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- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 4:35pm #49875
Bigstinky34ParticipantIf Milwaukee can pull off that rumored Ilyasova for the 3rd pick trade that would be the first dominoe in the new Milwaukee Bucks offseason. For that deal to work the Bucks probably have to add a player like Udoh or Mbah-Moute and maybe the 15th pich while taking back Okafor or Nene. My guess is the Wizards rather keep Nene. So this is what I think could happen, Ilyasova, Udoh, and #15 for Okafor and #3. I’ve also heard the Bucks may be offering the $2mil trade option and a future pick to Dallas for #13. So at 3 I think they would take McClemore or Oladipo and at 13 I think they would take Michael Carter-Williams. Then if Monta Ellis resigns you have a nice guard rotation. From what I hear the main free agent target is Josh Smith. I think he would sign for about $14mil here. If we got those guards I’d sign and trade Jennings for a 1st round pick in next years draft. The starting lineup next year could be Ellis(if he resigns) or MCW, McClemore or Oladipo, Josh Smith, John Henson and Larry sanders. Then fill the bench with players like Korver and Devin Harris and probably a SF or PF in the second round.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 4:44pm #793385
FutureNBAGMParticipantBucks should also consider extending Larry Sanders this summer too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 4:44pm #793309
FutureNBAGMParticipantBucks should also consider extending Larry Sanders this summer too.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 6:35pm #793356
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantI think they may have to let the next season play out before resigning Sanders. His stock can’t really go up from where its at right now. His emerging offense and defensive presence already has him worth somewhere between 12 and max money. The only fear the Bucks should have is if he plays himself into a guy where the 5 year post rookie extension. That should be reserved for superstars but in the analytic community he is a superstar.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 7:35am #793619
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIf by analytic community, you mean people who don’t watch basketball or know the difference between winning basketball and stat padding, then maybe. Otherwise, people can see the train wreck the Bucks became over the course of the season and the role Sanders played in it. They bet on Sanders when dealing Bogut for Ellis, and it was a bad bet. They were bad defensively, got their coach fired, and got consistently worse as the season went on. The best thing they can do is deal him while the same fools who thought DeAndre Jordan and JaVale McGee were good think too highly of Sanders.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 7:35am #793544
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIf by analytic community, you mean people who don’t watch basketball or know the difference between winning basketball and stat padding, then maybe. Otherwise, people can see the train wreck the Bucks became over the course of the season and the role Sanders played in it. They bet on Sanders when dealing Bogut for Ellis, and it was a bad bet. They were bad defensively, got their coach fired, and got consistently worse as the season went on. The best thing they can do is deal him while the same fools who thought DeAndre Jordan and JaVale McGee were good think too highly of Sanders.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 6:35pm #793431
TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantI think they may have to let the next season play out before resigning Sanders. His stock can’t really go up from where its at right now. His emerging offense and defensive presence already has him worth somewhere between 12 and max money. The only fear the Bucks should have is if he plays himself into a guy where the 5 year post rookie extension. That should be reserved for superstars but in the analytic community he is a superstar.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 6:33pm #793354
sheltwon3ParticipantIf Bucks pull this off, they could definitely change the balance in the East. It will be interesting what team is able to make the moves to get them into the playoffs/Finals hump.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 6:33pm #793429
sheltwon3ParticipantIf Bucks pull this off, they could definitely change the balance in the East. It will be interesting what team is able to make the moves to get them into the playoffs/Finals hump.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 7:48pm #793378
db24kb24ParticipantIf my name was John Hammond I would gut the entire roster w/ the exception of Sanders and Henson. I can’t legitimately see any other current players in their successful (serious championship contention) future, which is at least 5 seasons away.
Given the opportunity, no top free agents will choose to sign to Milwaukee. Thus, their only chance at success (serious championship contention) is to build through the draft. This years draft is ideal for them since a lot of teams are willing to trade their picks. And because there is no franchise resurrecting talent they’ll be in the lottery again next season. If their picks work out, they’ll have amassed some young talent to build. If not it’s back to the lottery for more young talent which is actually better for the club long term, as opposed to assembling role players (Gooden, Dunleavy, Ellis, Jennings, Dalembert, Reddick, a moute, Daniels) that gets ousted quickly in the first round.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:37pm #793406
jjbutler73ParticipantWhich they are not. Beyond that, for everyone, they have no chance to sign Josh Smith or Kyle Korver and if they draft McLemore or Oladipo, they have no chance of resigning J.J. Redick. They need to just try to resign their own guys, land a decent player or 2 in the draft, and hope Larry Drew is a better coach than Skiles/Boylan. The east is weak, they can easily move up.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 3:04am #793434
Velvet HoopParticipantI like how you tell the poster what he means. Um, no. Actually “in the lottery again” does not imply they are in the lottery this season. I read it to mean that they have simply spent a lot of time there and normally tend to be there. If Charlotte were to miss the lottery next season and then be in the lottery again in 2015, it would definitely make sense to say that they are in the lottery again. That is just common sense dude. But just to point it out with facts, here are the last several drafts for Milwaukee.
