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  • #8184
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    BasketballGuru24
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    Deuce bello a Junorr from westchester Academy is a explosive athlete and is being considered as the next vince carter, Listed as 6-3 and a Small forward. I Imagine him needing to learn how to handle the bal better and bulking up. But he is still young, and has room to improve he has some offers from baylor, Florida state, Wake forest, Miami(FL),and Maryland.

    If any of you guys got some more info please do share…..Homeboy looks pretty good, just needs to change positions lol.

    http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh789UPgkWz53bUvt2

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  • #207401
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    QHaynes20

    If he handles well, maybe next Stevie Franchise

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  • #207402
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    Champzilla21
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    I dont think he’ll be the next vince carter, based on his athleticism it is fairly similiar but u just cant replicate carter, plus as much as people hate on carter in his prime he was pretty sick, 27 pts, 6 assists, 5 rebs, his skill set combined with his athletic ability has been on of the koolest thing to see

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  • #207404
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    BasketballGuru24
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    its funny how he is listed as a small forward. Don’t know about his Wingspan or anything.

    Im listed as 6 foot and play SF or SG……..Can play the one but other guys are smaller. This only happens cause im in canada and not much people play ball more hockey.

    This guy is in the states though so i thought nice is every were

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  • #207405
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    D Hamp
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    Didn’t Jamal Pugh, who played for UMASS a few years ago, draw comparisons to Vince Carter after displaying a 50-inch verticle? lol!

    Dhamp…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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  • #207408
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    Michael.S.
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    Paul George throws down better dunks than this guy and he actually got basketball skills.

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  • #207409
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    BasketballGuru24
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    Paul George is pretty overrated in my eyes. He needs to bulk up to begin with…….he plays a different game then some other skinny nba guys so it really won’t work to his advantage. he shoots more then he is suppose to and tries to force some things……Honestly i see Xaviar henry Better then him

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  • #207410
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    JNixon
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    If your a 6’3 projected SF, I imagine you need to improve your general ball skills. He is a good leaper though.

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  • #207411
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    QHaynes20

    Paul George is a bit overhyped. I think in the end he is more a 8-14 guy then a top 7 guy

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  • #207412
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    BasketballGuru24
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    I agree with Qhaynes……Because of the lack of overall guards in this draft, they projected him higher because they think some teams going to need him, but again he has bad shot selections and can come out wild.

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  • #207414
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Does the name Jeff Trepagnier ring a bell?

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  • #207418
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    Michael.S.
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    Paul Gerge is the best guard in this draft 100%, and he has one of the most if not the most potential in this draft.

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  • #207420
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    QHaynes20

    John Wall?

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  • #207421
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    Michael.S.
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    it’s pretty close………but I give Wall a slight nod

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  • #207422
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    QHaynes20

    Paul George is nice, I say he has Kobe-Like skills but still, it is a risk because he is playing inferior talents and defenders.

    I think he would have to have a 19ppg, 6rpg,6apg season to be a top 10 pick because there are at least 10 talents IMO better then George.

    Plus, I feel Henry will be better then George

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  • #207423
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    Michael.S.
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    Name Them
    even if you can
    Theres no way you can name 5 with more potential

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  • #207424
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    QHaynes20

    More Potential: ReNardo Sindey, Lance Stephenson, John Wall, Derrick Favors, William Buford, Jordan Hamilton

    10 players better: John Wall, Renardo Sindey, Derrick Favors, Evan Turner, Cole Alrdich, Lance Stephenson, Xavier Henry, Avery Bradley, Willie Warren, DeMarcus Cousins

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  • #207429
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    Michael.S.
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    Potential: GTF out. William Buford? whoa this guy is a one dimensional player, with average speed, avg. athleticism, can’t dribble NO WAY
    Jordan Hamilton? NO, NO, NO
    Sidney? Close but no, tooo lazy, no killer instinct
    Stephenson? Below agv. athleticism, below avg. speed, selfish, immature NO
    the only legit ones you listed were Wall, and possibly Favors

    Better:
    Cousins, Henry, Bradley, Turner and Warren NO

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  • #207430
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    JNixon
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    Have you ever watched Paul George play QHaynes? Honestly, because some of those guys (Hamilton, Stephenson, Sidney) dont have his upside.

