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- Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:06pm #26767
kgreeley20ParticipantIf Perry Jones decides to enter the draft this year do you think that the fact he was suspended hurt his chances of being a lottery pick? I think for some teams it might matter that he was suspended, i just think it becomes a choice if the talent is high enough to deal with a player. But what does everyone else think?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:11pm #508577
HaleParticipantPersonally I don’t think so. It seems like such a minor deal and happened 2 years ago. Regardless of the incident he should go top 5.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:11pm #508578
HaleParticipantPersonally I don’t think so. It seems like such a minor deal and happened 2 years ago. Regardless of the incident he should go top 5.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:34pm #508589
BasterdInABasketParticipantLook at Cam Newton his stock has done nothing but rise since all the allegations and character concerns all of which is a lot more serious than what jones did. I figure the same thing will happen when Jones when he has all his workouts and combine and teams see how athleticism and how much POTENTIAL he has.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:34pm #508590
BasterdInABasketParticipantLook at Cam Newton his stock has done nothing but rise since all the allegations and character concerns all of which is a lot more serious than what jones did. I figure the same thing will happen when Jones when he has all his workouts and combine and teams see how athleticism and how much POTENTIAL he has.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:51pm #508595
HaleParticipantNewton’s stock has risen more because he continued to play well through adversity, his team kept winning games and because he proved himself over a longer period of time.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:51pm #508596
HaleParticipantNewton’s stock has risen more because he continued to play well through adversity, his team kept winning games and because he proved himself over a longer period of time.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:55pm #508597
The lake show2nope..Hoopsworld has article about that where NBA scouts said it wont effect his draft status at all. every year they have lotto guys go high that they know took money or gifts , it doesn’t change how talented they are.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:55pm #508598
The lake show2nope..Hoopsworld has article about that where NBA scouts said it wont effect his draft status at all. every year they have lotto guys go high that they know took money or gifts , it doesn’t change how talented they are.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:59pm #508601
The lake show2When Baylor University received the news that freshman Perry Jones was declared ineligible, the school immediately appealed to have his eligibility reinstated. The Bears were on the bubble and had little chance of advancing in the Big 12 Tournament without their leading scorer.The NCAA upheld its decision and Baylor was dismantled by Oklahoma, 84-67, hours later.
The suspension was the result of pre-enrollment amateurism violations and preferential treatment, which surfaced because Jones’ mother accepted three, 15-day loans from his high school AAU coach. Jones’ ineligibility has prematurely ended his season, but will it affect his future?
Jones is projected as a top-five pick in this year’s NBA Draft, and an impressive run in the NCAA Tournament or dominant showing in his final games would have solidified him as a top pick. The suspension all but guarantees that Jones will enter his name in this year’s draft, and the general consensus around the league is that he’ll still be one of the first players off of the board this June.
"It shouldn’t affect his draft stock," said one league source. "This doesn’t affect his potential and that’s what everyone cares about at this level. Teams will want answers before investing millions of dollars in him, but this isn’t enough to scare teams away."
That’s because many NBA teams understand that the majority of players are receiving impermissible benefits, but only a select few are caught and suspended. Jones had been in contact with the AAU coach in question since he was a sixth grader in middle school, and he’s also been linked to several agents since high school. But these days, if players aren’t receiving benefits from their school’s boosters, they’re likely receiving gifts or cash from agents and advisors.
One player in last year’s draft class was receiving money from three different agents throughout the course of his college career, but he was still selected in the first round. Other players have had their friends or cousins serve as middlemen to accept anything agents are willing to send their way in order to sway their decision.
Jones will have to answer questions regarding the issue from the media and from teams during his interviews at the pre-draft camp in Chicago, but the fact that it was only short-term loans accepted by his mother lets him off the hook. Other first-round prospects such as Enes Kanter and Josh Selby found themselves in worse situations earlier this year and will have more to explain than Jones.
The bigger questions surrounding Jones have to do with his game. He’s six-foot-eleven with long arms, which is always a plus, but many scouts have questioned his work ethic. He has a reputation for taking plays off and some have wondered if he’s truly passionate about basketball. Jones has drawn comparisons to Derrick Favors because he has played well in spurts, but is attractive largely because of his potential.
