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- Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:29pm #36249
stepback3ParticipantKevin Love rakes Luis Scola’s face with his shoe.
Will/should he be punished?
There is no need for this in the NBA.0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:51pm #632225
NbanflguyParticipantI am not going to defend Love soley because he plays for my home town team, but he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Never had any thing like this happen before.
Looked like an accident to me and the only reason Scola was on the ground in the first place was because he was flopping around like a fish out of water. Cant stand floppers
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:03pm #632229
RUDEBOY_ParticipantAlot of people havent noticed it YET,but Scola is 1 of the most physical players in the league..I wouldnt care him dirty,Becuz he plays rough,not dirty..But he pushes players in the back,always elbowing guys in the chest & face trying to get the rebound..He’s had several incidents that had mild mannered guys like Rudy Gay & Derek Fisher hit him..And monday night he throw the ball into Love’s junk..Maybe thats why Love stepped on his face…..He’s smart and knows how to get away with it…But the players get so mad,they dont care who sees them,they only want to hit him…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:03pm #632231
NYK2010ParticipantDamn Love again he had a hard foul on Granger a few nights ago too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:22pm #632233
Johnny ChillChristian Laettner 2.0
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:44pm #632237
Dale WorthingtonParticipantI love Big Daddy Love but what he did was inexcusable. He better get suspended.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:32am #632241
RUDEBOY_ParticipantLOL..You guys must have not paid attention to Houston’s games and seen how rough Scola gets at times..Like i said, anytime you get a mild-mannered player like Rudy Gay ticked off,that he blantantly throws a forearm and hits Scola..Scola’s physical play has gotten under alot of player’s skin…..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:42am #632243
AccountCanBeDeletedParticipantWhoever said Kevin Love should be the given the benefit of the doubt, needs their eye’s checked. That stomp was plain dirty and it was intentional. I don’t care what Scola was doing to him leading up to it, there is no room for that in the NBA.
Hopefully he gets banned for a couple of games and given a hefty fine, don’t care how many double-doubles the guy gets, he shouldn’t have done it. Simple as that.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 2:08am #632253
khaled_a_dParticipant - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 5:34am #632274
scbe2223ParticipantI think it was blown a little out of proportion personally. It didn’t look that malicious or intentional. A fine might be in order but I think a suspension would be taking it a little far.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 5:37am #632276
A Lil EnglishParticipantI’m expecting a ban even if he is one of the new media darlings.
Bad move to put it lightly.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 5:54am #632280
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantScola never would’ve been on the floor if he wasn’t flopping/acting. He wasn’t hurt by Love… get over it.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 6:41am #632297
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantHave you seen the play where Scola rifles the ball into Love’s nutsack from 2 ft away? That was the more dirty play… not where Scola intentionally falls to the floor.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 6:55am #632302
IndianaBasketballParticipantJohnDoe is right though…
That was uncharacteristic by Love, but dirty and low nontheless.
It’ll be interesting to see how the league handles this…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:04am #632307
Scottoant93ParticipantAfter watching the reply that was clearly intentional he clearly paused and stepped on him. He should be fined and maybe one game suspension if that. Didnt hurt him but thats not the point. As for sculas physical play he he plays tough hes dirty if he doesnt hes soft ohhh the stereotypes haha
Didnt see the game so cant comment on sculas nutcheck thing but i do know purple monkey is a fan of minny so tell the truth if it it was the other way around would you still be saying the same thing. I do agree if wasnt a hard stomp more like like stay down type of foot push
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:15am #632311
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantSince the Wolves traded Garnett just about every team in the league has tried to push them around. Apparently tired of Scola’s numerous attempts the Wolves are responding in kind.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:16am #632308
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantLook up on youtube both videos and tell me which of the two would be the worse pain. It wouldn’t even be close for me… I’d take 10 or more kicks to the chops before taking one like Love took to the balls.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:29am #632314
AccountCanBeDeletedParticipantI’m afraid I didn’t see the match so can’t comment on that. All I’m saying is you can’t support what Love did because of what Scola might have been doing.
All I know from watching it several times is it was intentional by Love and that the league can’t exactly sit back and watch. The league has to set an example, if this goes unpunished then what happens next time someone gets a bit frustrated and ‘accidently’ kicks/punches/anything for that matter. They can just say he threw the ball at me, so now we’re even? I’m sorry but it doesn’t work like that, Love lost his cool and as a result will have to pay for it.