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  • #207431
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    Michael.S.
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    For-real Q get serious

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  • #207432
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    QHaynes20

    I have seen George play. He is good but has holes in his game and the players he plays wont show his potential. To be honest, name the last guy who did not play any real talent and got picked in the top 10?

    I seen Lance Stephenson play against big talents from day 1 and held his own. He needs to work on a few things but to me, he can be a top 10 pick. He has a lot of upside if you get him to a good coach.

    Some people compared Sindey to Garnett….

    Hamilton is good. I think he will be a high draft pick when he comes out as well. I think he’s more 2011 then 2010 but I see a high pick

    Dude, you like George so you think he better then most players. Trust me, he will not be a top 5 nor top 7 pick. I see more of 8-14. Unless he plays against top talents and holds his own.

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  • #207434
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    QHaynes20

    I forgot a boatlod of guys…

    Ed Davis? John Henson? Patrick Patterson? Devin Ebanks?

    You gotta look at everything before going off highlight tapes

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  • #207435
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    Michael.S.
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    I have seen George play. He is good but has holes in his game and the players he plays wont show his potential. To be honest, name the last guy who did not play any real talent and got picked in the top 10?

    WOW umm. LeBron James…..Kobe Bryant……….KG………T-Mac…………come on

    I seen Lance Stephenson play against big talents from day 1 and held his own. He needs to work on a few things but to me, he can be a top 10 pick. He has a lot of upside if you get him to a good coach.

    George’s COLLEGE competition blows Stephenson’s H.S. competition outta the water………..are you going nuts

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  • #207436
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    gatorheels
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    Paul George didn’t even lead his team in scoring.  His team was awful.  Played against terrible comp.  He has to get his teams more wins this year if he expects to even be a lottery pick in the 2010 draft.  There are much better prospects.  I highly doubt many if any of you have ever seen George play a single full game. 

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  • #207437
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    QHaynes20

    what???!?!?!!?!?

    Ok, your using 90’s guys and LBJ( who was a projected lotto pick as a junior in hs)…LOL….get out of here with that.

    No he does not. Lance played games with force. You must now..no…HAVE NOT…seen Lance play. He has beat teams down. Good team in NY and NJ. He also tore up the Elite Boost game 3 years in a row.

    Your a NY guy and dont know Lance….lol

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  • #207440
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    Michael.S.
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    Gatorheels , there aren’t much better prospects then him, with the exception of a couple

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  • #207441
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    gatorheels
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    Haha OK…I want to know why nobody was talking about him during the season last year.  Only time I started hearing people talk about him was when he appeared on the 2010 mock draft on this site lol.

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  • #207442
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    QHaynes20

    Thank You

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  • #207448
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    Michael.S.
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    what???!?!?!!?!?

    Ok, your using 90’s guys and LBJ( who was a projected lotto pick as a junior in hs)…LOL….get out of here with that.

    WTF are you talkin about your question was name the last guy who did not play any real talent and got picked in the top 10? NO H.S player played real talent. silly

    No he does not. Lance played games with force. You must now..no…HAVE NOT…seen Lance play. He has beat teams down. Good team in NY and NJ. He also tore up the Elite Boost game 3 years in a row.

    And you saying Stephenson’s competition is better than George’s is like saying College is more comp then Over Seas

    Your a NY guy and dont know Lance….lol

    OH yea Ive never seen him ………..nooooooo i only see him 5 times a year

    your replies honestly make no sense, Ive answered every B.S. question of yours Legit

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  • #207451
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    Champzilla21
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    You need to remember that the combine will work to his favour also, he is a great athlete 6’7 good height for a sg/sf a pretty nice wing span, sometimes it can elavate players alot, like holiday

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  • #207452
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    Michael.S.
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    Who, wants to bring up a guy nobody knows huh

    And QHAYNES

    Enes Kanter

    this dude was brought up 2 days ago and you hopped on him ASAP saying he’s gonna be a star

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  • #207453
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    MagikKnick
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    How did this topic go from Deuce Bello and Vince Carter to Paul George?

