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Draft night : what happens if…

Alex Len drafted FIRST ?

There’s a chance that Orlando select Trey Burke over McLemore ( they have Afflalo… ) and Noel ( Davis, Harrington , Nicholson , T.Harris ) and Porter ( Harris, Harkless )?

[CavFanPRParticipant]

If cavs pass on Noel, he’ll fall like a brick. The only team in the lottery that might take the risk is OKC at 12, since they don’t need him to perform right away.

I think the magic settle for McLemore.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

You really don’t think a team like Washington or Charlotte will snatch him up? That’s not much of a drop, considering how thin this draft is in terms of big name guys.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

You really don’t think a team like Washington or Charlotte will snatch him up? That’s not much of a drop, considering how thin this draft is in terms of big name guys.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Not really. Washington will probably take Bennett to please John Wall. Charlotte doesn’t need Noel with Biyombo on the roster. They go with Len/Zeller imo.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Not really. Washington will probably take Bennett to please John Wall. Charlotte doesn’t need Noel with Biyombo on the roster. They go with Len/Zeller imo.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

If cavs pass on Noel, he’ll fall like a brick. The only team in the lottery that might take the risk is OKC at 12, since they don’t need him to perform right away.

I think the magic settle for McLemore.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Again, why would they draft Alex Len when they have a HUGE whole at SF and Otto Porter is a better prospect than Alex Len? It makes no sense to me.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

We have a huge hole at C as well. Tyler Zeller is NOT a starter in this league and Len is a huge upgrade. Porter is not a better prospect than Len by any means. We can easily get a wing with our 19th pick and/or during free agency.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

We have a huge hole at C as well. Tyler Zeller is NOT a starter in this league and Len is a huge upgrade. Porter is not a better prospect than Len by any means. We can easily get a wing with our 19th pick and/or during free agency.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I’m going to say we have opposing views because I think Zeller is an NBA starter and Anderson Varejao (when healthy) is their starting center. I believe they have their current starter and their future starter whereas they have nothing at the SF position.

Not only that but while Otto Porter isn’t going to be a star, there aren’t many players that bring everything he brings. He has so many intangibles and leadership abilities that you won’t find with the 19th pick or during free agency. He’s a do-it-all glue guy and those don’t come very often. Hell, whenever those guys do come, whatever team has them sticks with them for over a long time (see Tayshaun Prince, Luol Deng, Nicolas Batum).

Worst case: Dorell Wright
Best case: Paul George
Most likely: Tayshaun Prince

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I’m going to say we have opposing views because I think Zeller is an NBA starter and Anderson Varejao (when healthy) is their starting center. I believe they have their current starter and their future starter whereas they have nothing at the SF position.

Not only that but while Otto Porter isn’t going to be a star, there aren’t many players that bring everything he brings. He has so many intangibles and leadership abilities that you won’t find with the 19th pick or during free agency. He’s a do-it-all glue guy and those don’t come very often. Hell, whenever those guys do come, whatever team has them sticks with them for over a long time (see Tayshaun Prince, Luol Deng, Nicolas Batum).

Worst case: Dorell Wright
Best case: Paul George
Most likely: Tayshaun Prince

[aztwulfParticipant]

I think Porter has about the least risk of anyone in the draft. You know EXACTLY what you will be getting, a guy with good size for the position, pretty decent shooter, rebounder, passer, and defender. He won’t need to have the ball in his hands to be effective. He is still just a pup, and isn’t a maintenance problem. He may never be an All-star, but I think he has an excellent chance of being a 10 year starter.

Since there is no clear cut, obvious number one pick, why not take a guy with no holes in his game, and that can contribute from day one?

[aztwulfParticipant]

I think Porter has about the least risk of anyone in the draft. You know EXACTLY what you will be getting, a guy with good size for the position, pretty decent shooter, rebounder, passer, and defender. He won’t need to have the ball in his hands to be effective. He is still just a pup, and isn’t a maintenance problem. He may never be an All-star, but I think he has an excellent chance of being a 10 year starter.

