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  • #9493
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    Russell0Westbrook
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    Why are people on this site so quick to jump on players bandwagon b4 looking at their games and stats. Russell Westbrook is more talented than rose. It’s close but people forget he just started playing point and he is just as good at the position as Rose and Rose has been playing that position his whole life. That right there should let you know how talented he is. And the assists were right there with rose. You can’t judge players by team success cuz if that was the case thats basically saying durant isn’t one of the most talented players. Judge the talent and westbrook is everything and more than rose! You same people claim to know talent think oden is a great talent, dude hasn’t done anything if he wasn’t so hyped up by the media people would thalk bad about him. He sucks he didnt even average 10 rebounds in college how can he do it in the league hes only a shot blocker! My piont is stop saying what everybody is saying and watch these players and judge for yourself. Westbrook is better now and will be in the long term. Just remeber im talking from what i see not other people or the announcer if you have a bias opinion dont respond

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  • #222218
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    Rose has more poise and is more of leader. You can’t just go off of stats but Westbrook does have more raw talent and could become better than Rose down the road. He aint there yet though.

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  • #222226
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    Russell0Westbrook
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    he has more talent cuz he did just as good as rose at a position that rose has been playing his whole life. Rose couldn’t change positions and be just as good. What westbrook did last season showed basketball talent not being a true point or anything he’s just a great talent and could easily play the two and become elite which rose cant thats why he’s more talented

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  • #222227
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    llperez

    look, I’m a die hard UCLA fan and I hated Rose for knocking my bruins out of the final four. I have every reason to be biased towards Westbrook on this issue. With that said, I’m taking Rose over Russell in a heartbeat. And I’m not basing that off stats or what position they play naturally or anything. I’m basing that off watching them play on the court. Rose has the ability to takeover games and be the a franchise player and potentially the best pg in the league in the very near future. I can not honestly say I feel the same about Westbrook, as good as he is.

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  • #222231
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    IndianaBasketball
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    – Westbrook is not just as good at point guard as Rose. The jury is still out on Westbrook even being a point guard. I think he’s a shoot first athletic slasher learning to become a playmaker.

    – You can’t always use team success to judge a player, but you shouldn’t ignore it either. Rose has had success at every level and he’s usually the main reason why. You can’t ignore that.

    – Westbrook averaged 5.3 assists per game, but he gave the ball back to the other team 3.3 times per game.

    – Westbrook averaged 15.3 points per game, but only made .398% of his shots. That’s laughable. Rose averaged 16.8 points per game and made .475% of his shots.

    I don’t even think Westbrook is explosively more athletic than Rose. They just have two different styles of play. Westbrook is live wire… He plays out of control. Rose is completely the opposite. He plays in control and is patient.

    – I watched Oden with my own two eyes his entire high school career and dude is a GREAT talent. I wasn’t even a fan of his team either.

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  • #222235
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    FastAndFurious
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    See There’s A Difference Between TALENT and RAW TALENT, And Yes Westbrook has MORE Raw Talent Than Rose, But Right Now Rose Is More Polished And Better.

    Talent- Natural Ability Of Superior Quality, A Person Having Such Ability.

    Raw Talent- Powerfully Impressive Talent.

    Rose Is the Superior Of The Two Right Now Because As I Said He Is More Polished And Understand The Point Guard Position Right Now, But If Westbrook Can Polish His Game Then He Can Surpass Rose, Or Maybe Not, But I Dont Expect Rose To Just Stay The Same Player So It’s Hard To Say.

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  • #222236
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    R-Dot-13
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    Only time will tell who will actually be better, and this debate will likely be like the Paul-WIlliams debate, whos better between them? Its a toss up to most, but I say Rose..
    For this.. I say Westbrook, give me negatives, disagree I dont care, But I personally think Westbrook is and will be the better player down the road.

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  • #222237
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Well said.

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  • #222223
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    JNixon
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    Westbrook doesn’t have more talent! He does have slightly more explosive athletic ability though. That doesn’t mean he’s more talented as a player. I don’t see how anyone could think he’s better than Rose, I mean he’s not at all. I don’t think he’ll ever be either.

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  • #222238
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    FastAndFurious
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    The Only Negatives I Have With Westbrook Is He Is Out of Control ALOT, Rose is Rarely Out of Control, That’s Why Westbrook Averages 3.3 TO’s But Then Again Rose Averaged 2.5, But Rose is Just More Poised And Smoother,Like Someone Else posted Westbrook Is A Livewire, Just Wild LOL But A Good Player.

    And BTW Westbrook Is More Explosive Than Rose Just For The Record.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVOrvoS1qQ

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  • #222239
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    llperez

    I just think it’s crazy when you compare where they came from. Westbrook was hardly recruited out of highschool and averaged like 3 points in 8 minutes as a freshman at ucla. Rose was supposed to be the next big thing right outta highschool. The fact that we are even comparing them right now is a credit to how much Russell has improved.

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  • #222241
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    IndianaBasketball
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Look at him at 2:20 and 3:07… Wow.

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  • #222243
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    gregoden08
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    Better stats, true PG, more poised, better leader, had more team success, shoots a higher FG % and in my opinion possesses more upside than Westbrook…Is Westbrook even a PG?

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  • #222244
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    FastAndFurious
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    LOL Mane Dat Video Was Sick,I Mean I’m Definetly Not Denying Rose as He Is A Top 5 Guard To Me.

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  • #222245
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    IndianaBasketball
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    That video got you hyped didn’t it lol? Rose is just better. Better ball handling, creativity off the dribble, finishing ability, shot making ability, body control… It’s just not even close. Rose can take over a game.

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  • #222246
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    JNixon
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    Derrick Rose has some of the most ridiculous hesitation moves I’ve ever seen. He seriously has elite change-of direction skills.

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  • #222249
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    20 PPG and 8 APG next year for D-Rose?

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  • #222250
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    JNixon
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    I think that’s exactly what you can expect sir…with about 5 boards.

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  • #222273
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    NYK2010
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    funny i though it was Rose’s bandwagon they jumped on. Neither will be the best pg in the league.

    Don’t only go by stats, case in point Stephon Marbury.

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  • #222277
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    I don’t based Rose’s game on stats… I based it on his skill and what he can do on the court… Saw those 2:20 and 3:07 plays man o man… That was definitely freaky… His athleticism is never questioned and his ability to change pace is so Chris Paul-like… He is definitely in the running at the top 5 PG in the L…

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