    Anywho, Paul George is super overrated…

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  • #207454
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    MagikKnick
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    I agree with that Mikenike

    3 days ago nobody knew who Kanter was, now hes a stud..i dont understand how that happened

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  • #207447
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    JNixon
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    If I hadnt seen him play I would say I havent seen him play, or I would say I havent seen him play alot, like I did in the Elliot Williams post. I have no reason to talk about something or someone I know anything about. I saw the St. Mary’s game when he jumped over the guy. I commented on a post back when my user name was Jorrye24… here’s the link: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/4664.

    And he has more upside than Stephenson; who is a scorer and only a scorer, Hamilton; who also strictlly a scorer, and Sidney who shows alot of talent but is always out of shape and doesnt even play in the post despite being huge.

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  • #207457
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    QHaynes20

    Well, I talked to the Slam and Freaknick guys…The Guys who know about the Euro players and told me…watch out for this kid and I went, did my research and saw film.

    I never jump the gun on stuff like that. When people who watch Euro Ball for a min….I go with them

    And to burst your bubble…I gave you a link where they were calling him a stud on ESPN…

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  • #207460
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    gatorheels
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    I would take Scotty Hopson or Sylvan Landesberg or Terrico White over Paul George

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  • #207461
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Has anybody actually watched George play? I mean, the only way I could see that happening is if you live near Fresno. A W.A.C team that finished last in their conference isn’t exactly national audience material. Their future lottery pick and top shot taker didn’t even lead their team in scoring, like gatorheels said. I had a “Full Court Press” subscription last year, and there wasn’t ONE Fresno State game on schedule.

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  • #207462
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    Michael.S.
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    I DOUBT you have seen him play , I could put 100 bills on it

    funny how right after they talked about him…………you automatically have film

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  • #207463
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    QHaynes20

    I agree.

    I like George’s game but he is not a superstar IMO. He needs to play better talent so we can get a better grasp of what player he is

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  • #207464
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    Michael.S.
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    I would take Scotty Hopson or Sylvan Landesberg or Terrico White over Paul George

    OK say it now……….regret it in the future

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  • #207465
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    QHaynes20

    Whoa, who said I had film? LOL.

    I said I did my research and saw film…i dont have film on him but other places do…

    Mike you need to chill

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  • #207466
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    QHaynes20

    I would put money….

    Terrico White is better then Paul George

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  • #207468
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    Michael.S.
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    give me a link to the places that have film

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  • #207470
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    Michael.S.
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    I would hand deliver 200$ to your house if White is better then George

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  • #207473
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    sakuragi84
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    this feels like the john wall argument again. someone said (it slips my mind right now who said) that john wall is the best point guard ever even before he’s played a game in the nba. either way, gotta wait till they play in the nba to get a real gauge on how good they are going to be because it’s all speculation right now.

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  • #207471
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    JNixon
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    No way I would take Terrico White, Scotty Hopson over George. Neither one of them do anything better than George except White is the better passer and Hopson may be a better leaper. Landesburg is a better ball handler and scorer, but he doesnt have George’s upside and wont be a better player in the NBA. VERY slim chance.

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  • #207474
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    QHaynes20

    I cannot believe your taking this like that.

    Paul George plays in the WAC…he plays no real comp other then Gonzaga that 1 top 5 pick ever.

    He would not be a beast in the SEC, ACC, PAC 10….come on now.

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  • #207475
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    QHaynes20

    MIKE SAID THAT

    HE CALLED WALL…THE BEST PG EVER…A PG LEBRON.

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  • #207476
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    Michael.S.
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    i said it
    and i didn’t say he IS the best PG ever that’s just dumb
    i saud he has a CHANCE to be, because he has infinite potential

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  • #207477
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    JNixon
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    Paul George at worst would have a Earl Clark (less rebounding) type impact for a high major program.

