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- Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 8:45am #55181
asimpsonxdParticipantSo i posted a trade similar the other day and it wasnt that well recieved i think partly because i included Reggie Jackson. Check this one out and let me know what you guys think!!
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Chicago trades: Taj Gibson, Carlos Boozer (exp.), Tony Snell, Ronnie Brewer (non-guaranteed), Lou Amundsun (non-guaranteed), Bulls’ 2014 1st. rd. draft pick (#19), Sacramento’s 2015 1st. rd. draft pick (top 10 protected through 2017), Bull’s 2016 1st. rd. pick, and Portland’s 2015 & 2016 2nd rd. draft picks
New York trades: Carmelo Anthony (S&T 4 year 72 mil), Iman Shumpert, Ray Felton(fat), and Andrea Bargnani
Los Angeles trades: Pau Gasol (3 year 36 million) and Lakers’ 2014 1st rd. draft pick (#6)
Philadelphia trades: Thaddeus Young, Philadelphia’s 2014 1st rd. draft pick (#10 via NOLA), Philadelphia’s 2014 2nd rd. pick (#32), and Philadelphia’s 2014 2nd rd. pick (#39 via CLE)
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Chicago receives: Carmelo Anthony (S&T 4 year 72 mil), Iman Shumpert, Ray Felton, and Philadelphia’s 2014 2nd rd. pick (#32)
New York receives: Thaddeus Young, Pau Gasol (3 year 36 million), Ronnie Brewer (non-guaranteed), Lou Amundsun (non-guaranteed), Bulls’ 2014 1st. rd. draft pick (#19), Bull’s 2016 1st. rd. pick, and Sacramento’s 2015 1st. rd. draft pick (top 10 protected through 2017)
Los Angeles receives: Taj Gibson, Carlos Boozer (exp.), and Philadelphia’s 2014 1st rd. draft pick (#10 via NOLA), and Philadelphia’s 2014 2nd rd. pick (#39 via CLE)
Philadelphia receives: Tony Snell, Andrea Bargnani, Lakers’ 2014 1st rd. draft pick (#6), and Portland’s 2015 & 2016 2nd rd. draft picks
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Why New York does it: Gets something for Anthony while they can. They get 2 players who would work well in a triangle offense and a nice 1st round pick in this years draft and future firsts. They also shed bad contracts of Andrea Bargnani and Ray Felton – big move for the future. Non guarantee contracts are waived. Start the rebuild while not having to be as completely terrible as Philly or Milwaukee.
Why Los Angeles does it: They tried to get Taj Gibson prior to the deadline. Carlos Boozer shares the same agent as Kobe so this would be finagled. They are going big on Kevin Love in 15 so boozer will be off the books by then (if not traded at the 2014-15 deadline). They were going to lose Pau anyways (not a fit) so it’s really not an issue with him. They trade down to number 10 because the game changing players they want (Exum & Randle) will not be there at 6.
Why Philadelphia does it: Get a good rookie in Tony Snell and are able to absorb Bargnani easily because of their low payroll. Most importantly they get a move up in the draft (would cost picks to do so) to select the best available player and future second round picks to be used as trade chips.
Why Chicago does it: Get the #1 scoring option they need in Melo. In order for this to work they trade Gibson and subsequently make room for Nikola Mirotic to come over @ 4 years 28 mil.
New York Roster:
Draft #19: Elfrid Payton (PG) – PG with good size, speed, and overall athleticism. Good defender because of this gets lots of steals. Good penetrator.
PG: E. Payton/ P. Prigoni/ / T. Murry
SG: T. Hardaway/ JR Smith/ S. Brown
SF: T. Young/ JR Smith/ T. Hardaway
PF: P.Gasol/ A. Stoudemire/ T. Young
C: T. Chandler/ P. Gasol/ J. Tyler
Approximate payroll $72 million.
Los Angeles Roster:
Draft #10: Tyler Ennis (PG) – Best pass first PG would mesh very well with high volume scorer’s Kobe and in the future K. Love?
Draft #39: LaQuinton Ross (SF) – Never lived up to his hype at OSU but could turn out to be a good get here
PG: T. Ennis/ S. Nash/ K. Marshall
SG: K. Bryant/ W. Johnson
SF: N. Young/ L. Ross/ FA
PF: T. Gibson/ C. Boozer
C: J. Hill/ R. Sacre
Approximate payroll $68 million.
