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- Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 10:54am #26116
White ChocolateParticipantWhat are some comparisons for Arizona standout power forward Derrick Williams?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:04am #495771
OhCanada-ParticipantBeasley seems like a common comparison but he seems to have more focus, fundimentals, and a better body. Williams is a really tweener thou, I can see his production being limited by his size. Will most likely end up being a good player on a bad team for his career like other tweeners Jamison, Beasley, Granger. Alot of tweeners struggle fitting into roles, unless he is extremely dominant and has a team create an offense around him he shoul tsruggle and I dont see that happening.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:04am #495818
OhCanada-ParticipantBeasley seems like a common comparison but he seems to have more focus, fundimentals, and a better body. Williams is a really tweener thou, I can see his production being limited by his size. Will most likely end up being a good player on a bad team for his career like other tweeners Jamison, Beasley, Granger. Alot of tweeners struggle fitting into roles, unless he is extremely dominant and has a team create an offense around him he shoul tsruggle and I dont see that happening.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:40am #495813
Malik-UniversalParticipantmore atheltic david west
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:40am #495860
Malik-UniversalParticipantmore atheltic david west
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:45am #495815
BKKnicksfanParticipantI watched a couple games, I would compare him to a less atheltic Amar’e Stoudemire. He has a improving jumper, he can get to the basket with a couple dribbles, he has some bounce. I think he’s best suited to be the power forward position rather then small forward.
I think the best three teams for him are: Milwaukee, Washington and Detroit. The Bucks would be the best fit because you have Jennings there and Bogut as more the low post target. Washington could use him with John Wall. Detroit would be nice because he could be the main post option and shooter, but with no point guard, it would probably hinder him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 11:45am #495862
BKKnicksfanParticipantI watched a couple games, I would compare him to a less atheltic Amar’e Stoudemire. He has a improving jumper, he can get to the basket with a couple dribbles, he has some bounce. I think he’s best suited to be the power forward position rather then small forward.
I think the best three teams for him are: Milwaukee, Washington and Detroit. The Bucks would be the best fit because you have Jennings there and Bogut as more the low post target. Washington could use him with John Wall. Detroit would be nice because he could be the main post option and shooter, but with no point guard, it would probably hinder him.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:00pm #495881
Mr. 19134ParticipantDerrick Williams is really impressive, and every game i get to see him play in he seems to be even better. I watched that whole Washington game and I gotta say Arizona don’t have any guards that can get him the ball. At the end of the game when Arizona needed points they isoed Williams everytime and there was no stopping him. Also he is a better rebounder then his numbers suggest, if the team needs a rebound he gets it. I could only imagine what his numbers would look like if he had a good PG that could get him the ball in the right spot, instead of Williams getting there himself often with the ball.
Mike Beasley is exactly who he plays like except Beasley had a more polished perimeter skills, as far as athleticism they are about equal Beasley being a little stronger with better body control and superior leaping ability. But Williams is super quick and strong. Making him a matchup nightmater with everybody he plays against. I do think he can be a full time Small Forward too like Beasley this year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:00pm #495833
Mr. 19134ParticipantDerrick Williams is really impressive, and every game i get to see him play in he seems to be even better. I watched that whole Washington game and I gotta say Arizona don’t have any guards that can get him the ball. At the end of the game when Arizona needed points they isoed Williams everytime and there was no stopping him. Also he is a better rebounder then his numbers suggest, if the team needs a rebound he gets it. I could only imagine what his numbers would look like if he had a good PG that could get him the ball in the right spot, instead of Williams getting there himself often with the ball.
