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- Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 7:56pm #27275
Ghost01ParticipantFirst i would like to apologize if this post is too similar to my last, but its intended to be quite different.
Now i know Kyrie’s 2nd half body language/production will tell you the exact opposite, and money talks and no one can question his status as a top 3 pick. But If i were him, i couldnt walk out on my team after getting beaten handily by an inferior team.
I can relate, at the end of my sophomore year of HS, i was ready to hang up the sneakers, chasing broads and getting paid seemed more important than spending so much time practicing basketball. I was a starter, but definitely not a star. Our last game soph year we lost to our rivals in a game that was just straight disapointing. It angered me so much, i had to come back junior year just because i couldnt end my career losing that way.
I know quitting because you arent great and going to the NBA are entirely different, but if i were Kyrie Irving, and i had any sense of pride i would wanna come back with my boy Austin Rivers, and take over college hoops. Spending a year learning Cleveland or Sacramento’s system and losing 65 games might earn you money, but being immortalized, and feeling a true sense of glory can only be accomplished if he comes back.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:30pm #513487
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantBut you’re not.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:42pm #513489
NickWayne87Participantbut he’s gone, and it’s the RIGHT decision.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:42pm #513490
NickWayne87Participantbut he’s gone, and it’s the RIGHT decision.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:48pm #513491
Meditated StatesParticipantNothing to even think on and say your goodbyes
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:49pm #513492
Ghost01ParticipantThank for reminding me tongueout, you really made me come to realize my potential in life with that greatly insightful comment.
And its not the right decision. I agree hes gone, but mark my word he will be a medioocre guard in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:53pm #513495
NickWayne87Participantbecause his draft stock is as high now as it’ll ever be….if he comes back he’ll run the risk of getting exposed and picked lower…..kyle singler made this mistake staying all four years, he should’ve come out his freshman year he was projected to be a top 5 pick at that time, now he’ll be lucky to be picked in the first round at all…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:55pm #513497
Ghost01ParticipantYou are speaking in terms of dollars and cents. In that case, duh, he should go pro. Im talking in maxing out his potential. If hes that good, he will only get better. if he exposes himself, so be it. If hes not that good and gets pushed into some god aweful team’s starting 5 from day 1, it will be awefully difficult for him to succeed.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:00pm #513500
Chicago1980ParticipantThere is no way he should stay. The chance to play at the highest level of baskeball yeah it sucks to lose like that but getting paid is more important and he cant risk getting hurt again. He is pretty much guaranteed a lottery spot in this years draft so why wait.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:00pm #513499
NickWayne87Participantif it don’t make dollars then it don’t make SENSE……we gotta eat out here, if he’s that good, he will only get better while in the league on the highest possible rookie contract he can obtain, if he exposes himself while in the league atleast he made the money while he could instead of running the risk of never earning it at all……that man got do what’s best for him to SURVIVE, not what’s best for our college basketball entertainment.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:04pm #513501
NickWayne87Participantit’s also better for Austin Rivers draft stock if he doesn’t have to share the limelight with Irving and can dominate as the focal point
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 12:16am #513511
iguapops420ParticipantKinda reminds me of Noah a few years ago when just after Florida’s first title he was nearly a lock for top pick ahead of Bargnani and Co., but as we know Noah has too much of a competetive spririt for that. Going back to Florida ultimately exposed many of his flaws and showed his true potential, taking a backseat to Horford and Brewer who were both having breakout seasons themeselves. He won another b2b national championship and added his name to the NCAA history books. If you ask Noah if it was the right choice, similar to Kyle Singler who’s draft stock still doesn’t fall out of the mid 20’s IMO, if their choices to stay were wrong, both would say they’d do it again in a heartbeat. Irving is a near lock for the number one pick, but after tonight it’s not nearly as much of a lock IMO, and given all his comments about going back to school if Rivers committed to Duke, I’d say the odds are he goes back to further develop his overall game. PG’s of his nature usually don’t quite pan out as nicely when they leave school after their Freshman seasons. It’s not as if Chris Paul and D-Will are worrying too much about being 3rd and 4th picks instead of the rightful 1 and 2. Staying that extra year or two is pivitol in the development of great pg’s as it helps them learn nuances of the pg position. If I were Kyrie, I would say, but I’m still on the fence as to whether he actually will or not.
0- Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 4:35am #513530
Colaa_2ParticipantIt is easy to sit here and say, oh if I was Kyrie I would stay and try to become a legend at Duke, but you really do not know unless you are in that situation. If you are guarenteed to be a top 5 pick, like Kyrie is, you go and take the money. No point in risking injury, again.
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- Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 3:58am #513523
Chicago1980ParticipantYou are so right about Noah iguapops420 I forgot all about that he was almost guaranteed the #1 pick and he decided to go back to school it worked out alright for him but if youre Kyrie why risk dropping in the draft when your stock is so high right now. He hasnt played a lot of games becasue of the injury so going back to school like someone said may show some of his weaknesses and he may drop in the next years draft.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 4:09am #513526
OhCanada-ParticipantIf Noah had been selected 1st overall he probally wouldve been a better player then he is today. Toronto would have put in a tremoundous effort to develop him and make sure he was the correct pick. Also he wouldve been alot more confident as a #1 pick. He wouldve believed he was that guy, we wouldve believed it, an the GMs around the league wouldve believed it. I wish he went into the draft that year lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 5:27am #513543
PureshooterParticipantHe has to go. He’d be crazy not to.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 7:15am #513560
Ghost01ParticipantI just love how everyone assumes if he stays hes either
A. Going to get hurt and kill his NBA career
B. Going to be much worse than he was as a freshman and kill his NBA career.
Yes, him and Joakim Noah have absolutely nothing in common. Good comparison.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 7:49am #513574
sheltwon3ParticipantI am curious unless you are a second round pick or a player that will not get burn, why not go to the NBA. You can actually develop your game more in the NBA than college. College has rules that limits contact. Also you can hire a chef and personal trainer and be in the best shape. I do think it depends on the person but Irving seems like someone that will come out and continue to work on his game. It also depends on the situation.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 8:02am #513579
Mr. 19134ParticipantDerrick Rose, Reke Evans, Brandon Jennings, Jrue Holliday, John Wall, and even Russ Westbrook only had one year as a starter. All of them players were only one year removed from high school before entering the draft and turned out doing fine when they got to the league. The point is that the PG position in the NBA is not about developed skill like footwork in the post, or jump shooting, and is more about natural abilities like ball handling and feel for the game. Irving has already proved he can run Coach K’s offense why does he need to stay another year? Coach K would tell you right now that Irving is ready for the draft so why would he stay again? Senior Nolan Smith who is a NPOY candidate took a back seat to Irving in the final game because he knows how good he is.
I can understand if you say he should stay just so you can see him and Rivers player together now that would be fun. But it is also going to hurt Rivers chances of going number one by either proving he can play lead guard or going off for 25 points everynight.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 8:35am #513597
andxxxParticipantStaying in college is overrated for players as talented as Kyrie Irving when he goes to the NBA he’ll be able to work on his game year round not having to worry about school and will develop better in the NBA. Besides I don’t feel Kyrie Irving and Austin Rivers could necessarily be as successful sharing the backcourt they both need the ball in their hands
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 8:46am #513603
OhCanada-ParticipantYes, him and Joakim Noah have absolutely nothing in common. Good comparison.
Yeah thats two completly different situations, I mean Irving is a Freshman right now as well. I think Irving should leave now for the cash, because next year his chances of being a Top 3 pick are definitely not as high. Its a risky decision, but he has to make it. If he lands on a team like the Wolves, Kings, or raps his career will be set. They will make sure they develop, overutilize, and overpay him when its time to resign.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/25/2011 - 8:55am #513605
PureshooterParticipantThe thing is, he has to be thinking about his entire family as well. I don’t really know his family situation, but unless you come from a wealthy family as soon as you get drafted as a lottery pick you can basically turn their entire lives around financially. It’d be hard to say to your family, "Just hold on another year. I’m having fun in college."
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