Philadelphia roster:
Draft #2- Jabari Parker (SF) – most nba ready in draft and a future all star
Draft #6 – Noah Vonleh (PF) – perfect complement to nerlens noel. Young Chris Bosh-like player
Draft # 47 – Jabari Brown (SG) – depth a SG
Draft # 52 – Damien Inglis (SF) – Draft and stash player if pick is kept.
Draft # 55 – Deandre Kane (PG) – backup PG if pick is kept.
PG: MCW/ T. Wroten/ D. Kane
SG: T. Wroten/ T. Snell/ J. Brown/ E. Williams
SF: J. Parker/ H. Thompson/ J. Richardson
PF: N. Vonleh/ N. Noel/ B. Mullens
C: N. Noel/ A. Bargnani/ H. Sims
Approximate payroll $45 million
Chicago roster:
Draft #16 – Adreian Payne (PF) – athletic stretch PF who can defend as well
Draft #32 – Jordan Adams (SG) – good scorer but not a great athlete
Draft #49 – James McAdoo (PF) – good defender and rebounder
PG: D. Rose/ R. Felton/ K. Hinrich
SG: J. Butler/ J. Freddette/ J. Adams
SF: C. Anthony/ M. Dunleavy
PF: N. Mirotic/ A. Payne/ J. McAdoo
C: J. Noah/ G. Smith
Approximate payroll $70 million.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 8:58am #895754
machu46ParticipantI appreciate the effort that it took to compile that whole thing, but I think it’s far more likely that Chicago amnesties Boozer, moves Gibson, and signs Melo outright while keeping all of those draft picks.
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:08am #895765
asimpsonxdParticipantReinsdorf is a pretty cheap owner and there are plenty of reports (like the ones today on ESPN if you have insider) that they will try very hard to trade him.
no one wants to pay someone 17 million to play for your rival
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:08am #895882
asimpsonxdParticipantReinsdorf is a pretty cheap owner and there are plenty of reports (like the ones today on ESPN if you have insider) that they will try very hard to trade him.
no one wants to pay someone 17 million to play for your rival
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 8:58am #895870
machu46ParticipantI appreciate the effort that it took to compile that whole thing, but I think it’s far more likely that Chicago amnesties Boozer, moves Gibson, and signs Melo outright while keeping all of those draft picks.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:05am #895762
BasketballGuru24ParticipantLakers would never do this ! lets consider the fact they’re just in play for carmelo as is the bulls. They wouldn’t make it easier for them by partaking in the trade.
Also kobe wouldn’t allow the organization to trade gasol for nothing less than a star or a equivalent player. Boozer provides struggling defense, and taj gibson might be a nice role player but we might have already seen his ceiling.
Theres no way they lose that top 6 pick for nothing as well. Packaging both the 6th and gasol involves a star in their eyes
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:06am #895763
asimpsonxdParticipantBut they arent in play for a trade. The thing about S&T’s are that they basically have chosen what team they want already…
this scenario Lakers lose out. Currently only NY, Chicago, and Houston are repordedly interesting to Melo
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:06am #895880
asimpsonxdParticipantBut they arent in play for a trade. The thing about S&T’s are that they basically have chosen what team they want already…
this scenario Lakers lose out. Currently only NY, Chicago, and Houston are repordedly interesting to Melo
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:05am #895878
BasketballGuru24ParticipantLakers would never do this ! lets consider the fact they’re just in play for carmelo as is the bulls. They wouldn’t make it easier for them by partaking in the trade.
Also kobe wouldn’t allow the organization to trade gasol for nothing less than a star or a equivalent player. Boozer provides struggling defense, and taj gibson might be a nice role player but we might have already seen his ceiling.
Theres no way they lose that top 6 pick for nothing as well. Packaging both the 6th and gasol involves a star in their eyes
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:25am #895767
Magic JordanParticipantSO the Lakers give up their 6th pick to take on Boozer? And Gibson? Two players who play the same position and then you future state their intentions are to sign Kevin Love, who also plays the same position as Gibson who will still be under contract?
The only part I am struggling with is figuring out which team you are a fan of? Too many moving parts.
How about the Bulls package one of their 1st rounders with Boozer and send them to the Lakers who can absorb the Boozer contract without sending anything out in return? If you suggest that the Lakers need to include something to sweeten the deal than you are sadly mistaking.