Mike Beasley is exactly who he plays like except Beasley had a more polished perimeter skills, as far as athleticism they are about equal Beasley being a little stronger with better body control and superior leaping ability. But Williams is super quick and strong. Making him a matchup nightmater with everybody he plays against. I do think he can be a full time Small Forward too like Beasley this year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:03pm #495883
flyboyParticipantPeople need to actually come to some consensus as to his position in the NBA. I think he’s similar to Beasley in that he’s going to play the 3 at the next level. I don’t see him playing the 4 as a starter for most teams. I think he’s going to struggle early like Beasley struggles defensively at the 3 position, but not as much. As for comparisons, it’s hard to find a perfect fit because he’s got a mix of many different things going on, with his inside-outside game. He’s a conglomeration of several players. What I do know is that he’s got a lot of talent and I see him being a very good NBA player offensively.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:03pm #495835
flyboyParticipantPeople need to actually come to some consensus as to his position in the NBA. I think he’s similar to Beasley in that he’s going to play the 3 at the next level. I don’t see him playing the 4 as a starter for most teams. I think he’s going to struggle early like Beasley struggles defensively at the 3 position, but not as much. As for comparisons, it’s hard to find a perfect fit because he’s got a mix of many different things going on, with his inside-outside game. He’s a conglomeration of several players. What I do know is that he’s got a lot of talent and I see him being a very good NBA player offensively.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:12pm #495891
HitsterParticipantThis site uses Michael Beasley and David West as comparisons, I’d say that Williams is more like a stronger version of Beasley if he is seen more as an SF as David West has always played PF and has made All Star games at that position.
I like the Bucks or Washington fit for him, Detroit have a few too many SF/PF’s to take on another one. Cleveland could be an option where he could learn from Jamieson perhaps and the Nets could look at him as he’d give them good size at SF and help with the rebounding that Brook Lopez lacks.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:12pm #495843
HitsterParticipantThis site uses Michael Beasley and David West as comparisons, I’d say that Williams is more like a stronger version of Beasley if he is seen more as an SF as David West has always played PF and has made All Star games at that position.
I like the Bucks or Washington fit for him, Detroit have a few too many SF/PF’s to take on another one. Cleveland could be an option where he could learn from Jamieson perhaps and the Nets could look at him as he’d give them good size at SF and help with the rebounding that Brook Lopez lacks.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:34pm #495909
bennydabullParticipantSomeone on here said LaPhonso Ellis once, and I liked that one.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 12:34pm #495861
bennydabullParticipantSomeone on here said LaPhonso Ellis once, and I liked that one.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:08pm #495890
ilike.panochasParticipantThat was actually me who made that comparison to Laphonso. Their very similar.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:08pm #495940
ilike.panochasParticipantThat was actually me who made that comparison to Laphonso. Their very similar.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:40pm #495941
Mr. 19134ParticipantI don’t think he’s stronger then Beasley where are you guys getting that idea from? I think Beasley got a way better frame then Williams with stronger shoulders. Beasley did tone down and loose weight this year because he knew he was going to play small forward exclusively. If a team wanted Beasley to start at PF he could put on a lot of weight with his frame and not lose mobility, Beasley’s frame looks like he could hold a good 250.
But Williams is young for his class he’s the same age as a lot of the freshman because he’s still 19 and don’t turn 20 til after the draft so he got a lot of room for growth. Williams is extremely focused and watching him play it’s easy to tell that he is going to be a great professional and takes the game very serious. This is why he is going to be a top 5 pick because of his skill set, and the maturity he has for his age, to go along with his production.
I almost forgot that when I was watching the Washington game another player that ran thru my head was a young Jamison I think they compare very favorably.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:40pm #495992
Mr. 19134ParticipantI don’t think he’s stronger then Beasley where are you guys getting that idea from? I think Beasley got a way better frame then Williams with stronger shoulders. Beasley did tone down and loose weight this year because he knew he was going to play small forward exclusively. If a team wanted Beasley to start at PF he could put on a lot of weight with his frame and not lose mobility, Beasley’s frame looks like he could hold a good 250.
But Williams is young for his class he’s the same age as a lot of the freshman because he’s still 19 and don’t turn 20 til after the draft so he got a lot of room for growth. Williams is extremely focused and watching him play it’s easy to tell that he is going to be a great professional and takes the game very serious. This is why he is going to be a top 5 pick because of his skill set, and the maturity he has for his age, to go along with his production.
