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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 5:42pm #51812

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Both saw gametime overnight for Australia in a game against New Zealand in the FIBA Oceania championships. Neither got much gametime (5 minutes each), but it is exciting for Australian basketball to see these two in the National team.
A future starting 5 of PG – Patty Mills SG – Dante Exum SF – Ben Simmons PF – Thon Maker C – Andrew Bogut would be the most exciting lineup we’ve had in a long time. (Although by the time these guys hit their peak Bogut will be pretty old)
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 6:49pm #833836

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Bogut has retired from international play and even so, by the time Exum and Simmons are ready to start he’d be in the twilight of his career (the later of which I believe you mentioned). Aron Baynes would be probably be a better starter at centre in the long term.
As a New Zealander I loved both guys when they were on. Exum looked confident and controlled. His missed three was pray at the end of the shot clock I believe. Simmons got a steal and slam which absolutely silenced the crowd in NZ.
Can’t believe the Tall Blacks blew our lead though, despite the fact it’s basically our 2nd team. Vukona in foul trouble and Webster being too shot happy hurt us down the stretch.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 6:49pm #833730

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Bogut has retired from international play and even so, by the time Exum and Simmons are ready to start he’d be in the twilight of his career (the later of which I believe you mentioned). Aron Baynes would be probably be a better starter at centre in the long term.
As a New Zealander I loved both guys when they were on. Exum looked confident and controlled. His missed three was pray at the end of the shot clock I believe. Simmons got a steal and slam which absolutely silenced the crowd in NZ.
Can’t believe the Tall Blacks blew our lead though, despite the fact it’s basically our 2nd team. Vukona in foul trouble and Webster being too shot happy hurt us down the stretch.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 7:14pm #833838
  
  Suckerpunch
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  Agreed. Completely different game if you guys had a full line up. Add Kirk Penney and you don’t have to rely on Vukona to score that much
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 7:14pm #833732
  
  Suckerpunch
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  Agreed. Completely different game if you guys had a full line up. Add Kirk Penney and you don’t have to rely on Vukona to score that much
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 12:14am #833798
  
  rabidsnowman
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  I read this, and the only thought that came to mind was:
  Imagine if they tried to name a team here in the US the “Tall Blacks”. I can already see the media circus from here.
  Really puts things into perspective that Australia can have a team named that and nobody bats an eye.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 12:14am #833905
  
  rabidsnowman
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  I read this, and the only thought that came to mind was:
  Imagine if they tried to name a team here in the US the “Tall Blacks”. I can already see the media circus from here.
  Really puts things into perspective that Australia can have a team named that and nobody bats an eye.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 4:49am #833859
  
  AusBob
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  In limited minutes, Simmons played and settled himself into the game tempo quickly, especially at the end with the steal and break away dunk. Seemed to do it in great composure. People are all talking about Dante Exum, Simmons is going to also be a great prospect but with greater potential game effectiveness due to this 6-9 size and set shot shooting. Can not wait to see him play in next year Hope Summit.
  Aussie basketball on the rise, If Kyrie Irving somehow not make the US team…and ever wanted to start his own FIBA team, Australia can be a great place to start a legacy in Australia Basketball history. With the up coming talent of Exum, Simmons. Maker for the National team. Playing off guard alongside Patty Mills can be a scary sign for opposition. Moing Joe Ingles to the 3 will be optimized by Irving’s passing ability. He would bring additional leadership to the Boomers. Doubt it would happen, but with China losing to Chinese Taipei In the Asian Basketball Championships, who knows!
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 4:49am #833965
  
  AusBob
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  In limited minutes, Simmons played and settled himself into the game tempo quickly, especially at the end with the steal and break away dunk. Seemed to do it in great composure. People are all talking about Dante Exum, Simmons is going to also be a great prospect but with greater potential game effectiveness due to this 6-9 size and set shot shooting. Can not wait to see him play in next year Hope Summit.
  Aussie basketball on the rise, If Kyrie Irving somehow not make the US team…and ever wanted to start his own FIBA team, Australia can be a great place to start a legacy in Australia Basketball history. With the up coming talent of Exum, Simmons. Maker for the National team. Playing off guard alongside Patty Mills can be a scary sign for opposition. Moing Joe Ingles to the 3 will be optimized by Irving’s passing ability. He would bring additional leadership to the Boomers. Doubt it would happen, but with China losing to Chinese Taipei In the Asian Basketball Championships, who knows!
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Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 1:25am #833804

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Lol, Australia doesn’t have a team named that. New Zealand’s national team has that nickname which is related to their famous rugby counterpart the All Blacks. It has to do with their black jerseys, not anything to do with skin colour.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 7:16pm #834176
  
  rabidsnowman
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  I know it’s the jerseys. That’s the point. People here in the US are so caught up about race that if somebody named a team that, regardless of intent, would be jumped on eagerly by our media and turned into a race issue.
  You notice nobody has a problem with the Notre Dame Fightin Irish, even though it’s not only racist, it perpetuates a negative stereotype about Irish people? Yeah, makes you think, doesn’t it?
  I’m pointing out a problem with the US, not with a New Zealand basketball team.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 08/16/2013 - 5:04am #834407
    
    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Well first of all you said “Australia” had a team, so you didn’t seem to know it was New Zealand and not Australia. How was I to know you were familiar with the jerseys of the New Zealand national team while not knowing that they are a separate country from Australia?
    Second of all, I completely disagree that the media would jump all over a team named The Blacks if it had a completely different history and context behind it than race. Nobody has any problem with the Cleveland Browns…
    Funny that the people who always argue that the media (and the political left) makes everything a race issue are usually the first ones to make race an issue in the first place
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  - Posted on: Fri, 08/16/2013 - 5:04am #834300
    
    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Well first of all you said “Australia” had a team, so you didn’t seem to know it was New Zealand and not Australia. How was I to know you were familiar with the jerseys of the New Zealand national team while not knowing that they are a separate country from Australia?
    Second of all, I completely disagree that the media would jump all over a team named The Blacks if it had a completely different history and context behind it than race. Nobody has any problem with the Cleveland Browns…
    Funny that the people who always argue that the media (and the political left) makes everything a race issue are usually the first ones to make race an issue in the first place
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 7:16pm #834283
  
  rabidsnowman
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  I know it’s the jerseys. That’s the point. People here in the US are so caught up about race that if somebody named a team that, regardless of intent, would be jumped on eagerly by our media and turned into a race issue.
  You notice nobody has a problem with the Notre Dame Fightin Irish, even though it’s not only racist, it perpetuates a negative stereotype about Irish people? Yeah, makes you think, doesn’t it?
  I’m pointing out a problem with the US, not with a New Zealand basketball team.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 1:25am #833911

ItsVictorOladipo
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Lol, Australia doesn’t have a team named that. New Zealand’s national team has that nickname which is related to their famous rugby counterpart the All Blacks. It has to do with their black jerseys, not anything to do with skin colour.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 3:17am #833821

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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that Tall Blacks was some really racist name. Anyway, I think it’s really cool to see NBA level talent starting to come from literally all over the globe. Great to see Australia and New Zealand trying to break into the scene.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/15/2013 - 3:17am #833927

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I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that Tall Blacks was some really racist name. Anyway, I think it’s really cool to see NBA level talent starting to come from literally all over the globe. Great to see Australia and New Zealand trying to break into the scene.
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