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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 5:37am #48106
SwatLakeCityParticipantWho should the jazz draft? If the jazz make the playoffs they will have the 17th pick, while the Suns get the lakers pick at 14, but if they don’t then they have the 14th pick and Cavs get the lakers pick at 17.The jazz are also likely to get the 20th or the 21st pick from the Warriors. (depending on how the warriors and rockets finish out the season.
So here is my order for the best possible jazz draftees.
No playoffs. Playoffs
14 McCollum 17 Adams
20-21 McGary. 20-21 Kabongo14 McCollum. 17 McGary
20-21 Adams. 20-21 Kabongo14 Adetokoubo. 17 Caldwell-Pope
20-21 Kabongo. 20-21 Kabongo14 Olynyk 17 Saric
20-21 Kabongo. 20-21 Kabongo14 Plumlee. 17 McDermott
20-21 Kabongo. 20-21 Kabongo14 McCollum. 17 Kabongo
20-21 Austin. 20-21 Austin14 McCollum. 17 Kabongo
20-21 Noguiera. 20-21 Noguiera14 McCollum. 17 Kabongo
20-21 Gobert. 20-21 GobertWhat’s your order, and why. Would the jazz be better off if they did make the playoffs or if they didn’t?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 5:48am #763103
220ParticipantI doubt the Jazz draft a big guy in the first round unless they plan to let both Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap walk. On paper CJ McCollum makes sense because the Jazz don’t have a young point guard. Point guard is likely to be their priority in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 5:50am #763101
drk3351ParticipantMcCollum would be a good fit and he should be available, but I were them id consider packaging some picks and maybe milsap or jefferson to trade into the toP 7 to grab Trey Burke who would be q great fit for them. It’s about time they trade big man to get more playing time for favors and manger anyway.
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 7:06am #763133
GREENE1148ParticipantBurke falls to 10 (unlikely bot possible) do you trade 15 and 21 to OKC for Burke?
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 8:55am #763168
fastdanParticipantOKC already has the 31st and 29th pick. I doubt they would want 4 rookies on their team next year. I think they’re more likely to trade up and try to find 3rd or 4th option on their offense.
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 8:08pm #763343
GREENE1148ParticipantI definitely agree that they would not want 4 rookies filling out their roster, but i almost assume if they wanted to get two mid firsts, they would end up taking at least one guy to draft and stash. Saric or Adetokunbo? They have a 3rd and 4th option moving forward imo, Serge Ibaka and Jeremy Lamb…either way they go isn’t a bad thing, trade up if Len is looking like being off the board at 10, or feel they need a higher pick to get their guy… but in this draft, i think for their needs (4th options/projects) they might value the two mid first more for their needs…
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:07am #763113
SwatLakeCityParticipant220, it’s pretty obvious that either millsap or jefferson will leave next year via free agency. It’s also likely that both leave. So I think it’s very possible the jazz draft a big man in the first round. That’s a truth that every nba fan should know.
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 7:32am #763145
220ParticipantThat’s exactly why I said what I said. The Jazz will only draft a big guy in the first round if their intent is to let both Jefferson and Millsap go. If you’re going to re-sign one of them then there isn’t a point in drafting another big guy who won’t be able to crack the Jefferson/Millsap, Favors, and Kanter rotation. But if they plan on letting both guys walk then it makes sense to take a big in the first round.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:12am #763114
KHAM83ParticipantBefore considering where they should go, first consider what they will do with their current options.
1. I doubt they retain either Jefferson or Milsap. Jefferson is obviously gone, and while I think theyll love to keep Milsap, dont you think Milsap wants to go somewhere he can be the starter? Favors/Kanter is the future, I dont see him willing to hang around knowing this. Indy will have cap space and being younger than David West, I think he’s a better option for Indy.2. I think a sign-n-trade for a higher pick is out of the question. No team picking ahead of them will be interested in either Jefferson or Milsap. Philly may be, and I think Milsap will be great there, but I doubt they give up their pick for him. I would however like to see them sign-n-trade one or both for other players to add to their depth.
With that said- I think if they can package both picks to get into position for Burkes, then you do it. Maybe even consider moving Burks with their later pick to get him, only if Pope falls to their first pick and he impresses. If they keep both picks, I see them grabbing the best pg on the board whether it McCollum, MCW, or Kabongo. I personally think Kabongo is the better fit out of this option. He is a pass first pg, who will be on a team of potential scorers throughout. Burks-Hayward-Favors-Kanter at best can all put up #s is what Im saying.
