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- Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:08pm #23269
meisi4Participantso here we go again Oden out for the Season!
i got him late in a fantasy draft cause i thougt he might be a sleeper once he gets to play and when i read the news i got a scream attack! i mean i really freaked out!
the dude is out again before even being back from the last injury!but the point i wanna get to is what you think about his future?
i thougt after the second injury that he would never be what portland fans hoped but i ranked him like a tyson Chandler in New Orleans days… now i really have to think Sam Bowie!Second thougt what do you think about his contract next year?
cause i think some team will badly overpay him. like the Knicks a team who has to sell somebody to the Fans could pay him in Brenda Haywood style! and just because he is a talented big! it would be really crazy but i think someone would do this dumb thing….
your guesses?0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:33pm #437523
midwestbbscoutParticipanthe’s still only like 22 years old right????….I remember when guys his age took this long just to get on the court….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:33pm #437541
midwestbbscoutParticipanthe’s still only like 22 years old right????….I remember when guys his age took this long just to get on the court….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:33pm #437500
midwestbbscoutParticipanthe’s still only like 22 years old right????….I remember when guys his age took this long just to get on the court….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:41pm #437514
meisi4Participantthats interesting you still think he is a franchise changer?
and you said you saw similar things? i cant think of one so give an example please.0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:41pm #437537
meisi4Participantthats interesting you still think he is a franchise changer?
and you said you saw similar things? i cant think of one so give an example please.0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/17/2010 - 11:41pm #437556
meisi4Participantthats interesting you still think he is a franchise changer?
and you said you saw similar things? i cant think of one so give an example please.0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 4:50am #437594
mikeyvthedonParticipantI still could see it happening. He may not be a franchise player, but franchise changer, for a person with Greg Oden’s talents on the court, along with size and athleticism (which I do not think will just disappear, though might be hindered slightly), I know if I need a Center to compete, I take that chance. There are so many teams out there who need that guy in the middle to compete, and if they have him, even for one or two years, it is the difference between being mediocre and being great, I truly believe that. The problem of course, is that there is no precedent. Grant Hill was mentioned by BTPH, but Grant had of course established himself as one of the premier young talents in the league and an MVP candidate before going through years of injury problems and people writing him off, until his return with the Suns where he has become a fantastic role player. Talent does not just dissolve overnight, and say what you will about Greg Oden, he was obviously a talented player, even if part of it was due to his considerable size.
The only comparisons people can seem to think about are too Sam "David" Bowie, but medical treatment has come a long way since than. But really, I can not remember a player as highly drafted as Greg suffering these injuries early on and having a successful career. Throughout Bowie’s later career, when he was healthy, he was a contributor on bad to mediocre New Jersey Nets teams and on the Lakers before they turned the ship around with signing Shaq and trading for Kobe. But I still find it hard to use that as a precedent. This is a different scenario, and by the time Sam Bowie started his rookie season, he was the same age Greg Oden will be if he were to play next year.
Players do get hurt all of the time though, and injuries that used to end careers have almost just become horrible road blocks. I feel awful for Greg Oden and hope for a recovery, on whatever time line is best for him. He does not want to be hurt, and we are not doctors so we know nothing about his body. Also, for everyone who says the Blazers med staff or scouts "dropped the ball", from all I have heard that is just not true. I heard he had MRI’s on both knees before the draft and that they were "pristine". Also, I have never been through the injuries Greg Oden has been through, but I know it is a difficult and arduous process to return from. If you want to call him a bust, that is your perogative and by your definition. I on the other hand, just wish for him to recover and hopefully do what I know he would like to do, which is get back on the court and compete.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 4:50am #437614
mikeyvthedonParticipantI still could see it happening. He may not be a franchise player, but franchise changer, for a person with Greg Oden’s talents on the court, along with size and athleticism (which I do not think will just disappear, though might be hindered slightly), I know if I need a Center to compete, I take that chance. There are so many teams out there who need that guy in the middle to compete, and if they have him, even for one or two years, it is the difference between being mediocre and being great, I truly believe that. The problem of course, is that there is no precedent. Grant Hill was mentioned by BTPH, but Grant had of course established himself as one of the premier young talents in the league and an MVP candidate before going through years of injury problems and people writing him off, until his return with the Suns where he has become a fantastic role player. Talent does not just dissolve overnight, and say what you will about Greg Oden, he was obviously a talented player, even if part of it was due to his considerable size.
The only comparisons people can seem to think about are too Sam "David" Bowie, but medical treatment has come a long way since than. But really, I can not remember a player as highly drafted as Greg suffering these injuries early on and having a successful career. Throughout Bowie’s later career, when he was healthy, he was a contributor on bad to mediocre New Jersey Nets teams and on the Lakers before they turned the ship around with signing Shaq and trading for Kobe. But I still find it hard to use that as a precedent. This is a different scenario, and by the time Sam Bowie started his rookie season, he was the same age Greg Oden will be if he were to play next year.
