[llperez]

 Alonzo trier reportedly tested positive for a banned substance and has been ruled ineligible.

 

 Trier is averaging 19.6ppg…3.2rpg…3.2apg and shooting 54%fg…43%3pt…85%ft

His loss sticks a fork in any serious deep tourny run arizona might have had in mind. University of Arizona is appealing the results saying the results of the drug test showed such a small trace amount that it is likely still in his system from his positive 2016 result when he was suspended 19 games for a positive PED test

 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 Yeah this is HUGE… Barcello, Randolph and Akot need to step up but Trier is a walking bucket.. Man he better just train for the NBA draft. I doubt hes drafted

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Was about to ask "didn’t he already test positive"? Here’s the deal: there’s not a substance that I know of that would still be in your system after almost 2 years, no matter how trace the amount. But, it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove. Kid’s still got a shot at getting out of this.

[ChewyParticipant]

 He is the type of player and in the type of position where those NBA 2 way contracts can help his draft stock. Teams will be more willing to give him a shot on one of those.

As a Bulls fan I’d rather have him on one of those than Ryan Arcidiacono.

 

[warson24]

Trier is ineligible to be signed to any contract -let alone two-way contract- by an NBA team, beacuse of at least two things:
1. He didn’t went trough a draft process, a player must go drafted or undrafted on a certain draft to be able to sign with an NBA team, until he’s draft eligible he can’t sign any contract in the Association…
2. The deadline to sign two-way contracts for the 2017/8 season has already passed, so nobody can sign such an agreement now…

Two way contracts can’t help draft stocks at all, the only exception if you speaks about the Korean KBL’s annual draft….

As far as I know he can’t even sign in the G-league thanks to the rule that prevents Mitchell Robinson/Wiley/Melton to do so.

So, outside the fact that Ryan Arcidiacono, isn’t worthy of any NBA contract your entire comment is clueless… I’m astonished you got five +

 

[giddyup123Participant]

Pretty sure all this poster was implying is that that’d rather have someone of trier’s caliber on a 2-way contract. Pretty sure they’re aware of NBA eligibility rules and not implying the Bulls should sign him today. Frankly, I’m astonished by your astonishment

[ChewyParticipant]

yup

[warson24]

then tell me how can "those NBA 2 way contracts can help his draft stock"?

[ChewyParticipant]

 were a way to give incentive for NBA teams to draft more NBA ready players. Too many 2nd rd picks were being used on some foreign 7 ft 110 pounds-soaking-wet kid who most likely will never come over and play. 

Instead NBA teams can now use that pick on a player who is more NBA ready because even if the front office doesn’t have full confidence that the player will be ready, they can stash him in the D-League for a year or two and let him develop.

NBA teams may be scared by Trier’s 2 positive testings. Taking him on a 2 way contract will give an NBA team 2 years to make sure he is mature enough to invest in before giving him a bigger contract. If drug problems continue on the 2 way contract, an NBA team can cut ties with him early if the risk isn’t worth the reward they are getting.

That’s how it is improving his draft stock, and any other state side player who gets labled with any type of "character issue."

 

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 many NBA teams were taking those "long shot" overseas prospects because they won’t come over and the NBA team won’t have to pay their salary. Then if the 5% chance that this 17 yr old kid turns into the next Dirk, then the NBA team owns his rights and can bring him over.

The 2 way contract is a comprimise where the NBA is asking teams to take better players who will play in their G-League right away and in return the front office doesn’t have to pay these players as much money.

So teams save money, G-league gets better players.

 

 

[HobbyOGParticipant]

 Still in his system from 2016??? Man that’s some serious weeeedddddd….

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

My question here is didn’t he have to pass a drug test before he was eligible to play last season? I remember them saying that he had to wait until whatever he took was completely out of his system. So if whatever he took was out of his system by last February, it seems to counteract the argument that it was still in his system from 2016. But if it were the exact same substance, than I guess it could still show up if the testing were done differently. They did say it was just trace amounts. 

While this would be a devestating blow for Arizona as he is one of the best perimeter players in the country, in a strange way I could almost see them rallying around this. 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Dont do drugs kids.

[HitsterParticipant]

I’ve never heard of drugs still being in someone’s system a couple of years after a previous positive test. In lots of sports where a competitor has failed a drugs test and possibly had a ban they will often need to have follow up tests when they return to prove they are clear.

Does the NBA have any vetting process whereby guys entering the draft have to have a drugs test given the Len Bias tragedy and the more recent Michael Beasley issues.

This is mainly talking about weed/spliff/ganja/cannabis whatever you want to call it. I know it is legal in a few states but a team may be reluctant to sing a player or draft him if they know he has a recreational habit.

Lets say Beasley had been selected for Team USA and tested positive in the Olympics, I would not have liked to have been in a room with Coach K when that happened!

[Andrew1984Participant]

 I’ve preferred Rawle Alkins to Trier the past two years, so I’m hoping this will just mean more usage for Rawle. I think the Lance Stephenson comparison for him is spot-on. 

But Trier was efficient this year and active defensively, so their depth will certainly be tested. 

 

[HobbyOGParticipant]

 After today the whole NCAA will be inelgible 

[llperez]

 In hindsite, I should have just titled this thread “R.I.P. Arizona” and left it at that 

[holefillers1Participant]

 Lorenzo Romar….where are the smiley face emojis with tears of laughter…worst coach ever

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