the league

I will be shocked if he doesn’t end up on Houston.

Houston is a great fit because they currently have Harden as the only shot creator. Smith can create shots and pass the ball  out to Ariza, Beverley, Harden… I think they’ll be a legit contender if he goes there, The West (probably) just got even more stacked.

Their defense would be excellent… Dwight, Smith, Ariza, Beverley are all plus defenders

 

 

 

 

[thparadoxParticipant]

Detroit was the worst possible situation for him.

Excellent interior defender -> neutralized by Drummond’s interior D

Plays PF -> Monroe blocked his minutes there

Needs the ball in his hands (excellent passer) -> Monroe & Jennings were ball dominant

He needs to have shooters around him. -> detroit is one of the worst shooting teams in the league

I will be shocked if he doesn’t end up on Houston.

Houston is a great fit because they currently have Harden as the only shot creator. Smith can create shots and pass the ball  out to Ariza, Beverley, Harden… I think they’ll be a legit contender if he goes there, The West (probably) just got even more stacked.

Their defense would be excellent… Dwight, Smith, Ariza, Beverley are all plus defenders

 

 

 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 was give Jodie Meeks a bad untradeable contract, trade for Joel Anthony and cut Josh Smith. 

In hindsight him costing Detroit that cap space could keep him from signing another mediocre player like Jodie Meeks to a deal that no one else would have offered half of. 

If cap space is so important in building a team then how is losing 5 million of it for the next five years a good thing. No matter what Detroit will be bad for the next two years so why not eat the 13 million for the next two years, instead of limiting yourself for when you plan to be good?

 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 was give Jodie Meeks a bad untradeable contract, trade for Joel Anthony and cut Josh Smith. 

In hindsight him costing Detroit that cap space could keep him from signing another mediocre player like Jodie Meeks to a deal that no one else would have offered half of. 

If cap space is so important in building a team then how is losing 5 million of it for the next five years a good thing. No matter what Detroit will be bad for the next two years so why not eat the 13 million for the next two years, instead of limiting yourself for when you plan to be good?

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

The worry for Detroit will be that Monroe walks or they have to pay him virtual max money to stay. Monroe took well market value for his one year extension and his new contract would effectively be for his prime years so could be the most important of his career so he’d want to get everything right.

Also they can renew Drummond next summer so what they offer Monroe and vice versa will impact on each others deal. Also if Monroe moves on then Drummond will be in a hugely powerful bargaining position as they could not risk losing him in the same way as Monroe.

Vonleh is still a long term prospect but Detroit lost a valuable pick to Charlotte this year, they could have had a shot at several other very good players with 9th pick.

[HitsterParticipant]

The worry for Detroit will be that Monroe walks or they have to pay him virtual max money to stay. Monroe took well market value for his one year extension and his new contract would effectively be for his prime years so could be the most important of his career so he’d want to get everything right.

Also they can renew Drummond next summer so what they offer Monroe and vice versa will impact on each others deal. Also if Monroe moves on then Drummond will be in a hugely powerful bargaining position as they could not risk losing him in the same way as Monroe.

Vonleh is still a long term prospect but Detroit lost a valuable pick to Charlotte this year, they could have had a shot at several other very good players with 9th pick.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Like who? McBuckets? That’s who they would and probably should have drafted if they had the pick but he is not a valueable asset ecause they would still be 5 and 20. 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Like who? McBuckets? That’s who they would and probably should have drafted if they had the pick but he is not a valueable asset ecause they would still be 5 and 20. 

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