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  • #9147
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    IndianaBasketball
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    By Ralph Lawler – Friday, October 2, 2009 @ 1:23 pm

    A good solid morning Training Camp session for Mike Dunleavy’s Clippers today. The best sight was seeing rookie Blake Griffin on the court for running and shooting drills. He’s been cleared for non-contact work and expects to participate fully by next Wednesday which would likely make him available to play in the second pre-season game at home against Portland on Friday, October 9th.

    Coach gave his team the night off tonight and expects to work them hard tomorrow morning before departing Saturday afternoon for Oakland, where they’ll play the Golden State Warriors Sunday night at 6pm (KFWB-AM980).

    Second year shooting guard Eric Gordon continues to sparkle in team scrimmages. He’s slimmed down a little which has given him added quickness and it shows. He has spent some time at the point guard position and is growing more comfortable there. He was a point guard throughout high school and did not move over to the shooting guard position until college at Indiana. Sebastian Telfair (ankle) will not make the trip to Oakland, so Gordon can be expected to get some minutes at the point in the pre-season opener against the Warriors. Griffin will make the trip but will not play Sunday.

    So far so good in week one of camp. The work resumes tomorrow morning at 9:00 am.

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  • #218562
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    d-grizzly
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    what are your thoughts about gordon vs. mayo? as in talent and future and how high the potential of each player?

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  • #218566
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Talking about that topic is like beating a dead horse lol. We could go back and forth on it for days! I’d give Mayo the edge as far as overall talent goes. He’s more creative off the bounce, has a better mid-range game and he plays point guard better than EJ at this point. However, I’m a biased EJ fan. I’ve been knowing him since he was in 5th grade and I love his game. I love his attack the rim mentality and how he can finish through/around players that are bigger/taller than he is. I think he plays the game the right way. It’s hard to say who’ll be better, so I’m just going to sit back and watch it all play out lol.

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  • #218568
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    d-grizzly
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    oh no, i don’t want to debate. i just wanted your views homey.

    Oh, mk, just saw your post haha

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  • #218570
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    Michael.S.
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    im not going to say he won’t be good this year, but i still didn’t buy into Gordon, i still have some doubts

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  • #218573
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    IndianaBasketball
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    What are your doubts?

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  • #218578
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    Michael.S.
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    ok ill try my best to explain this to you

    1. I still think he is a one dimensional player, score, score, score
    2. Is he a 1 or 2?
    3. Can he create off the dribble effectively?
    4. Can he guard the quick one’s or big long two’s?
    5. Can he create for others?
    6. He can score but for that being the main part/whole part of your game you should atleast be one of the elite at it, is he an upper-tier scorer?

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  • #218583
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Those are definitely legit concerns. I think he’ll answer a few of those this season.

    1. I think this year, he’ll show more than just being able to score. Last season, being a rookie on a veteran team (M. Camby, B. Davis, R. Davis, C. Kaman and Z. Randolph), I think he just played his role. This year, he’ll be given the opportunity to do more.

    2. He’s definitely a two guard, but working on being a more effective combo guard.

    3. He gets to rim easily off the bounce, but he’s definitely not as creative as a Rose or Mayo. He definitely needs to improve here.

    4. I think he showed last year that he could guard both. He guarded everyone from CP3 to Kobe. Versus Indiana in Indianapolis, he checked TJ Ford, who we all know is super quick, and was step for step with him. I think he’s a versatile defender in the fact that he’s quick laterally, strong and has long arms. He can guard either backcourt position effectively.

    5. I think he has underrated playmaking abilities. He’ll show a little more of that this year, however we know B. Davis will dominate the ball.

    6. He’s only 20, so I wouldn’t say he’s an upper-tier scorer right now. I think he will be really soon though.

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  • #218584
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    JNixon
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    I think you can expect 18 or 19 game from him next year. He’ll have some explosive scoring games, but 2010-2011 will be his breakthrough I believe.

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  • #218587
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    d-grizzly
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    i think the kid could break 20 a game.

    i’m not sure if he’ll be able to improve his playmaking abilities much more than just a little bit more…if that makes sense haha. Baron needs the ball too much

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  • #218594
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    fastdan
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    He go to shoot the ball a lot last year because there were so many injuries on his team…if Baron, Kaman are healthy I don’t he’ll have the ball enough to drop 20, especially with BG there too. I say he’ll get around 16 a game.

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  • #218598
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    sheltwon3
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    Gordon is a combo guard and he is probably stronger scoring so putting him there would be good. I like him and people forget basketball is a team sport. Having a guy who can do everything is great but having at team that can do everything is better and with Gordon your team should not have issues scoring and scoring efficiently.

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  • #218604
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    McWinning
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    hes good he will be a great scorer his shot is so sweet and his athleticism amazes me he will be really good down the road.

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  • #218659
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    KevinDurantRocks
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    I think has more pure talent then Gordon but I think if Oj doesn’t work his butt off Gordon will pass him

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  • #218681
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    JNixon
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    Mayo will work his butt off, and I think Mayo’s better because he offers more things than Gordon does. Gordon is a scorer and an above-average on ball defender, and thats were it ends. Mayo is a better passer, defender, and ball handler who can create shots much more naturally.

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  • #218691
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    KevinDurantRocks
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    But i just want to point out Oj had more turnovers then assits if i remember right so he isn’t that much better in some of those areas

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  • #218692
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    JNixon
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    Naw Mayo had more assists than TO’s..

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  • #218697
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’d give Mayo the edge in ball handling and creating his own shot off the dribble, but it’s closer than you think in terms of passing and defending. Mayo is a more flashier passer, while Gordon is a more basic/fundamental passer. In my opinion, Gordon makes better decisions and is more patient with the ball than Mayo. Mayo may have a slight edge in defense on the ball, but I think Gordon defends in the post better, can guard bigger players and closes out on shooters better. Gordon is bigger, stronger and longer and I think he is a more versatile defender.

    I think a lot has to do with their teams. Memphis is a young team and Mayo played a lot and was a leader from day one. He had the ball in his hands a lot, so he was allowed to do more. It was completely different for Gordon. He was on a veteran team with a lot of personalities. He had to play his role and that was scoring and defending. In due time, as the youth movement takes over for the Clippers, we’ll see Gordon do A LOT more. I also think that Gordon gets overlooked somewhat because he has a quiet personality and doesn’t have the “swag” of a Mayo, Westbrook or even Rose. The reports out of LA are that he has a different attitude and has gotten comfortable, not only on the court, but with the media also. I’m expecting a big season.

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