In regards to the punishment, I do feel they have to give him at least a 2-3 game suspension. This is simply down to the fact he did get his face, if it had been just his chest I would be more lenient. But the fact he got his face, just makes it worse for me as in most other sports where players wear studs on their trainers an incident like this would cause a media frenzy. But due to the fact his trainers are flat and it wasn’t very hard will probably make it a rather soft punishment in the NBA.
I honestly won’t lose sleep if at the end he doesn’t get suspended or fined, but if I was running the league I would set an example out of him. But that’s just me, can’t comment on anyone else.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:31am #632315
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantSo what you are saying is you base your entire arguement on only part of the facts?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:42am #632318
AccountCanBeDeletedParticipantNo what I’m saying is you can’t justify stamping on someone’s face in a basketball game. I don’t care how dirty the other guy was playing you can’t let it affect you and you have to keep your cool. Simple as that, if Scola done something which merits a suspension please feel free to make a thread about it and I’ll be open to discussing it with you.
But if your only argument in regards to this thread is that Kevin Love’s stamp is acceptable because Scola was playing dirty, then I won’t bother trying to discuss it with you. As your obviously failing to grasp anything I’m saying.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:43am #632319
Scottoant93ParticipantI just saw the ball to the nuts vid. Yeah that is painful, i had to it happen me before so yes it obviously more painful, hard to tell if its intentional though, because while it looks like scola is trying to save it also looks like hes aiming at feet. Love moved when he threw it, but you can also argue scola was actually aiming it there.Hard to see that one. I will give scola credit for atleast showing some concern(pat on the back not much, but most nba players would just walk off and not even care).
As for the pushing around, Twolves need someone to step up physically for them so that wont happen, there are other ways of doing it but i guess love choose this one. Atleast their at .500 something they havent done in a while
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:44am #632320
RUDEBOY_ParticipantIt seems that PurpleMonkey is the only 1 that gets it…Scola does things that gets under players skin..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:46am #632322
RUDEBOY_ParticipantI’ve played ball against guys that werent dirty players,but they played wild and reckless,thats how Scola plays…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:50am #632323
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantI’m grasping every part of your idle rambling… but it’s based on 1/10 of the facts. Sometimes a small picture does tell the whole story ther way you want it too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:52am #632326
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantHe was 2 ft. way… you don’t hit crotch aiming for feet
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:56am #632330
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantCreate a thread about a shot to the nutsack? LMFAO!!! Why don’t you create a thread about why you feel it’s necessary to create a thread about a shot to the nutsack.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:57am #632331
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantsdrgyh
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:59am #632333
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantYou lost any credibility with me when you admitted you were basing your entire arguement on only part of the facts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:59am #632332
AccountCanBeDeletedParticipant@ Rudeboy
"Scola does things that gets under players skin.."
So the fact Scola does things to get under players skin justifies a stamp to his face?
@ PurpleMonkey
Ok PurpleMonkey, seeing as you obviously think that everything I’m saying is nonsense and you obviously fail to agree with anything I’m saying. In your next post, give me your reasoning to why Kevin Love stamp is justified and why it shouldn’t merit a suspension.
As all I’m saying is a bunch of ‘idle rambling’ and I’m not painting this bigger picture you want, this should be a pretty simple task for you.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:08am #632337
AccountCanBeDeletedParticipant@ PurpleMonkey
Being new to this forum, I don’t know if I should be asking this. But I figure I might as well.
Are you a child? Or are you always this stubborn?
Either way this will be my last post to you in regards to this topic, because sadly all I’m doing is wasting my time trying to talk to a brick wall.
John Doe.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:40am #632345
IndianaBasketballParticipantIs this really even that hard? I think PurpleMonkey is just being difficult…
Regardless of what Scola did, Love isn’t justified to step on someone’s face. I mean, looking at the video, it isn’t even clear that Scola through the ball at his n*ts intentionally. I’ve seen that happen plenty of times.
What Love did was intentional though and you just can’t do that. I don’t care how much somebody "got under your skin". Let’s allow players to step on everyone’s face that gets under their skin. That should put a good product on the floor.