I almost forgot that when I was watching the Washington game another player that ran thru my head was a young Jamison I think they compare very favorably.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:55pm #495963
The lake show2I’d have to say Al Harrington or Ellis. I can’t really say Beasley because he isn’t as gifted as Beasley ( Beasley was better as a freshman then Williams is right now)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 1:55pm #496014
The lake show2I’d have to say Al Harrington or Ellis. I can’t really say Beasley because he isn’t as gifted as Beasley ( Beasley was better as a freshman then Williams is right now)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:01pm #495976
flyboyParticipantWilliams I think has better shooting ability, which is a big difference. Williams is shooting like 65% from the three point line and very good numbers with the mid-range jumper. I think he’ll be more efficient offensively than Ellis was.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:01pm #496026
flyboyParticipantWilliams I think has better shooting ability, which is a big difference. Williams is shooting like 65% from the three point line and very good numbers with the mid-range jumper. I think he’ll be more efficient offensively than Ellis was.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:13pm #495995
The lake show2The college Three pointer is a deep jumper in the NBA which Beasley is very good at. Beasley was also a much better rebounder
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:13pm #496045
The lake show2The college Three pointer is a deep jumper in the NBA which Beasley is very good at. Beasley was also a much better rebounder
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:22pm #496017
llperezbeasley was better in college, but one huge differnec between the two is beasley is a ball stopper who has to pound the ball on offense to get his while dwill is one of the most unslefish players in america who plays withiin the flow of the offense at all times and is a very willing passer. Will dwill be better then beasley in the pros? I have no idea, but there is a big differnece between them and how they get their points. DWill could get 18 wiothout any plays dranw up for him, just playing the lanes and getting to the open spots and finishing as consistently as he does. He rarely takes more then 2 dribbles, its either catch and score or a quick move by his man. Otherwise he swings it.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:22pm #496068
llperezbeasley was better in college, but one huge differnec between the two is beasley is a ball stopper who has to pound the ball on offense to get his while dwill is one of the most unslefish players in america who plays withiin the flow of the offense at all times and is a very willing passer. Will dwill be better then beasley in the pros? I have no idea, but there is a big differnece between them and how they get their points. DWill could get 18 wiothout any plays dranw up for him, just playing the lanes and getting to the open spots and finishing as consistently as he does. He rarely takes more then 2 dribbles, its either catch and score or a quick move by his man. Otherwise he swings it.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:26pm #496025
The lake show2Beasley wasn’t a ball stopper in college though. He actually didn’t get the ball enough. His guards used to take ill advised shots when he clearly should have gotten the ball. They are clearly different players with different skills but Beasley was clearly better as a college player. Since Williams hasn’t played a pro game yet its hard to say hat he will become as a pro. It all depends on what team picks him. Neither were assist/set up teammate guys in college either
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:26pm #496075
The lake show2Beasley wasn’t a ball stopper in college though. He actually didn’t get the ball enough. His guards used to take ill advised shots when he clearly should have gotten the ball. They are clearly different players with different skills but Beasley was clearly better as a college player. Since Williams hasn’t played a pro game yet its hard to say hat he will become as a pro. It all depends on what team picks him. Neither were assist/set up teammate guys in college either
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:31pm #496031
llperezi agree beasley was better in college and that we have no idea who will be better in the pros. But beasley shot on 36% of possesions for k-state while dwill shoots on 24% of possesions for arizona. And its very clear beasley is a ball stopper in th epros who needs to have the ball to be effective on offense. DWill is more like a cedric ceballos type who will get baskets without dominating the ball.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/21/2011 - 2:31pm #496081
llperezi agree beasley was better in college and that we have no idea who will be better in the pros. But beasley shot on 36% of possesions for k-state while dwill shoots on 24% of possesions for arizona. And its very clear beasley is a ball stopper in th epros who needs to have the ball to be effective on offense. DWill is more like a cedric ceballos type who will get baskets without dominating the ball.
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