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- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 3:31pm #64273
IknoBall12Participantat this point I really just want them to blow up my team. I don’t even know what I would want in this draft and I know Vogel is there now but for some reason I just have no hope whatsoever. It really doesn’t take much to make the playoffs in the east and yet we can’t ever do it lol. The mock draft says we take skal labissire(don’t care bout his name cuz I don’t want him) and it seems like we’re too low in the draft to get anything better. I watched skal play much of the year and there really isn’t anything I like about his game but hey maybe things may change. Any thoughts on who my hopeless squad should draft?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 3:50pm #1074497
treytalkssports.comParticipantThe Celtics will begin by offering Aaron Gordon and 11 for the 3 and 16.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:41pm #1074553
pe3ucTopParticipantAaron Gordon is better than 3 in this specific draft and 11 is better than 16. This doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t trade Gordon at all. He should be one of the few pieces that should be untouchable for Orlando.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:41pm #1074664
pe3ucTopParticipantAaron Gordon is better than 3 in this specific draft and 11 is better than 16. This doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t trade Gordon at all. He should be one of the few pieces that should be untouchable for Orlando.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 3:50pm #1074607
treytalkssports.comParticipantThe Celtics will begin by offering Aaron Gordon and 11 for the 3 and 16.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 3:55pm #1074499
220ParticipantI’d say Deyonta Davis or Jakob Poeltl if either are available.
The Magic biggest need is for one of the players they already have to have a significant jump in their development or for everyone to get noticeably better. The Magic have two good guards under contract in Elfrid Payton and Victor Oladipo, but neither can shoot the ball well. Mario Hezonja has potential, but his opportunities were limited last year so it’s hard to say where he’ll be. Nikolas Vucevic is a good scorer and great rebounder. Aaron Gordon is a dynamic athlete who has improved quite a bit since entering the league. They have some talent they just haven’t seemed to mesh yet.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 3:55pm #1074609
220ParticipantI’d say Deyonta Davis or Jakob Poeltl if either are available.
The Magic biggest need is for one of the players they already have to have a significant jump in their development or for everyone to get noticeably better. The Magic have two good guards under contract in Elfrid Payton and Victor Oladipo, but neither can shoot the ball well. Mario Hezonja has potential, but his opportunities were limited last year so it’s hard to say where he’ll be. Nikolas Vucevic is a good scorer and great rebounder. Aaron Gordon is a dynamic athlete who has improved quite a bit since entering the league. They have some talent they just haven’t seemed to mesh yet.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 4:06pm #1074507
sheepish_moParticipantTake a gamble on Thon imo. Orlando need someone with the potential to become a star and there doesn’t seem to be many in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 4:06pm #1074618
sheepish_moParticipantTake a gamble on Thon imo. Orlando need someone with the potential to become a star and there doesn’t seem to be many in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 4:31pm #1074513
The Scare Crow RisesParticipant1. Draft Marquesse Chriss if he’s available at 10, Dejounte Murray or Malik Beasley if he’s gone…
2. Trade Victor Olapido to Philadelphia for Robert Covington and the pick swap with Sacramento
3. Trade Nik Vucevic to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio after the Wolves Draft Dunn 5th
4. Resign Evan Fournier for 10-15 million a year and go after Al Horford, Dwight Howard and Ryan Anderson in free agency, best case you sign Al Horford, worst case Dwight and Ryan come back to Orlando for redemption
5. Install a fast pace offense with a potential young core of Gordon/Chriss/Hezonja/Fournier/Rubio/Payton/Grant
With a veteran at the C spot in Horford or Howard and a complimentary PF in Anderson to bring along Chriss slowly
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 5:15pm #1074523
trelos6ParticipantOladipo is a stud IMO, and a lot better than Covington. I’d want at least a top 10 draft pick for him in return.
Why would Orl get Rubio when they have Payton already.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 5:15pm #1074634
trelos6ParticipantOladipo is a stud IMO, and a lot better than Covington. I’d want at least a top 10 draft pick for him in return.
Why would Orl get Rubio when they have Payton already.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 4:31pm #1074624
The Scare Crow RisesParticipant1. Draft Marquesse Chriss if he’s available at 10, Dejounte Murray or Malik Beasley if he’s gone…
2. Trade Victor Olapido to Philadelphia for Robert Covington and the pick swap with Sacramento
3. Trade Nik Vucevic to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio after the Wolves Draft Dunn 5th
4. Resign Evan Fournier for 10-15 million a year and go after Al Horford, Dwight Howard and Ryan Anderson in free agency, best case you sign Al Horford, worst case Dwight and Ryan come back to Orlando for redemption
5. Install a fast pace offense with a potential young core of Gordon/Chriss/Hezonja/Fournier/Rubio/Payton/Grant
With a veteran at the C spot in Horford or Howard and a complimentary PF in Anderson to bring along Chriss slowly
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 5:57pm #1074531
The GoatParticipantHezonja was a really good pick last year, a major talent. They did a good job getting their hands on Fournier too. Besides that, they have OK players but they don’t really fit and now they are stuck in this middle ground, late lottery.
I can’t say I think Aaron Gordon is the answer. An amazing dunk comp put him in the spotlight but I’m not sold if you plan on pairing him with Vukovic. Oladipo and Payton are talented but not a good fit together either.
I’d start by trying to get Noel from Philly (for Oladipo) and moving Vukovic, perhaps to Minny or New Orleans for their pick, targeting Hield/Murray if they are still there.
Payton Hield Hezonja Gordon Noel just seem like a young 5 that fit better, have good shooting balance, potential and talent.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 5:57pm #1074642
The GoatParticipantHezonja was a really good pick last year, a major talent. They did a good job getting their hands on Fournier too. Besides that, they have OK players but they don’t really fit and now they are stuck in this middle ground, late lottery.
