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  • #50004
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    fliptonn
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    Humphries expiring contract finally has some trade weight to it. Everyone always gets negged for trade ideas but let me know what you guys think. Please read the whole thing.

    Humphries & 2014 1st rd pick – for – Varajao & CJ Miles

    For Brooklyn.
    They get a quality return for the nightmare that has been Humphries. Varajao and Miles are exactly what this team needs. They bring speed, depth, rebounding and outside shooting to a team that lacks all of the above. No brainer.

    G – D Will
    G – Miles
    F – Johnson
    F – Varajao
    C – Lopez
    6 – Wallace (costs a lot but would be great off the bench)
    7 – Brooks
    8 – Dieng (draft)
    9 – Watson

    For Cleveland.
    So the loss isn’t terrible for them. They’re not a playoff team right now and they know it. But they tried to sign Humphries last year, maybe they think they could still use him. Also, they would replace Varajao and Miles with their two draft picks. Most likely Noel and a wing (Muhammad, Snell, Sergey, Franklin, Crabbe, Bullock). This leaves them with depth on the wing with Waiters, Gee and the pick, and it leaves them depth on their front court with Thompson, Humphries, Noel, and Zeller. But the main reason they do it is to clear up cap space. They clears them up to go after a big time free agent in 2014. Wishful thinking could have Dan Guilbert salivating at the thought of bringing LeBron back. They would have Kyrie, Waiters, Noel, Zeller, and the Nets 2014 pick to build around which may be able to attract someone like LeBron, Melo, Paul George, or Rudy Gay who are all free agents. Add to the fact that if the Cavs suck again this year they could potentially get a top 5 pick in 2014 which we all know how valuable that is.

    2014 lineup
    G – Kyrie
    G – Waiters
    F – Lebron, Melo, George, Gay
    F – 2014 pick (Wiggins? Parker? Randle?)
    C – Noel
    6 – Zeller
    7 – Snell
    Plus Nets 2014 1st rounder

    Taking the big picture into consideration, would the Cavs part ways with Varajao? They were shopping him at the trade deadline this year.

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  • #796521
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    fliptonn
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    Humphries will be a free agent next year. The point of the trade is that its expiring.

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    • #796527
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      wrector
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      Right, but CJ Miles can come off the books this year, and Varejao next. So its obsolete.

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    • #796596
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      wrector
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      Right, but CJ Miles can come off the books this year, and Varejao next. So its obsolete.

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  • #796590
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    fliptonn
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    Humphries will be a free agent next year. The point of the trade is that its expiring.

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  • #796525
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    NCarmean18
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    I don’t really care whether Humphries contract is expiring or not. Even though Varejao is aging and injury prone, last season was far and beyond his best start to a season as an NBA player, and he is worth more than an expiring contract and a draft pick that will likely be in the 20s. I just think that if Cleveland was to trade Varejao, they could get more value out of him elsewhere.

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  • #796594
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    NCarmean18
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    I don’t really care whether Humphries contract is expiring or not. Even though Varejao is aging and injury prone, last season was far and beyond his best start to a season as an NBA player, and he is worth more than an expiring contract and a draft pick that will likely be in the 20s. I just think that if Cleveland was to trade Varejao, they could get more value out of him elsewhere.

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  • #796515
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    wrector
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    I don’t like this idea. Varejao is currently as good, if not better than Humphries, albeit older and injury prone. If he could play some C, it might be a little better but he doesn’t fill a need for the Cavs. Besides, Chris Grant thinks the world of AV so he won’t take anything less than what he’s worth in his mind. The Cavs are on the verge of breaking the playoffs this season, depending on health, the draft and free agency. Their cap situation would remain unchanged, they have a TO on CJ Miles for the 13/14 season, and a TO on Varejao for the 14/15 season – so adding Kris’ 12mil to the cap for the next two years doesn’t do anything for them. This would be a total win for the Nets, and an embarrassment for the Cavs if it ever happened.

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  • #796584
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    wrector
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    I don’t like this idea. Varejao is currently as good, if not better than Humphries, albeit older and injury prone. If he could play some C, it might be a little better but he doesn’t fill a need for the Cavs. Besides, Chris Grant thinks the world of AV so he won’t take anything less than what he’s worth in his mind. The Cavs are on the verge of breaking the playoffs this season, depending on health, the draft and free agency. Their cap situation would remain unchanged, they have a TO on CJ Miles for the 13/14 season, and a TO on Varejao for the 14/15 season – so adding Kris’ 12mil to the cap for the next two years doesn’t do anything for them. This would be a total win for the Nets, and an embarrassment for the Cavs if it ever happened.

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  • #796543
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    There is a solid chance Cleveland trades the pick. You’ll know who the suitors by who the top 3-4 players are working out for and don’t own a high pick.

    Olidipo is working out tonight in Washington DC for Flip Saunders according to KFAN in Minneapolis.

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  • #796613
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    There is a solid chance Cleveland trades the pick. You’ll know who the suitors by who the top 3-4 players are working out for and don’t own a high pick.

    Olidipo is working out tonight in Washington DC for Flip Saunders according to KFAN in Minneapolis.

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  • #796575
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    jjbutler73
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    The trade is lopsided and Miles is a TO for ’13-’14, Varejao for “14-’15, so the trade saves them absolutely nothing. They can drop C.J. right now or after next year and drop Varejao or Humphries after next year, so they free up $13 million either way. No reason to tank next year by making this trade.

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  • #796645
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    jjbutler73
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    The trade is lopsided and Miles is a TO for ’13-’14, Varejao for “14-’15, so the trade saves them absolutely nothing. They can drop C.J. right now or after next year and drop Varejao or Humphries after next year, so they free up $13 million either way. No reason to tank next year by making this trade.

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  • #796695
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    Cavs only won 24 games last season so how bad could they be tanking? Hopefully they have no place to go but up.

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  • #796624
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    Cavs only won 24 games last season so how bad could they be tanking? Hopefully they have no place to go but up.

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  • #796674
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    Sewok15
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    Paul George will be a restricted FA in 2014 so he isn’t going anywhere…If Indy matched Hibbert’s deal they are certain to match George’s.

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  • #796745
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    Sewok15
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    Paul George will be a restricted FA in 2014 so he isn’t going anywhere…If Indy matched Hibbert’s deal they are certain to match George’s.

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