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- Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2016 - 11:47pm #63716
UC1000ParticipantWho would go number 1 from those two depend on the team imo.
Boston- Ingram. They need a dynamic scorer.
Minnesota- Simmons. A distributor for those young guys is needed more than a scorer.
Philadelphia- Ingram. They need a wing who can score more than a distributor to guys who can’t shoot.
Phoenix- Simmons. A distributor with Booker would be ideal and would make Knight or Bledsoe expendable as they should be.
Lakers- Simmons. Draymond Green skills don’t come around often.
New Orleans- Ingram. A scorer to take some pressure off of Davis is needed more than a distributor who can’t shoot.
Just the teams that have the best shot at number 1. Watch someone come out of the wood work Tuesday.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 12:19am #1061993
WildgooseParticipantI don’t know about the Celtics taking Ingram. To me it seems like they are stuck with guards that can’t create for others or can only create for themselves (Thomas). I think Simmons would be a good fit there.
Otherwise I would go:
T’wolves: Ingram – They need shooting and it would clog up the offsense to much to have Rubio and Simmons.
76ers: Ingram – again shooting plus too many bigs already
Suns: Ingram – They should already have too many ball handlers without adding a 3rd.
Lakers – Simmons, gives D’Angelo a friend
New Orleans – Ingram, again they need shooting and will need it even more when Anderson bolts.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 10:14pm #1062165
MopgrassParticipantI don’t agree with your post, but I laughed a long time about Simmons giving D’Angelo a friend.
Ingram is my favorite prospect, but I still see most teams taking Simmons. I think they’re close enough in ability where you can draft according to position or style. I think only the Sixers and Lakers would take Ingram 1st. Correction: I believe the Lakers should go for Ingram, but might draft Simmons so they can trade Randle for whoever the oldest point guard in the league is.
I think Ingram can play a lot of different ways. To start, he could blend in with the team, make shots when needed, and occasionally drive to the rack. If a team gave him 30 minutes, he could score 9 to 12 and that would be alright with him. But Simmons, he needs to be the man. He needs the ball and he’s more likely to be ready on Day 1. If you are a team that hasn’t got a clue who their franchise guy is yet (Celtics, Suns), you should probably go with Simmons. Wolves have someone awesome at every spot but PF (PG is debatable) and New Orleans… I guess they could go either way. They don’t have enough passers or shooters. Simmons and Davis sounds like a fun two man team. Ditch the rest of the team and surround them with shooters.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 10:14pm #1062287
MopgrassParticipantI don’t agree with your post, but I laughed a long time about Simmons giving D’Angelo a friend.
Ingram is my favorite prospect, but I still see most teams taking Simmons. I think they’re close enough in ability where you can draft according to position or style. I think only the Sixers and Lakers would take Ingram 1st. Correction: I believe the Lakers should go for Ingram, but might draft Simmons so they can trade Randle for whoever the oldest point guard in the league is.
I think Ingram can play a lot of different ways. To start, he could blend in with the team, make shots when needed, and occasionally drive to the rack. If a team gave him 30 minutes, he could score 9 to 12 and that would be alright with him. But Simmons, he needs to be the man. He needs the ball and he’s more likely to be ready on Day 1. If you are a team that hasn’t got a clue who their franchise guy is yet (Celtics, Suns), you should probably go with Simmons. Wolves have someone awesome at every spot but PF (PG is debatable) and New Orleans… I guess they could go either way. They don’t have enough passers or shooters. Simmons and Davis sounds like a fun two man team. Ditch the rest of the team and surround them with shooters.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 12:19am #1062116
WildgooseParticipantI don’t know about the Celtics taking Ingram. To me it seems like they are stuck with guards that can’t create for others or can only create for themselves (Thomas). I think Simmons would be a good fit there.
Otherwise I would go:
T’wolves: Ingram – They need shooting and it would clog up the offsense to much to have Rubio and Simmons.
76ers: Ingram – again shooting plus too many bigs already
Suns: Ingram – They should already have too many ball handlers without adding a 3rd.
Lakers – Simmons, gives D’Angelo a friend
New Orleans – Ingram, again they need shooting and will need it even more when Anderson bolts.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 2:17am #1062003
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantIngram fits the Lakers. Russell needs the ball in his hands
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 4:12am #1062013
Bankroll PJParticipantRussell is good with the ball in his hands but I wouldn’t say he needs it. He’s a good spot up shooter and impressed me this year with the way he moves and cuts off the ball. The Lakers just need talent so I don’t think it matters who they draft, but they desperately need to stay in the top 3 and keep this pick. Ingram probably fits better, but I still believe Simmons has the best chance of becoming a superstar and thats what you want in a number 1 pick. A Simmons pick may put Julius Randle’s future with the Lakers in question, but that’s a risk they have to take. Additionally, if either Julius Randle or Ben Simmons ever increased their range to the 3 point line, a small ball lineup with Russell, Clarkson, (insert small forward), Randle, and Simmons could be dangerous, because every player would be able to grab a rebound and start the offense. That’s a HUGE if though, because neither player has a good looking stroke.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 4:12am #1062136
Bankroll PJParticipantRussell is good with the ball in his hands but I wouldn’t say he needs it. He’s a good spot up shooter and impressed me this year with the way he moves and cuts off the ball. The Lakers just need talent so I don’t think it matters who they draft, but they desperately need to stay in the top 3 and keep this pick. Ingram probably fits better, but I still believe Simmons has the best chance of becoming a superstar and thats what you want in a number 1 pick. A Simmons pick may put Julius Randle’s future with the Lakers in question, but that’s a risk they have to take. Additionally, if either Julius Randle or Ben Simmons ever increased their range to the 3 point line, a small ball lineup with Russell, Clarkson, (insert small forward), Randle, and Simmons could be dangerous, because every player would be able to grab a rebound and start the offense. That’s a HUGE if though, because neither player has a good looking stroke.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 2:17am #1062126
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantIngram fits the Lakers. Russell needs the ball in his hands
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 4:43am #1062015
TheGuyParticipantDraft who you think will be the best player…..I don’t get why people make this more confusing than it needs to be. 3-5 years from now these rosters for most of these teams (except Minnesota) will likely look very different and you’re going to want the player who is better. Nobody is going to care or remember what your team was back then.