Since there is no clear cut, obvious number one pick, why not take a guy with no holes in his game, and that can contribute from day one?

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Iggy could go to Cleveland, but he’s 29 and will probably ask for more than the Cavs will give.
Oto’s worst case is Hedo Turkoglu ( I hate his last name -.- )
Otto’s best case is less-athletic Paul George, that fits.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Dude I don’t see the George comparison at all. Porter is a stiff and not strong enough for the NBA. George was athletic as hell when he entered the draft and was pretty strong. They’re two totally different players.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Dude I don’t see the George comparison at all. Porter is a stiff and not strong enough for the NBA. George was athletic as hell when he entered the draft and was pretty strong. They’re two totally different players.

[Hector_Reyes_8Participant]

Iggy could go to Cleveland, but he’s 29 and will probably ask for more than the Cavs will give.
Oto’s worst case is Hedo Turkoglu ( I hate his last name -.- )
Otto’s best case is less-athletic Paul George, that fits.

[DolanCareParticipant]

Porter is solid. Len is the better prospect. I wouldn’t hate it if the Cavs drafted Porter first, but draft wisdom says that you go for upside.

[DolanCareParticipant]

Porter is solid. Len is the better prospect. I wouldn’t hate it if the Cavs drafted Porter first, but draft wisdom says that you go for upside.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

But Len is ready for the NBA while Porter will take a while.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

But Len is ready for the NBA while Porter will take a while.

[wrectorParticipant]

No, you have it backwards.

[wrectorParticipant]

No, you have it backwards.

[aztwulfParticipant]

Porter will start for you from day one. You will get your moneys worth on that four year rookie contract. Len will spend year one, and maybe year two, playing token minutes. You will get two, maybe two and half years of production, for your four years of salary.

Also, foot problems with “bigs” scare the hell out of me. I am not saying that Len doesn’t have a a future, but I wouldn’t take him in the top 3 picks.

[aztwulfParticipant]

Porter will start for you from day one. You will get your moneys worth on that four year rookie contract. Len will spend year one, and maybe year two, playing token minutes. You will get two, maybe two and half years of production, for your four years of salary.

Also, foot problems with “bigs” scare the hell out of me. I am not saying that Len doesn’t have a a future, but I wouldn’t take him in the top 3 picks.

[wrectorParticipant]

Alex Len is the better prospect, higher ceiling. Porter fills an immediate need and can contribute right away, but doesn’t have as high a ceiling. That’s what everyone says anyway. Personally, I favor Porter a little more than Len but wouldn’t be upset if they picked either one. I don’t want Noel or McLemore.

[wrectorParticipant]

Alex Len is the better prospect, higher ceiling. Porter fills an immediate need and can contribute right away, but doesn’t have as high a ceiling. That’s what everyone says anyway. Personally, I favor Porter a little more than Len but wouldn’t be upset if they picked either one. I don’t want Noel or McLemore.

[aaucoachParticipant]

because otto porter is not worth a #1 pick by any stretch of the imagination.i agree that zeller can be an above average center,but len could be a starter out the gate and leave zeller to the reserve role he is suited for.plus in all likelihood cle will be right back in the lotto next year and their are much better wings in next years class

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Why is he not worthy?

Name another player in this draft as safe as Porter. Or another player in this draft class with less holes in his game than Porter.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Why is he not worthy?

Name another player in this draft as safe as Porter. Or another player in this draft class with less holes in his game than Porter.

[aaucoachParticipant]

because otto porter is not worth a #1 pick by any stretch of the imagination.i agree that zeller can be an above average center,but len could be a starter out the gate and leave zeller to the reserve role he is suited for.plus in all likelihood cle will be right back in the lotto next year and their are much better wings in next years class

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Again, why would they draft Alex Len when they have a HUGE whole at SF and Otto Porter is a better prospect than Alex Len? It makes no sense to me.

[aramboneParticipant]

if Noel will fall like a brick, it’s probably a sign that cleveland shouldn’t take him at number 1.