Players do get hurt all of the time though, and injuries that used to end careers have almost just become horrible road blocks. I feel awful for Greg Oden and hope for a recovery, on whatever time line is best for him. He does not want to be hurt, and we are not doctors so we know nothing about his body. Also, for everyone who says the Blazers med staff or scouts "dropped the ball", from all I have heard that is just not true. I heard he had MRI’s on both knees before the draft and that they were "pristine". Also, I have never been through the injuries Greg Oden has been through, but I know it is a difficult and arduous process to return from. If you want to call him a bust, that is your perogative and by your definition. I on the other hand, just wish for him to recover and hopefully do what I know he would like to do, which is get back on the court and compete.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 4:50am #437635
mikeyvthedonParticipantI still could see it happening. He may not be a franchise player, but franchise changer, for a person with Greg Oden’s talents on the court, along with size and athleticism (which I do not think will just disappear, though might be hindered slightly), I know if I need a Center to compete, I take that chance. There are so many teams out there who need that guy in the middle to compete, and if they have him, even for one or two years, it is the difference between being mediocre and being great, I truly believe that. The problem of course, is that there is no precedent. Grant Hill was mentioned by BTPH, but Grant had of course established himself as one of the premier young talents in the league and an MVP candidate before going through years of injury problems and people writing him off, until his return with the Suns where he has become a fantastic role player. Talent does not just dissolve overnight, and say what you will about Greg Oden, he was obviously a talented player, even if part of it was due to his considerable size.
The only comparisons people can seem to think about are too Sam "David" Bowie, but medical treatment has come a long way since than. But really, I can not remember a player as highly drafted as Greg suffering these injuries early on and having a successful career. Throughout Bowie’s later career, when he was healthy, he was a contributor on bad to mediocre New Jersey Nets teams and on the Lakers before they turned the ship around with signing Shaq and trading for Kobe. But I still find it hard to use that as a precedent. This is a different scenario, and by the time Sam Bowie started his rookie season, he was the same age Greg Oden will be if he were to play next year.
Players do get hurt all of the time though, and injuries that used to end careers have almost just become horrible road blocks. I feel awful for Greg Oden and hope for a recovery, on whatever time line is best for him. He does not want to be hurt, and we are not doctors so we know nothing about his body. Also, for everyone who says the Blazers med staff or scouts "dropped the ball", from all I have heard that is just not true. I heard he had MRI’s on both knees before the draft and that they were "pristine". Also, I have never been through the injuries Greg Oden has been through, but I know it is a difficult and arduous process to return from. If you want to call him a bust, that is your perogative and by your definition. I on the other hand, just wish for him to recover and hopefully do what I know he would like to do, which is get back on the court and compete.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 6:23am #437642
Dhamp2ParticipantI picked a great time to come back. It’s like I switched number 23 for 45!Wow Greg Oden. What a devastating blow for the young center, and not so much Portland. Leg, feet and knee injuries have been the downfall of many big men in the league. Look no further than to Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and others.Portland, though not a deep and talented as they were a year ago, still have Joel Przybilla, who is more than capable of being a top five shot-blocker and rebounder, and the ageless wonder and my former Denver Nugget Marcus Camby, whom I personally prefer as the team’s starting center.As long as Oden is 7-feet tall, can rebound, block shots and shoot hook shots and free-throws with either hand, he is still a franchise changer.And while microfracture surgery is a serious procedure, it won’t be as bad as many expect because Oden isn’t over athletic and can depend more on his solid fundamentals.Dhamp2…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.1. Nbadraft.net’s famed prince charming!!!0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 6:23am #437659
Dhamp2ParticipantI picked a great time to come back. It’s like I switched number 23 for 45!Wow Greg Oden. What a devastating blow for the young center, and not so much Portland. Leg, feet and knee injuries have been the downfall of many big men in the league. Look no further than to Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and others.Portland, though not a deep and talented as they were a year ago, still have Joel Przybilla, who is more than capable of being a top five shot-blocker and rebounder, and the ageless wonder and my former Denver Nugget Marcus Camby, whom I personally prefer as the team’s starting center.As long as Oden is 7-feet tall, can rebound, block shots and shoot hook shots and free-throws with either hand, he is still a franchise changer.And while microfracture surgery is a serious procedure, it won’t be as bad as many expect because Oden isn’t over athletic and can depend more on his solid fundamentals.Dhamp2…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.1. Nbadraft.net’s famed prince charming!!!0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 6:23am #437684
Dhamp2ParticipantI picked a great time to come back. It’s like I switched number 23 for 45!Wow Greg Oden. What a devastating blow for the young center, and not so much Portland. Leg, feet and knee injuries have been the downfall of many big men in the league. Look no further than to Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and others.Portland, though not a deep and talented as they were a year ago, still have Joel Przybilla, who is more than capable of being a top five shot-blocker and rebounder, and the ageless wonder and my former Denver Nugget Marcus Camby, whom I personally prefer as the team’s starting center.As long as Oden is 7-feet tall, can rebound, block shots and shoot hook shots and free-throws with either hand, he is still a franchise changer.And while microfracture surgery is a serious procedure, it won’t be as bad as many expect because Oden isn’t over athletic and can depend more on his solid fundamentals.Dhamp2…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.1. Nbadraft.net’s famed prince charming!!!0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:33am #437784
Mr. ChicagoParticipantIt’s just sad at this point. He has suffered some horrific knee injuries.