2013: Missed – 15th pick
2012: Lottery – 14
2011: Lottery – 10
2010: Missed – 15th pick
2009: Lottery – 10
2008: Lottery – 8
2007: Lottery – 6
2006: Missed – No first round pick. Finished as 8th seed in East
2005: Lottery: 1So if you are scoring at home, 6 out of the last 9 years the Bucks have had a lottery pick. The 3 seasons they did not, they were the last team to sneak into the playoffs as an 8 seed. Their average pick number during this time span is 9. I’d say this qualifies as “being in the lottery again”. Also, you have the 15th pick this year and there are 14 picks in the lottery. Are you really saying there is a major difference between picking at 14 and 15? Just because 14 has the word lottery associated with it and 15 does not?
For the last 10 years the Bucks have drafted no lower than 15th. Hooray! You just missed the lottery every few years! Now that is something to celebrate.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 10:53am #793680
db24kb24Participant“So if you are scoring at home”,,, hilarious. And thanks for the “in the lottery again” clarification.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 10:53am #793755
db24kb24Participant“So if you are scoring at home”,,, hilarious. And thanks for the “in the lottery again” clarification.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 3:04am #793510
Velvet HoopParticipantI like how you tell the poster what he means. Um, no. Actually “in the lottery again” does not imply they are in the lottery this season. I read it to mean that they have simply spent a lot of time there and normally tend to be there. If Charlotte were to miss the lottery next season and then be in the lottery again in 2015, it would definitely make sense to say that they are in the lottery again. That is just common sense dude. But just to point it out with facts, here are the last several drafts for Milwaukee.
2013: Missed – 15th pick
2012: Lottery – 14
2011: Lottery – 10
2010: Missed – 15th pick
2009: Lottery – 10
2008: Lottery – 8
2007: Lottery – 6
2006: Missed – No first round pick. Finished as 8th seed in East
2005: Lottery: 1So if you are scoring at home, 6 out of the last 9 years the Bucks have had a lottery pick. The 3 seasons they did not, they were the last team to sneak into the playoffs as an 8 seed. Their average pick number during this time span is 9. I’d say this qualifies as “being in the lottery again”. Also, you have the 15th pick this year and there are 14 picks in the lottery. Are you really saying there is a major difference between picking at 14 and 15? Just because 14 has the word lottery associated with it and 15 does not?
For the last 10 years the Bucks have drafted no lower than 15th. Hooray! You just missed the lottery every few years! Now that is something to celebrate.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 1:38pm #793859
Bigstinky34ParticipantThe Bucks have a great shot at Smith and Korver. Did you forget Milwaukees new head coach was their coach in Atlanta. And at the trade deadline when Milwaukee almost traded for Smith he said he’d be open to signing an extension here. I think that people forget that money talks and the Bucks will have a lot of it…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 1:38pm #793785
Bigstinky34ParticipantThe Bucks have a great shot at Smith and Korver. Did you forget Milwaukees new head coach was their coach in Atlanta. And at the trade deadline when Milwaukee almost traded for Smith he said he’d be open to signing an extension here. I think that people forget that money talks and the Bucks will have a lot of it…
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 11:37pm #793481
jjbutler73ParticipantWhich they are not. Beyond that, for everyone, they have no chance to sign Josh Smith or Kyle Korver and if they draft McLemore or Oladipo, they have no chance of resigning J.J. Redick. They need to just try to resign their own guys, land a decent player or 2 in the draft, and hope Larry Drew is a better coach than Skiles/Boylan. The east is weak, they can easily move up.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2013 - 7:48pm #793453
db24kb24ParticipantIf my name was John Hammond I would gut the entire roster w/ the exception of Sanders and Henson. I can’t legitimately see any other current players in their successful (serious championship contention) future, which is at least 5 seasons away.
Given the opportunity, no top free agents will choose to sign to Milwaukee. Thus, their only chance at success (serious championship contention) is to build through the draft. This years draft is ideal for them since a lot of teams are willing to trade their picks. And because there is no franchise resurrecting talent they’ll be in the lottery again next season. If their picks work out, they’ll have amassed some young talent to build. If not it’s back to the lottery for more young talent which is actually better for the club long term, as opposed to assembling role players (Gooden, Dunleavy, Ellis, Jennings, Dalembert, Reddick, a moute, Daniels) that gets ousted quickly in the first round.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 5:08am #793492
OhCanada-ParticipantI think Olynyk would be a perfect fit beside Sanders and Henson. They completely hide bid weaknesses. If they make that Ilyasova trade and obtain the Mavs 13 having Oladipo, and Olynyk wouldn’t be bad.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 5:08am #793567
OhCanada-ParticipantI think Olynyk would be a perfect fit beside Sanders and Henson. They completely hide bid weaknesses. If they make that Ilyasova trade and obtain the Mavs 13 having Oladipo, and Olynyk wouldn’t be bad.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 5:12am #793494
OhCanada-ParticipantLmao jjbutler thinks like a gm trying desperately to keep his job. Lets just draft for positional need and overpay role players to long term franchise crippling contracts!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2013 - 5:12am #793569
OhCanada-ParticipantLmao jjbutler thinks like a gm trying desperately to keep his job. Lets just draft for positional need and overpay role players to long term franchise crippling contracts!
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