One scout that watched Jones play several times this season didn’t come away impressed.
"People call him the best athlete in this class, but I’ve come away disappointed each time I’ve seen him play," said the scout. "Its one thing to question the holes in his game, but his athleticism is supposedly his biggest strength. I don’t know if he’s not playing to his full potential or what, but I haven’t seen the athlete that people rave about. He’s extremely hard to peg. If he truly is the best athlete in this class, then this is a very weak class in terms of athletic players."
Jones is a physical specimen that can be great player once he begins to tap into his potential. But his freshman season at Baylor was very average and it followed a largely disappointing senior year at Duncanville High School. This scandal shouldn’t affect his draft stock, but it’s another question mark surrounding the prospect that was already difficult to evaluate.
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19033#ixzz1GGOFQxTP
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 6:59pm #508602
The lake show2When Baylor University received the news that freshman Perry Jones was declared ineligible, the school immediately appealed to have his eligibility reinstated. The Bears were on the bubble and had little chance of advancing in the Big 12 Tournament without their leading scorer.The NCAA upheld its decision and Baylor was dismantled by Oklahoma, 84-67, hours later.
The suspension was the result of pre-enrollment amateurism violations and preferential treatment, which surfaced because Jones’ mother accepted three, 15-day loans from his high school AAU coach. Jones’ ineligibility has prematurely ended his season, but will it affect his future?
Jones is projected as a top-five pick in this year’s NBA Draft, and an impressive run in the NCAA Tournament or dominant showing in his final games would have solidified him as a top pick. The suspension all but guarantees that Jones will enter his name in this year’s draft, and the general consensus around the league is that he’ll still be one of the first players off of the board this June.
"It shouldn’t affect his draft stock," said one league source. "This doesn’t affect his potential and that’s what everyone cares about at this level. Teams will want answers before investing millions of dollars in him, but this isn’t enough to scare teams away."
That’s because many NBA teams understand that the majority of players are receiving impermissible benefits, but only a select few are caught and suspended. Jones had been in contact with the AAU coach in question since he was a sixth grader in middle school, and he’s also been linked to several agents since high school. But these days, if players aren’t receiving benefits from their school’s boosters, they’re likely receiving gifts or cash from agents and advisors.
One player in last year’s draft class was receiving money from three different agents throughout the course of his college career, but he was still selected in the first round. Other players have had their friends or cousins serve as middlemen to accept anything agents are willing to send their way in order to sway their decision.
Jones will have to answer questions regarding the issue from the media and from teams during his interviews at the pre-draft camp in Chicago, but the fact that it was only short-term loans accepted by his mother lets him off the hook. Other first-round prospects such as Enes Kanter and Josh Selby found themselves in worse situations earlier this year and will have more to explain than Jones.
The bigger questions surrounding Jones have to do with his game. He’s six-foot-eleven with long arms, which is always a plus, but many scouts have questioned his work ethic. He has a reputation for taking plays off and some have wondered if he’s truly passionate about basketball. Jones has drawn comparisons to Derrick Favors because he has played well in spurts, but is attractive largely because of his potential.
One scout that watched Jones play several times this season didn’t come away impressed.
"People call him the best athlete in this class, but I’ve come away disappointed each time I’ve seen him play," said the scout. "Its one thing to question the holes in his game, but his athleticism is supposedly his biggest strength. I don’t know if he’s not playing to his full potential or what, but I haven’t seen the athlete that people rave about. He’s extremely hard to peg. If he truly is the best athlete in this class, then this is a very weak class in terms of athletic players."
Jones is a physical specimen that can be great player once he begins to tap into his potential. But his freshman season at Baylor was very average and it followed a largely disappointing senior year at Duncanville High School. This scandal shouldn’t affect his draft stock, but it’s another question mark surrounding the prospect that was already difficult to evaluate.