[aramboneParticipant]

if Noel will fall like a brick, it’s probably a sign that cleveland shouldn’t take him at number 1.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Exactly.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Exactly.

[aramboneParticipant]

Rice jr, Karasev, Giannis, or Snell at 19. Livio Charles, Snell, or Leslie at 31 or 33.
Cleveland is sitting pretty if they don’t panic. No superstar at SF, but a young deep roster on long cheap contracts.

No desperation next year for the center they knew they would need.

[aramboneParticipant]

Rice jr, Karasev, Giannis, or Snell at 19. Livio Charles, Snell, or Leslie at 31 or 33.
Cleveland is sitting pretty if they don’t panic. No superstar at SF, but a young deep roster on long cheap contracts.

No desperation next year for the center they knew they would need.

[HobbyOGParticipant]

Not a fan of Alex Len but the cavs should take him, cavs could get a decent SF at 19 like arambone said, you will have Rice Jr. there and he showed what he could do against grown men in the NBDL.

[HobbyOGParticipant]

Not a fan of Alex Len but the cavs should take him, cavs could get a decent SF at 19 like arambone said, you will have Rice Jr. there and he showed what he could do against grown men in the NBDL.

[PlatypusParticipant]

I could see Phoenix taking a chance on Noel. Yes they have Gortat, but there have been so many rumors of trading him. This way they can trade him at the trade deadline and Noel will be healthy by then. This also gives them a face of the franchise player which they havent had since Steve Nash. They can sign or trade for a 2 guard with Gortat and intentionally suck for Wiggins

[PlatypusParticipant]

I could see Phoenix taking a chance on Noel. Yes they have Gortat, but there have been so many rumors of trading him. This way they can trade him at the trade deadline and Noel will be healthy by then. This also gives them a face of the franchise player which they havent had since Steve Nash. They can sign or trade for a 2 guard with Gortat and intentionally suck for Wiggins

[aramboneParticipant]

If Cleveland could work out a reasonable extension for Varajao, they could just draft Porter, best available center at 19 as insurance for oft injured Varajao, and a pg and sg at 31 and 33.

They’d be a playoff team this year and very well set for the future.

Olynyk, Plumlee, Nogueira, Gobert, and Dieng. At least two of them will be there at 19. That’s the best value in this draft, good bigs in the late teens.

[aramboneParticipant]

If Cleveland could work out a reasonable extension for Varajao, they could just draft Porter, best available center at 19 as insurance for oft injured Varajao, and a pg and sg at 31 and 33.

They’d be a playoff team this year and very well set for the future.

Olynyk, Plumlee, Nogueira, Gobert, and Dieng. At least two of them will be there at 19. That’s the best value in this draft, good bigs in the late teens.

[WITNESS2014Participant]

I feel like Porter is the best fit and most nba ready player to contribute right away. I can also see him working on his 3pt shot and really become a good player for the Cavs and what they are trying to do. I can see them being a 7 or 8 seed next year with drafting Porter and bringing in a free agent this year too.

[WITNESS2014Participant]

I feel like Porter is the best fit and most nba ready player to contribute right away. I can also see him working on his 3pt shot and really become a good player for the Cavs and what they are trying to do. I can see them being a 7 or 8 seed next year with drafting Porter and bringing in a free agent this year too.

[HitsterParticipant]

I wonder if Chris Grant might try to combine all his other 2013 picks to trade up from 19 to get an SF, he could maybe get to 12 to 14 range with 19th, 31st and 33rd. Plus he has future first rounders due from Kings, Heat and Memphis.

It may be being creative but if they gave the Kings their first rounder back could the Cavs get up to 7th and maybe snap up Oladipo if they gave the Kings a package of 19th,31st and 33rd picks this year plus send the Kings the future first rounder back or eveb use CJ Miles’s $2.25 million team option or throw in a young piece outside of their main young core.

[wrectorParticipant]

Cavs can get 13th by trading 31&33 to Dallas and taking on Shawn Marion’s contract. Only if players Dallas love are off the board, though. Would be interesting to see where Cavs could land by packaging 13 and 19 if it were possible.