Back in 09 GS took Curry, they already had Ellis, it wasn’t the best fit for the team at the time, but GS is sure as hell they took the best player and didn’t worry about drafting for a need for a medicore team. Now, I wouldn’t say be like Hinkie and draft big men year after year or Khan and draft as many PG’s as possible, but you get my point.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 4:43am #1062138
TheGuyParticipantDraft who you think will be the best player…..I don’t get why people make this more confusing than it needs to be. 3-5 years from now these rosters for most of these teams (except Minnesota) will likely look very different and you’re going to want the player who is better. Nobody is going to care or remember what your team was back then.
Back in 09 GS took Curry, they already had Ellis, it wasn’t the best fit for the team at the time, but GS is sure as hell they took the best player and didn’t worry about drafting for a need for a medicore team. Now, I wouldn’t say be like Hinkie and draft big men year after year or Khan and draft as many PG’s as possible, but you get my point.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 8:00am #1062178
DukeDaSquadParticipantNot taking simmons 1st is career suicide for a GM. If he doesn’t pan out ( I think he will be a superstar) then you don’t face criticism cause he was projected number 1 since high school. If he does pan out, you have a superstar.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 8:00am #1062055
DukeDaSquadParticipantNot taking simmons 1st is career suicide for a GM. If he doesn’t pan out ( I think he will be a superstar) then you don’t face criticism cause he was projected number 1 since high school. If he does pan out, you have a superstar.
0- Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 1:19pm #1062257
VRod305ParticipantWorst case scenario, Simmons is an Paul Millsap type. Worst case scenario, Brandon Ingram is Darius Miller. Quite a large difference there.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 1:19pm #1062379
VRod305ParticipantWorst case scenario, Simmons is an Paul Millsap type. Worst case scenario, Brandon Ingram is Darius Miller. Quite a large difference there.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 9:03am #1062180
publius2481ParticipantIf you have the number 1 pick, you take the best available player. Taking a less talented player, even if they fit better in the short term is the road to failure. Your taking this player for the next eight years. Focusing on fit now is focusing too much on the short term at the expense of the long term.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 9:03am #1062057
publius2481ParticipantIf you have the number 1 pick, you take the best available player. Taking a less talented player, even if they fit better in the short term is the road to failure. Your taking this player for the next eight years. Focusing on fit now is focusing too much on the short term at the expense of the long term.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 1:09pm #1062224
Al PerezParticipantSimmons will go number 1 whoever gets the pick…he’s the best player in the draft…Jonathan Givony starts a dumbass rumor that Ingram has surpassed Simmons…not true…has he closed the gap? Yes….you still don’t take Ingram over Simmons no matter what need you have…now I can’t wait for Tuesday :).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 1:09pm #1062101
Al PerezParticipantSimmons will go number 1 whoever gets the pick…he’s the best player in the draft…Jonathan Givony starts a dumbass rumor that Ingram has surpassed Simmons…not true…has he closed the gap? Yes….you still don’t take Ingram over Simmons no matter what need you have…now I can’t wait for Tuesday :).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 11:30pm #1062175
Hype MachineNBA teams want a star they can market. If theres 2 guys of equal talent….the marketable guy gets chosen.
Philly didnt take Porzingis cos they were worried about fan backlash. Lakers took Russell cos he has some style to market and Okafor is a bit bland.
Yao Ming overtook Jay Williams for that China fanbase.
Simmons was been putting bread on ESPN and Draft Expresses table all year. NBA teams know whats good. Follow Simmons and you follow the money.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/14/2016 - 11:30pm #1062297
Hype MachineNBA teams want a star they can market. If theres 2 guys of equal talent….the marketable guy gets chosen.
Philly didnt take Porzingis cos they were worried about fan backlash. Lakers took Russell cos he has some style to market and Okafor is a bit bland.
Yao Ming overtook Jay Williams for that China fanbase.
Simmons was been putting bread on ESPN and Draft Expresses table all year. NBA teams know whats good. Follow Simmons and you follow the money.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 1:17pm #1062255
VRod305ParticipantI’ll puke if the Sixers take Ingram over Simmons. You have to take the best player and Simmons is by far the best player. No comparison.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 1:17pm #1062377
VRod305ParticipantI’ll puke if the Sixers take Ingram over Simmons. You have to take the best player and Simmons is by far the best player. No comparison.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 3:48pm #1062405
ExumInfernoParticipantEvery team will take Simmons first. Simmons is bigger, more versatile, a better passer, and they shoot free throws at a similar percentage.
Ingram’s outside shot isn’t enough to get him past Simmons, as teams that need shooting can find it elsewhere but a 6-10 point guard/power forward is more unique.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/15/2016 - 3:48pm #1062283
ExumInfernoParticipantEvery team will take Simmons first. Simmons is bigger, more versatile, a better passer, and they shoot free throws at a similar percentage.
Ingram’s outside shot isn’t enough to get him past Simmons, as teams that need shooting can find it elsewhere but a 6-10 point guard/power forward is more unique.
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