I can’t say I think Aaron Gordon is the answer. An amazing dunk comp put him in the spotlight but I’m not sold if you plan on pairing him with Vukovic. Oladipo and Payton are talented but not a good fit together either.
I’d start by trying to get Noel from Philly (for Oladipo) and moving Vukovic, perhaps to Minny or New Orleans for their pick, targeting Hield/Murray if they are still there.
Payton Hield Hezonja Gordon Noel just seem like a young 5 that fit better, have good shooting balance, potential and talent.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:11pm #1074547
festar35ParticipantI really think Vogel will get the most out of Oladipo and Gordon, I am not convinced that with those two as you best players you have a Championship caliber team going forward.
I think there ceiling with the current roster is that of the Boston Celtics where they will be a very good team, but need that Super-Star talent.
With Payton, Oladipo, Hezonja, Gordon, Vucevic and the 11th pick they may be able to swing for a big talent, but if not they build with what they have a create a constant playoff caliber team.0- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:32pm #1074551
benny15Participantmy dream for this team is to actually to swing for the fences by trading vucevic, hezonja and oladipo/payton for cousins. maybe even throw in their pick this year if need be. i do think despite his cancerous nature to the kings, he is the best center of the league and can lead an eastern team to the play-offs.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:32pm #1074662
benny15Participantmy dream for this team is to actually to swing for the fences by trading vucevic, hezonja and oladipo/payton for cousins. maybe even throw in their pick this year if need be. i do think despite his cancerous nature to the kings, he is the best center of the league and can lead an eastern team to the play-offs.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 7:11pm #1074658
festar35ParticipantI really think Vogel will get the most out of Oladipo and Gordon, I am not convinced that with those two as you best players you have a Championship caliber team going forward.
I think there ceiling with the current roster is that of the Boston Celtics where they will be a very good team, but need that Super-Star talent.
With Payton, Oladipo, Hezonja, Gordon, Vucevic and the 11th pick they may be able to swing for a big talent, but if not they build with what they have a create a constant playoff caliber team.0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 8:09pm #1074561
DolanCareParticipantMy only problem with Vogel as the coach for Orlando is how he will probably use Aaron Gordon. Vogel loves size at every position, which may incline him to play Gordon at the 4 or even the 3. Both are mistakes. Mark my words, Aaron Gordon’s future is at center.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 8:09pm #1074672
DolanCareParticipantMy only problem with Vogel as the coach for Orlando is how he will probably use Aaron Gordon. Vogel loves size at every position, which may incline him to play Gordon at the 4 or even the 3. Both are mistakes. Mark my words, Aaron Gordon’s future is at center.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 8:55pm #1074567
festar35ParticipantGordon can play small ball 5 in spurts, but no way he is there full-time. He is an ideal modern 4-man who can shoot, handle, run and play defense at a high standard, honestly he could be a better version of Draymond Green.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 5:56pm #1075020
DolanCareParticipantDifference is Aaron Gordon can’t shoot it, dribble it or pass it. YET. He could easily develop these parts of his game down the road, but for now, he doesn’t have the ball skills like Draymond Green. Once that changes, he could be more 4 than 5.
That all said, I love how I get killed for calling Gordon a center and you get credit for comparing him to Green. Green plays wayyy more than ‘spurt minutes’ at the 5.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 5:56pm #1074912
DolanCareParticipantDifference is Aaron Gordon can’t shoot it, dribble it or pass it. YET. He could easily develop these parts of his game down the road, but for now, he doesn’t have the ball skills like Draymond Green. Once that changes, he could be more 4 than 5.
That all said, I love how I get killed for calling Gordon a center and you get credit for comparing him to Green. Green plays wayyy more than ‘spurt minutes’ at the 5.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 8:55pm #1074678
festar35ParticipantGordon can play small ball 5 in spurts, but no way he is there full-time. He is an ideal modern 4-man who can shoot, handle, run and play defense at a high standard, honestly he could be a better version of Draymond Green.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 9:54pm #1074688
TheLastWordParticipantOrlando shouldn’t make any hasty trades. Their team is so young, who really knows what they have.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/18/2016 - 9:54pm #1074577
TheLastWordParticipantOrlando shouldn’t make any hasty trades. Their team is so young, who really knows what they have.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 5:40am #1074734
pokieParticipantAll of Orlando’s players seem to have the same ceiling. Most are one way players. Vogel just has to figure out how to hide each players weakness on the end they haven’t developed yet. Most of them have to become gym rats. They do need to figure out who’s team it is and start building schemes and personell to develop an identity.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 5:40am #1074623
pokieParticipantAll of Orlando’s players seem to have the same ceiling. Most are one way players. Vogel just has to figure out how to hide each players weakness on the end they haven’t developed yet. Most of them have to become gym rats. They do need to figure out who’s team it is and start building schemes and personell to develop an identity.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 6:14am #1074738
NeuroladParticipantObviously there is a huge risk with Embiid, but his ability to play up tempo would fit nicely with the pieces already in place in Orlando. The Magic have guards that should interest Philly and both teams could benefit from a potential trade.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 6:14am #1074627
NeuroladParticipantObviously there is a huge risk with Embiid, but his ability to play up tempo would fit nicely with the pieces already in place in Orlando. The Magic have guards that should interest Philly and both teams could benefit from a potential trade.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 6:18am #1074740
NeuroladParticipantGordon has potential, just not sure what his ceiling is under Vogel.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/19/2016 - 6:18am #1074629
NeuroladParticipantGordon has potential, just not sure what his ceiling is under Vogel.
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