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19033#ixzz1GGOFQxTP
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 11:12pm #508640
HotSnotParticipantI’m not sure if those reading this know much about Jones family but these are church going people who live the lifestyle. Jones mother was probably broke and instead of hitting a moneymart she borrows untill next paycheck from the coach. If this is what the NCAA has been "investigating" regarding improper benefits and their players… what a joke.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/10/2011 - 11:12pm #508643
HotSnotParticipantI’m not sure if those reading this know much about Jones family but these are church going people who live the lifestyle. Jones mother was probably broke and instead of hitting a moneymart she borrows untill next paycheck from the coach. If this is what the NCAA has been "investigating" regarding improper benefits and their players… what a joke.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 12:18am #508650
lalailaParticipantit doesn’t matter at all..cause he (and Harrison) will rise after the workouts, all you see in workouts is shooting dribbling other skills and athleticism..and Perry will be phenomenal there.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 12:18am #508653
lalailaParticipantit doesn’t matter at all..cause he (and Harrison) will rise after the workouts, all you see in workouts is shooting dribbling other skills and athleticism..and Perry will be phenomenal there.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:19am #508696
Troupa DupsParticipantThe NCAA will suspend anyone at anytime, there’s bloody kids getting suspended for having sex lmao!!!! What a joke the NCAA is
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:19am #508698
Troupa DupsParticipantThe NCAA will suspend anyone at anytime, there’s bloody kids getting suspended for having sex lmao!!!! What a joke the NCAA is
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:21am #508699
mj23mj23besteverParticipantall the potential in the world just like good ol ar but imo jones is gonna be a bust i just dont see him getting it done in the league
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:21am #508700
mj23mj23besteverParticipantall the potential in the world just like good ol ar but imo jones is gonna be a bust i just dont see him getting it done in the league
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:29am #508705
delfamParticipantTroupa Dups: WTF are you talking about, the NCAA didn’t suspend anyone for having sex, if your talking about Davies it was BYU who suspended him, not the NCAA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:29am #508706
delfamParticipantTroupa Dups: WTF are you talking about, the NCAA didn’t suspend anyone for having sex, if your talking about Davies it was BYU who suspended him, not the NCAA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:37am #508713
mj23mj23besteverParticipanttheres another wow post the ncaa didnt suspend that kid byu did for vioalting the schools moral code wow get the facts stragith before u post
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 4:37am #508714
mj23mj23besteverParticipanttheres another wow post the ncaa didnt suspend that kid byu did for vioalting the schools moral code wow get the facts stragith before u post
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 5:50am #508753
Meditated StatesParticipantBy mid season if he fell out of the top 10 teams are gonna regret it. He might struggle early, but he will have better coaching and better players taking attention from him early on. He will not be the focus of the defense and the guards will get him the ball in his spots. I see people are really down on him,, but I think he is the best player in this draft. I also think Barnes might surprise people if he is with a great passing team.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 5:50am #508754
Meditated StatesParticipantBy mid season if he fell out of the top 10 teams are gonna regret it. He might struggle early, but he will have better coaching and better players taking attention from him early on. He will not be the focus of the defense and the guards will get him the ball in his spots. I see people are really down on him,, but I think he is the best player in this draft. I also think Barnes might surprise people if he is with a great passing team.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 7:18am #508802
The lake show2Anyone read the post on the front page of this site?..Perry Jones is likely to drop out of the top five because he hasnt shown to be good as advertised. His athleticisim is overrated as well. He’s not a all world athlete
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 7:18am #508805
The lake show2Anyone read the post on the front page of this site?..Perry Jones is likely to drop out of the top five because he hasnt shown to be good as advertised. His athleticisim is overrated as well. He’s not a all world athlete
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 7:57am #508816
Meditated StatesParticipantAthletic ability is top notch, but not when u play on a team that does not fast brake or have good passing. He passes well out of the double team and covers on the perimiter well. Best player in this class only one who might surpass him in the next level is Barnes,and maybe Sullinger. Kemba can never be slept on though so I can’t forget him. Those guys including Irving are the best in this class.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/11/2011 - 7:57am #508819
Meditated StatesParticipantAthletic ability is top notch, but not when u play on a team that does not fast brake or have good passing. He passes well out of the double team and covers on the perimiter well. Best player in this class only one who might surpass him in the next level is Barnes,and maybe Sullinger. Kemba can never be slept on though so I can’t forget him. Those guys including Irving are the best in this class.
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