I propose the same for Houston, minus the first rounder. Sending Asik and or Lin to the Lakers for nothing but a salary dump. Both of these teams will need to move players without taking on contracts if they really intend to make a move for Melo. The Lakers need to take the opportunity to capitalize on their cap room, since there are no free agents that should fit in their long term plans.
I see a lot of other Laker fans clamoring for offers to Deng, or Monroe (who we would have to over pay for) and if you can swing one of the above deals it fields just as competitive of a team for next season without having to sacrafice future cap space as all players involved are expiring.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 9:25am #895884
Magic JordanParticipantSO the Lakers give up their 6th pick to take on Boozer? And Gibson? Two players who play the same position and then you future state their intentions are to sign Kevin Love, who also plays the same position as Gibson who will still be under contract?
The only part I am struggling with is figuring out which team you are a fan of? Too many moving parts.
How about the Bulls package one of their 1st rounders with Boozer and send them to the Lakers who can absorb the Boozer contract without sending anything out in return? If you suggest that the Lakers need to include something to sweeten the deal than you are sadly mistaking.
I propose the same for Houston, minus the first rounder. Sending Asik and or Lin to the Lakers for nothing but a salary dump. Both of these teams will need to move players without taking on contracts if they really intend to make a move for Melo. The Lakers need to take the opportunity to capitalize on their cap room, since there are no free agents that should fit in their long term plans.
I see a lot of other Laker fans clamoring for offers to Deng, or Monroe (who we would have to over pay for) and if you can swing one of the above deals it fields just as competitive of a team for next season without having to sacrafice future cap space as all players involved are expiring.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:45am #895806
PrettyBoyPeeWeeParticipantMy 6ers wouldn’t want no part of Andrea Bargnani
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:45am #895922
PrettyBoyPeeWeeParticipantMy 6ers wouldn’t want no part of Andrea Bargnani
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 11:00am #895810
hbomb3300ParticipantI agree that the Lakers are kind of getting screwed here. I think you can find a way to just cut them out of the equation. Overall though a very complex, well thought out trade.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 11:00am #895926
hbomb3300ParticipantI agree that the Lakers are kind of getting screwed here. I think you can find a way to just cut them out of the equation. Overall though a very complex, well thought out trade.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:57pm #895850
Mad MaxParticipantYea, way too many parts for this trade to happen
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:57pm #895966
Mad MaxParticipantYea, way too many parts for this trade to happen
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 1:27pm #895863
HomerKangParticipantThis trade looks way too complicated to happen. But, if they dare to do it, I would favor it in a heartbeat. From my team’s POV, having Noah Vonleh replace Thad is highly tempting.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 1:27pm #895980
HomerKangParticipantThis trade looks way too complicated to happen. But, if they dare to do it, I would favor it in a heartbeat. From my team’s POV, having Noah Vonleh replace Thad is highly tempting.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 2:49pm #895875
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantRaymond Felton.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 2:49pm #895992
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantRaymond Felton.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 2:51pm #895877
Sotos14ParticipantTeams that S&T a player are not allowed to trade away other assets via new CBA so NY cannot trade other players in same deal they S&T Melo
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 2:51pm #895994
Sotos14ParticipantTeams that S&T a player are not allowed to trade away other assets via new CBA so NY cannot trade other players in same deal they S&T Melo
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 4:24pm #896032
ColdCutsParticipantLAKER HATER
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 4:24pm #895915
ColdCutsParticipantLAKER HATER
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 4:41pm #896042
DaGuywhodidurmaParticipantWhat if the lakers(who are in a semi rebuilding situation) just absorbed boozer into their cap space in exchange for Chicago 2 first rounders instead?
Chicago would please it’s owner and would get the financial flexibility to go after melo. And the lakers would get 2 more young pieces to add to an old roster with very little youth with upside.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 4:41pm #895925
DaGuywhodidurmaParticipantWhat if the lakers(who are in a semi rebuilding situation) just absorbed boozer into their cap space in exchange for Chicago 2 first rounders instead?
Chicago would please it’s owner and would get the financial flexibility to go after melo. And the lakers would get 2 more young pieces to add to an old roster with very little youth with upside.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:05pm #896083
XYRYXParticipantNice effort but is it true the Knicks can’t do sign and trade deals because they are over the tax?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/30/2014 - 10:05pm #896200
XYRYXParticipantNice effort but is it true the Knicks can’t do sign and trade deals because they are over the tax?
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