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  • #39222
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    Tobe Bryant
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    Am I the only one who feels that this “Twin Tower” thing a tad bit overrated?! I would much rather have a gong, athletic wing scorer and about two solid bench pieces while keeping one of the two.

    Will Bynum remain a Laker? Gasol? Is Sessions the future at PG?

    Who will attempt to acquire this off-season?

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  • #670903
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    tjmartin23
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     I may be crazy, but I’d definitely would love to see Allen Iverson in a Lakers uniform. There’s one thing that has to happen first, and that is he would need to know his role would be coming off the bench for instant offense. Who knows what the man still has left in the tank, but it cannot be any worse then what LA has on the bench now. 

    The thing that has hurt LA is scoring off the bench. When the second unit is on the court, there is no one who can create their own shot. It can also be an inncentive for AI to come to LA to chase a ring. 

    All in all, as a Lakers fan, I just want to see some scorers on our bench!

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  • #670902
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    UNCbasketballbum
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    yeah, it’s probably time for changes in Lakerland.  The Lakers desperatley need an athletic 3 to go along with an aging Kobe.  Either Bynum or Gasol has to go.  I would say Gasol.  Bynum is younger and more athletic.  I think the Lakers could get pretty good for Gasol who is still only 31.

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  • #670907
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    mookie
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    Changes definitely need to be made. Artest is way to bulky and lost any consistent scorin he used to offer.  Steve Blake is just horrible.  Matt Barnes???  Matt Barnes?  Hustles and has an attitude problem but don’t have much game.  Troy Murphy..yeah maybe 8 years ago.  Josh Mcroberts…whatever.  Jordan Hill might not be that bad now that he’s getting some time.  

    As far as Bynum and Gasol….they should be dominating.  I don’t know why they don’t  But they should never shoot below 50% for a game.  It seems as though Bynum is trying to get out of LA cuz of all the attitude problems he’s been having lately.  I get the sense he doesn’t want to play with the Lakers anymore.  I think they need to blow things up….trade both for Dwight and then get that athletic 3.  Love the idea of Iverson off the bench…like tjmartin said…can not be anyworse than what they have now.  

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  • #670915
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    SportsNinja
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    As long as Kobe is on the team they will never reach the Finals again. I made a post before last season that unless they can get Howard, I thought they should try to trade Kobe. It didn’t go over well, but Kobe is the type of player that will never play second fiddle again. He will always play like he is the best guy on the team, and in most cases he is, but that mentality can hinder a team.  

    I said some people think Kobe is clutch, but what I see is him having an opportunity to hit a game winning shot because he messes up a lot in the final two minutes. What you call clutch, I call him going 1 for 7 in the last few minutes. Last night it was turnovers and missed shots. 

    I’m not saying he’s done, although he is obviously not what he was. I just think that unless he changes his mindset, you can’t build a championship team with this Kobe. If Kobe currently had LBJ’s mindset I think the Lakers would benefit. Kobe doesn’t make players around him better, which was ok when he was the best player in the league, and it was what propelled them to a couple of those championships.

    Unless he changes his mentality, Kobe will never win another championship. 

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  • #670919
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I bet they miss Derek Fisher, he would have hit that shot.

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  • #670927
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "Am I the only one who feels that this "Twin Tower" thing a tad bit overrated?! I would much rather have a gong, athletic wing scorer and about two solid bench pieces while keeping one of the two."

    Have you noticed what the Spurs big men have done this postseason, or the fact that the Pacers are competitive with the Heat because of their big men? The Lakers, or really any team for that matter, aren’t going to outwing the Heat or Thunder to win a title.

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  • #670928
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    I’m with BTPH, the only reason it isn’t such a huge advantage anymore is because a couple of years ago, not many teams had two or three skilled big-men.  Nowadays, everybody has them because they wanted to match up with the Lakers.  It’s not that the Lakers don’t have a big advantage with the Twin Towers because they’re a "tad bit overrated" but because all of the other teams have evolved themselves to match-up with the Lakers.