Question: Ive never seen McCollum play. Is he a starting pg or a combo? I dont want people overrating him bc of Lilliard’s success.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:23am #763117
scliddiardParticipantThe Jazz definitely need to draft a point guard and McCollum sounds like he would be the type of player we need, he’s a tweener, scoring type point and I would prefer a pass first point guard but we also need a point who can break the defense down and score. McCollum does sound like he can do that. He has good size for a point and has pretty good length.
With the second pick of the 1st round I would love to see the Jazz get McGary, love what I have seen of his game , although that hasn’t been all that much, he would be a good fit along side Favors and Kanter. We could then let Milsap and Jefferson go. I’d love to see Kabongo be available for the Jazz in the second round, he probably won’t last that long but it would be nice.0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:32am #763121
KHAM83ParticipantBeing a Jazz fan, and being the future at all other 4 starting positions seems to be locked, would you be opposed to them drafting PGs with both first round picks? Say McColum as the safety net and Kabongo for the upside? Let them battle it out- best case scenerio you strike gold with two talented pgs, where McColum can be the combo off the bench. If this is the case, they can sign-n-trade Jefferson and/or Milsap for depth at other positions. I woudnt bash them for taking the “Khan” approach here bc pg position is a question mark for them. Add a talented one to this team then wow! but fail to do so, this team woudlnt go far. Pretty soon theyll be a low seed playoff team, drafting too low to get a pg and over the cap when they have to resign Favors, Hayward, Burks, Kanter..,..
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:48am #763124
scliddiardParticipantWith McCollum being a tweener, scoring type PG that could be a posssiblity , I haven’t seen enough of either McCollum or Kabongo to be confident that either one will turn out to be the pg/leader we need but we need to do something in that area. We need players with handles that can break the defense down and create for themselves and others. I’m hoping McCollum and Kabongo could do that, so your idea of 2 point guards in the 1st round isn’t too bad.
I do think that if McGary was available, I’d take him, we need a big to go along with Favors and Kanter and I love the skill set I’ve seen from McGary. (limited as it is)0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 7:35am #763148
bloodshyParticipantI think the Jazz should attempt to trade both of their picks to move up and get Burke (if possible). That is likely not going to be possible. Assuming Burke is not an option, I’d like the Jazz to use their first pick on the BPA regardless of position. I’d hope for GR3 if he’s available. Then, with the 20th pick the Jazz should take the best pg left. McCollum, MCW or Kabongo will be available. I think each has similar value at this point, though my preference would be Kabongo.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 8:48am #763165
lukestine13ParticipantI hope they go with the greek guy with there first pick and Kabongo with the GSW pick. Plus what ever gem they have been watching for their second rounder. I really hope the jazz are willing to play a younger team next year and dont go and get any more mercinary vets if we are to take a step backwards next year is the year to do it.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 11:04am #763194
WinterSoldierParticipantI would rather see them get the Greek Freak and KCP with this draft. Next year look to get a PG like Andrew Harrison, Kasey Hill, Semaj Christon, or Tyrone Wallace. They all look better than anyone in this draft class.
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 9:04pm #763352
GREENE1148ParticipantThey are a borderline playoff team this year, I like your optimism of lucking out to win the lottery and get Harrison!
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 12:11pm #763203
fcb206ParticipantI bet they take a big white guy.
0- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 8:58pm #763351
GREENE1148ParticipantThis isn’t the Minnesota Timberwolves
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 5:41pm #763310
lukestine13Participantcheck out utah’s roster there is only one white guy on it. so enough of the stereotypes about the jazz being the whitest team in the nba.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/15/2013 - 6:03pm #763315
TheLastWordParticipantThe Jazz will draft big with one of the picks, book it, they can’t get these type of guys through free agency like most teams can. I know they have Kanter and Favors but you need 3 big men and will easily be outbid on Jefferson and Millsap. They will look to draft PG with the other pick. If McCollum is there at 14 they take him, if not they go big at 14 and draft Kabongo at 21.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 04/16/2013 - 12:49am #763366
j1232eParticipantI dont think people understand that Millslap and Big Al are both free agents, you can not trade a free agent. People need to start understanding the rules of the NBA offseason. Getting that off my mind, a Jazz trade to get a higher pick is very unlikely because you would have to give up one of the last 4 draft picks they have had in the lottery. That is very unlikely.
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