[wrectorParticipant]

Cavs can get 13th by trading 31&33 to Dallas and taking on Shawn Marion’s contract. Only if players Dallas love are off the board, though. Would be interesting to see where Cavs could land by packaging 13 and 19 if it were possible.

[HitsterParticipant]

I wonder if Chris Grant might try to combine all his other 2013 picks to trade up from 19 to get an SF, he could maybe get to 12 to 14 range with 19th, 31st and 33rd. Plus he has future first rounders due from Kings, Heat and Memphis.

It may be being creative but if they gave the Kings their first rounder back could the Cavs get up to 7th and maybe snap up Oladipo if they gave the Kings a package of 19th,31st and 33rd picks this year plus send the Kings the future first rounder back or eveb use CJ Miles’s $2.25 million team option or throw in a young piece outside of their main young core.

[jmarg25Participant]

If I was the Cavs, I would pick McLemore, and have Waiters as a sixth man, but its clear that Dan Gilbert invested a lot into him and he thinks he can be Dwyane Wade.

[jmarg25Participant]

If I was the Cavs, I would pick McLemore, and have Waiters as a sixth man, but its clear that Dan Gilbert invested a lot into him and he thinks he can be Dwyane Wade.

[AmiableBaller34Participant]

I remember last year a player who was “nba ready” and teams “knew what they were going to get.” His name was Thomas Robinson, and he didn’t look like an NBA player to me this year, let alone an NBA ready one. We have no idea how these players are going to translate to the NBA, and I’m glad the Cavs aren’t falling for media hype. Draft who you think is the best player, not who Rivals or ESPN or some dude on the internet who only watches a couple of games a year thinks is the better prospect.

If I was the Cavs I wouldn’t be to worried about Alex Lex. At worst you’re getting a rotation big, and as a fan of the Celtics I can tell you that’s just as hard to come by as it is to find a good SF. Talented bigmen are hard to come by, and that’s why you see them drafted so early because there isn’t a pantheon of all star bigs coming out of the draft every year.

SF is one of the easiest possisions to fill in the NBA, and I wouldn’t waist my first pick on a player who might jsut be a Tayshaun Prince. We’ve seen players like Paul George (10th pick), Kawhi Leonard (15th pick), and Jimmy Butler (30th pick) step it up big time in these playoffs, and none of them were considered top picks (Well to be fair, a lot of the people on this site loved George during that draft, so I will give everyone on this site credit for that). The point I’m trying to make is there are more wings out there then big men, so the Cavs should be patient, and look to see if someone like Tony Snell or Giannis is there at 19.

[AmiableBaller34Participant]

I remember last year a player who was “nba ready” and teams “knew what they were going to get.” His name was Thomas Robinson, and he didn’t look like an NBA player to me this year, let alone an NBA ready one. We have no idea how these players are going to translate to the NBA, and I’m glad the Cavs aren’t falling for media hype. Draft who you think is the best player, not who Rivals or ESPN or some dude on the internet who only watches a couple of games a year thinks is the better prospect.

If I was the Cavs I wouldn’t be to worried about Alex Lex. At worst you’re getting a rotation big, and as a fan of the Celtics I can tell you that’s just as hard to come by as it is to find a good SF. Talented bigmen are hard to come by, and that’s why you see them drafted so early because there isn’t a pantheon of all star bigs coming out of the draft every year.

SF is one of the easiest possisions to fill in the NBA, and I wouldn’t waist my first pick on a player who might jsut be a Tayshaun Prince. We’ve seen players like Paul George (10th pick), Kawhi Leonard (15th pick), and Jimmy Butler (30th pick) step it up big time in these playoffs, and none of them were considered top picks (Well to be fair, a lot of the people on this site loved George during that draft, so I will give everyone on this site credit for that). The point I’m trying to make is there are more wings out there then big men, so the Cavs should be patient, and look to see if someone like Tony Snell or Giannis is there at 19.

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