Everybody knows Love is a good person, but this was a no-no and he does deserve an suspension.
JohnDoe is on point and welcome to the site.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:42am #632346
apb540ParticipantThey should suspend Scola for the flop and Love for the (fully intentional) stepping on the face. They were both pathetic in their own way.
John Doe we see you name to the left of your post. No need to bold it at the end of your post.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:53am #632350
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantHave you heard/read Scola or Loves response? Neither the alleged victim or alleged perpetrator share your oppinion. I’m not being difficult asking for a little research to be done before suspending a guy.
Do you now wear a black and white striped shirt as you post?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:54am #632349
Jlv2011in the playoffs a few year ago because of his dirty play. Good for Love. They should suspend him for several games though.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:57am #632352
river09ParticipantPersonally I think this is completely overblown… I sincerely doubt that it was intentional… Rather it looks like Love tripped on Scola and just tried to regain his balance and instead of falling on the floor he put his foot down on something solid.. Unfortunately for Scola it just happened to be face.. He was fine, relax people.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:04am #632355
PulseGlazerParticipantA game or 2 suspension seems warranted – and Love’s probably my favorite player. It’s unacceptable.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:11am #632360
IndianaBasketballParticipantDo you now wear a black and white striped shirt as you post?
I don’t know what you mean… Why, because I agreed with the new guy?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:20am #632366
PlatypusParticipant"He was just trying to get his balance"
-Ndamukong Suh
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:25am #632368
BiggysmallsParticipantI will start by saying I am biased as a Twolves fan and I didnt see the game but I saw the "stomp"
I consider a stomp what Suh did on Turkey day. That was hardly a stomp. He stepped on him, but that was not a stomp. It looks to me like he lost his footing a bit with Scola on the ground with his arms up to protect himself. Scolas arms got tangled with Loves foot and he lost his footing.
Whoever said the foul on Granger was a dirty of cheap foul has me lost as well. He was going for a loose ball, again, lost his footing or balance and came down on Granger, and instead of completely flattening him, he grabbed him to keep him up. There was alot of contact but cmon people. Granger got in his face and he didnt fire back at all…that tells me he wasnt intentionally doing anything dirty.
But hey, I just might need to get my eyes checked, cuz you know if people disagree, it must be something wrong with their eyes…seems logical.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 10:03am #632385
bball guyParticipantDirty move. Seems like an alright guy but he still has to get punished. No way thats a accident.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:28pm #632443
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantYou only respondedto part of the question… the referee part should’ve been obvious. The other part was did you take time to see what Scola or Loves response was to what happened? I’d guess you were spouting without knowing the facts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:43pm #632447
Maniac MaciejParticipantThrowing the ball back in bounds off a player like Scola did is a pretty routine play…unfortunately, Kevin Love, for some reason, never saw that one coming.
Love’s move also wasn’t entirely malicious, because if he wanted to hurt him, he would have really stomped him like Ndamukong, not just kinda lightly tripped over him. Still, he clearly did it in the heat of the game to send a message, and you can’t get away with stomping on a dude’s face. 1-2 game suspension at most.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/05/2012 - 7:00pm #632474
aamir543ParticipantI thought it was on his chest, not his face. But still dirty. He’ll get a 25K fine, and maybe a game or suspension.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/06/2012 - 8:07am #632601
IndianaBasketballParticipantWell, the league suspended Love for two games.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:11pm #633039
PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipantI booked marked you so I will be returnng the favor… count on it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/10/2012 - 8:02am #634556
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt must have come as a complete shock to no one that ESPN’s handling and message on the stomp bore no resemblance to how they handled Andrew Bynum’s dirty play in the Dallas.
It is good for a player to play nice with ESPN. It is a little like the story about Charlotte Church singing at Rupert Murdoch’s wedding and having her handlers wave the appearance fee in exchange for favorable coverage.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/10/2012 - 8:02am #634557
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt must have come as a complete shock to no one that ESPN’s handling and message on the stomp bore no resemblance to how they handled Andrew Bynum’s dirty play in the Dallas.
It is good for a player to play nice with ESPN. It is a little like the story about Charlotte Church singing at Rupert Murdoch’s wedding and having her handlers wave the appearance fee in exchange for favorable coverage.
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