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  • #670935
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    It isn’t as huge an advantage because of Lamar Odom who gave them that third big man to change the style but keep the size. Now, maybe the Lakers knew something about Odom and foresaw the trainwreck to come, but they whiffed horribly in thinking McRoberts and Murphy were capable of stepping in. In a compressed year, they have been leaning on Pau and Bynum (as well as Kobe) more than ever for huge minutes. The added minutes comes at a cost.

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  • #670941
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    Meditated States
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    They need a huge upgrade at PG. Might need to trade Kobe I agree. They would get a lot for him. He will never take back seat to Bynum. Teams normally stick with the younger star. Have a feeling they don’t have the nut$ to trade KB even if it would better the team.

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  • #670944
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Basically, it’s the fact that other teams have improved in terms of big-men and the Lakers took a huge step backwards.

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  • #670953
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    Tobe Bryant
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    So all in all, the size is OVER-RATED because everyone else is catching up to the Lakers in size? And y’all are right, I honestly don’t believe it is the fault of everyone else. Kobe is so arrogant and pompous in the sense of refusing to play second fiddle to anyone in the NBA. In a weird way, I want the Lakers to lose in order to humble Kobe and show him that his ways can sometimes hurt his team.

    Quite like life, everyone needs humbling and that one point where you need to be like, "Hey, back in the days, this worked for me dominating the ball and being the head honcho, but now, let me spread the wealth." 

    The Game 7 was exactly proof of what happens when Kobe is looking to involve others and play team ball! He inspires so many people by facilitating and giving confidence to teammates. So people literally need to be coddled in order to perform, and THAT is a fact. Steve Blake, Gasol, and especially the young guys need Kobe to give them reinforcement in order to improve.

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  • #670961
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    DurantsWingspan

    I dont think he really gives his teammates the confidence they need. I mean he just seems like an arrogant guy. If there are so many fans that hate him, I imagine a few people in the locker room feel the same way. Listen I am not saying that Kobe is a bad player, but some of those people around him aren’t that bad. Ramon Sessions was a good player before being traded to the Lakers. Troy Murphy might not be to good, but he used to get like 10 RPG, he should atleast be able to play a little, atleast give you some rotational minutes. It seems like some guys seem timid once they get with the Lakers. I mean obviously Ron Artest wasn’t going to be timid, but someone like Sessions or Murphy? I think playing with Kobe negatively effects them.

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  • #670969
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    bennydabull
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     Lakers aren’t going to trade Kobe.. that is just absurd. One poor outing in the clutch and now Kobe’s bad for the team? Cmon guys….

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  • #670972
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    DurantsWingspan

    But you also have to realize. One bad playoff game equals about ten bad regular season games.

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  • #670973
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    iguapops420
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     Sessions was left on the bench shooting sub 40% off the bench and couldn’t vwen start over Boobie Gibson or Mo Williams last year, no playing beside of Kobe had nothing to do with him all of a sudden sucking. Mike Brown thinking he is Derek Fisher has everything to do with it. Mike Brown doesn’t know how to properly utilize this team honestly. Simple as that. Kobe creating for others from 25ft? Sessions standing in the corner waiting for a spot up three instead of running pick and rolls. Personally, I blame Mike Brown for this team’s inability to play to its potential. That coupled with the fact that LAL is the ONLY team without even one single pure shooter. And I don’t wanna hear any of that Derek Fisher BS because the guy hasn’t been a pure shooter himself in about 2.5 years. Personally, I’d get rid of GAsol and go after KG as his replacement. Reup a LARGE portion of the team.

    Trade X from LO for KG.

    McBob and Glock for Boobie Gibson

    Gasol for Kevin MArtin,Chandler PArsons,Camby,#16,and the rights to Motiejunas

    Mini MLE for Antawn JAmison

    Vet Minimimum for Pietrus or Richard JEfferson if bought out.

    Bynum/Camby/Motie

    KG/Jamsion/Hill

    Pietrus/Parsons

    Kobe/Martin/Eyenga

    Sessions/Gibson/Morris

    May be a bit far fetched, but stranger things have happened. 

     

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