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  • #31297
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    Boomshakalaka
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    From my understanding(please correct me if I am wrong) the players want to keep the current pay structure and the owners are complaining that payroll takes up too much percentage of their revenue and they also want more protection against players leaving teams.  

    To me it is Billionaries vs Millionaries complaining over who can be the most greedy.  At the end of the day even if you lose games your franchise still makes money(ex. The L.A. Clippers for the last two decades).  So I dont feel sorry for either side.

    I would advise the owners that the players that they have on payroll are some of the most talented individuals in the WORLD!  Basketball is now an officially a WORLD game (as we can all tell from the most recent draft).  So if the NBA owners dont want to pay these players there are Countries, Leagues, Teams, and Television stations that would love to showcase guys and make money off them.   I dont want to take away from what the owners do because the NBA is very organized with very few issues and very few scandals so I am sure they have something to do with that.  But a Billionaire that knows how to run a bussiness are much easier to come by another Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Durant or Kobe.

    I know the owners probably felt a little vulnerable last summer when players like Lebron, Wade, Bosh, and Amar’e were able to sit down together and deciede how THEY wanted to shift power in this league.   With no supervision from the owners or even David Stern.   I mean if I was in an owner’s  shoes I would be a bit concerned about that too.   Its scary to have power and then lose it or even worse slowly watch yourself losing it.  

    A lockout at this point in Basketball’s history is not a good idea.  There is a lare audience out there.  This is not like Football, Baseball, or Nascar where only America plus a couple other countries watch.  There are NBA fans on every continent with a love for the game and more importantly money in their pockets.     I heard recently that the Players association may set up tour of China.     Take my foolish advise owners you dont want the players finding out that they can make money and set up TV contracts without you.   "When the ho finds out she does not  NEED the pimp, that’s when she stops paying the pimp"    Come on NBA owners that is Pimpin’ 101

    No one wants to see a lockout; not the Players, not the Owners, and especially not the fans.   The league is coming off a year that had alot of buzz around it.   One year removed from a heated  Lakers vs Celtics rivalry you get 3 top guys trying to start a dynasty, A beloved hero turning into a hated villian, NYC becoming relevant again, The youngest ever MVP and a young scoring champion, The great Lakers getting knocked off their throne, and an International star becoming champion.     Lets not make the next big story be "No Basketball untill Feb 2012"

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  • #558713
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    Boomshakalaka
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    I know it is a little long but the post has some good points.      Please give feedback

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    I know it is a little long but the post has some good points.      Please give feedback

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  • #559028
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    I mentioned this a few weeks ago.  More options for the NBA guys.

    Supposedly Marc Gasol will play the year in Spain if this thing gets really messy.

    If a few players from each team go overseas (including a few all-stars) then that would hurt the league I think.

    If the NBA loses the whole season then it popularity will fall behind the NFL, college football, college basketball (this might actually help college basketball since guys would be more likely to stay longer), MLB, and the NHL (which is coming back in popularity).

    What do you think?  I think it could fall to around 6th place as far as sports go.  I would still put it ahead of NASCAR and golf though.

    Regarding LeBron, he is the guy the league has been marketing heavily for 8 years.  I know the ratings for the Heat surged, but it’s more about HATE than LOVE.  People hated the Heat, the Big Three, and especially LeBron.  But, if that HATE turns to indifference (the opposite of HATE is not LOVE) then that would hurt TV ratings next year.  … not sure how healthy it is that the most compelling player in the NBA is the one who is hated the most.  Worse, his flaws are being exposed so he might not be the top NBA player in terms of skills.  I am just wondering when the novelty of booing LeBron wears off.  Remember, when the Cavs made the Finals with LeBron the Finals drew paltry ratings even with the league’s up-and-coming superstar facing the NBA’s favorite "villain team" (the Spurs).  The novely aspect of The Decision, The Big Three, and the villiany of LeBron and Wade really helped the Finals.  But, you also had a very compelling Mavs team that rolled through the NBA, was basically a Cinderella Team built around a superstar (Dirk) and some good, likeable veterans such as Kidd, Marion, Terry, Peja, Chandler, and JJ Barea.  Those kinds of storylines and that kind of matchup will be hard to duplicate next year.

    The league’s big three teams of the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs (if you have a league where two teams have half of the titles all-time then there’s something fishy right?) are nearly done.  If LeBron can’t take the torch as the league’s great superstar (how can he be the best if he is not even the best player on his own team, and less clutch than Chris Bosh and Mario Chalmers?), are Rose and Durant ready to take over?  If I were the NBA I would push the Bulls more and try to work out some good trades to get Dwight Howard some good players around him (that’s what Pau Gasol is for).  

    The league still has superstars but they are not as marketable as when they had Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq, villain (and league’s best player) Kobe, and LeBron before he got horribly exposed this year as a showboating, poor-man’s Pippen. 

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  • #559093
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    I mentioned this a few weeks ago.  More options for the NBA guys.

    Supposedly Marc Gasol will play the year in Spain if this thing gets really messy.

    If a few players from each team go overseas (including a few all-stars) then that would hurt the league I think.

    If the NBA loses the whole season then it popularity will fall behind the NFL, college football, college basketball (this might actually help college basketball since guys would be more likely to stay longer), MLB, and the NHL (which is coming back in popularity).

    What do you think?  I think it could fall to around 6th place as far as sports go.  I would still put it ahead of NASCAR and golf though.

    Regarding LeBron, he is the guy the league has been marketing heavily for 8 years.  I know the ratings for the Heat surged, but it’s more about HATE than LOVE.  People hated the Heat, the Big Three, and especially LeBron.  But, if that HATE turns to indifference (the opposite of HATE is not LOVE) then that would hurt TV ratings next year.  … not sure how healthy it is that the most compelling player in the NBA is the one who is hated the most.  Worse, his flaws are being exposed so he might not be the top NBA player in terms of skills.  I am just wondering when the novelty of booing LeBron wears off.  Remember, when the Cavs made the Finals with LeBron the Finals drew paltry ratings even with the league’s up-and-coming superstar facing the NBA’s favorite "villain team" (the Spurs).  The novely aspect of The Decision, The Big Three, and the villiany of LeBron and Wade really helped the Finals.  But, you also had a very compelling Mavs team that rolled through the NBA, was basically a Cinderella Team built around a superstar (Dirk) and some good, likeable veterans such as Kidd, Marion, Terry, Peja, Chandler, and JJ Barea.  Those kinds of storylines and that kind of matchup will be hard to duplicate next year.

    The league’s big three teams of the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs (if you have a league where two teams have half of the titles all-time then there’s something fishy right?) are nearly done.  If LeBron can’t take the torch as the league’s great superstar (how can he be the best if he is not even the best player on his own team, and less clutch than Chris Bosh and Mario Chalmers?), are Rose and Durant ready to take over?  If I were the NBA I would push the Bulls more and try to work out some good trades to get Dwight Howard some good players around him (that’s what Pau Gasol is for).  

    The league still has superstars but they are not as marketable as when they had Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq, villain (and league’s best player) Kobe, and LeBron before he got horribly exposed this year as a showboating, poor-man’s Pippen. 

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