As someone who has had knee problems (torn ACL, MCL, & Meniscus), I understand how hard it is to come back. And microfracture surgery is a tough surgery to go through.
I really think he needs to get out of Portland, and I wish him the best of luck.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:33am #437741
Mr. ChicagoParticipantIt’s just sad at this point. He has suffered some horrific knee injuries.
As someone who has had knee problems (torn ACL, MCL, & Meniscus), I understand how hard it is to come back. And microfracture surgery is a tough surgery to go through.
I really think he needs to get out of Portland, and I wish him the best of luck.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:33am #437757
Mr. ChicagoParticipantIt’s just sad at this point. He has suffered some horrific knee injuries.
As someone who has had knee problems (torn ACL, MCL, & Meniscus), I understand how hard it is to come back. And microfracture surgery is a tough surgery to go through.
I really think he needs to get out of Portland, and I wish him the best of luck.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:57am #437772
HitsterParticipantThe Knicks taking a run at Oden would just be too risky for me, with their run of luck and ability to underachieve for over a generation coupled with Oden’s knee issues would be a problem waiting to happen. The positive thing is that Greg is still only 22 years old and was younger than a couple of the top 6 draft this year and is younger than Ralph Sampson, David Robinson etc were when they came to the NBA.
Everyone says that drafting Oden number 1 was wrong in hindsight but you put Greg Oden coming off his year at Ohio State in 2007 in any NBA draft in the last 25 years since 1985 then only David Robinson, Shaq, AI, Tim Duncan, Yao and LeBron would probably have bewen selected ahead of him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:57am #437799
HitsterParticipantThe Knicks taking a run at Oden would just be too risky for me, with their run of luck and ability to underachieve for over a generation coupled with Oden’s knee issues would be a problem waiting to happen. The positive thing is that Greg is still only 22 years old and was younger than a couple of the top 6 draft this year and is younger than Ralph Sampson, David Robinson etc were when they came to the NBA.
Everyone says that drafting Oden number 1 was wrong in hindsight but you put Greg Oden coming off his year at Ohio State in 2007 in any NBA draft in the last 25 years since 1985 then only David Robinson, Shaq, AI, Tim Duncan, Yao and LeBron would probably have bewen selected ahead of him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 8:57am #437756
HitsterParticipantThe Knicks taking a run at Oden would just be too risky for me, with their run of luck and ability to underachieve for over a generation coupled with Oden’s knee issues would be a problem waiting to happen. The positive thing is that Greg is still only 22 years old and was younger than a couple of the top 6 draft this year and is younger than Ralph Sampson, David Robinson etc were when they came to the NBA.
Everyone says that drafting Oden number 1 was wrong in hindsight but you put Greg Oden coming off his year at Ohio State in 2007 in any NBA draft in the last 25 years since 1985 then only David Robinson, Shaq, AI, Tim Duncan, Yao and LeBron would probably have bewen selected ahead of him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 12:51pm #438028
llperezthey called him mr glass
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 12:51pm #438048
llperezthey called him mr glass
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 12:51pm #438008
llperezthey called him mr glass
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 1:39pm #438038
meisi4Participanti agree that Oden has talent and i even don’t blame Portland for drafting him cause it was the right move on draft night…
but being out for the season before you even came back is really worring or am i wrong?0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 1:39pm #438058
meisi4Participanti agree that Oden has talent and i even don’t blame Portland for drafting him cause it was the right move on draft night…
but being out for the season before you even came back is really worring or am i wrong?0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/18/2010 - 1:39pm #438078
meisi4Participanti agree that Oden has talent and i even don’t blame Portland for drafting him cause it was the right move on draft night…
but being out for the season before you even came back is really worring or am i wrong?0 - AuthorPosts
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