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  • #207478
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    Michael.S.
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    Stop Mis-quoting me to make me sound stupid

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  • #207479
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    gatorheels
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    Wow…I can’t believe what I am hearing.  Huge difference between the SEC/ACC Conference & the Western Athletic…as far as level of competition goes.  If Paul George was so good he should’ve lead that team to way more wins in that weak conference.  

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  • #207480
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    QHaynes20

    Ok, here’s the main thing

    You love high potential guys. Anyone with high upside you like and you’ll defend them to the end. Not a problem but I’ve been down this road before

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  • #207481
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    gatorheels
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    Paul George wouldn’t even start for Tennesee.  No way he is better than Hopson.

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  • #207482
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    QHaynes20

    Gator…forget it…its a losing battle

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  • #207483
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    Michael.S.
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    No i like. who i like

    i don’t jump on any prospects ass because they are hyped

    QHaynes

    stop trying to make me sound dumb

    i didn’t say Wall is the Greatest PG ever , i said i wouldn’t be surprised if he was because of the infinite potential he possesses, and i said i COMPARE him to a PG LeBron

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  • #207484
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    JNixon
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    Its not as big a dip as you think. The difference usually is the level of depth, UNC has 7 or 8 guys that are good players and deserve significant minutes while Fresno State has Paul George. You cant expect 1 talented guy to win a bunch of games. When has that ever happened? Thats why in the tourny there are upsets every year. Your comparing the team George plays for to the SEC’s teams, when you should compare the SEC’s SG/SF’s to George.

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  • #207485
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    gatorheels
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    Fresno St. went 13-21 last season playing against cupcakes LOL

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  • #207488
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    gatorheels
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    Iguodala- I am comparing, Hopson is the starting SG/SF for Tennessee.  He is better than George no doubt.

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  • #207489
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    __________
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    mention that they thought renardo sidney is better than paul george? Cmon he doesnt put in the work and isnt in shape. he hasnt improved much since his junior year

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  • #207490
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    QHaynes20

    Mike…yo jumped on the Tomas dude as well. You said on that post…I saw alot of sites put him in the 1st round so i am…..jumping on that dude when you haven’t seen him play.

    To Be Honest…you take any dude off of a UCLA, Duke, UNC, Mississipi St any big school in a big conference and put them in a WCC school..they go nuts.

    Like Jay Bilas said…” I was a ACC player of the year…you put me in the Ivy League…I would have been a 4 time Ivy League player of the year”

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  • #207491
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    Michael.S.
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    Get the post Q so i can shut you up

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  • #207492
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    JNixon
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    1. Fresno St. went 13-21 last season playing against cupcakes LOL
    2. Huge difference between the SEC/ACC Conference & the Western Athletic…as far as level of competition goes. If Paul George was so good he should’ve lead that team to way more wins in that weak conference.

    That would be talking about the team’s conference and not talking about the players.

    And what does Scotty Hopson do better than George?

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  • #207493
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    QHaynes20

    It was on of your mock draft post…..i’ll go try to find it.

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  • #207494
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    gatorheels
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    Yall are starting to sound stupid now.  You telling me there isn’t a big difference between the SEC & the Western Athletic hahahah

    Fresno St. did play a ton of cupcakes 

     

    Hopson is simply the better overall player…I could care less what the mock draft says LOL  Watch what happens this season. 

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  • #207496
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    JNixon
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    You know good and well Im not saying that, Im talking about how you said your not talking about about the conference as opposed to the players that play George’s position.

    Scotty Hopson did nothing better than George last year, statistically or anything so how is he simply the better player?

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  • #207497
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    QHaynes20

    I cannot find it…but you know you were hyping Tomas Satoransky don’t lie.

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  • #207498
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    Michael.S.
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    Ill get it !

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  • #207500
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    gatorheels
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    The level of competition has a ton to do with the players.

    How you going to compare stats when George plays against much weaker comp than Hopson.  George also got significantly more playing time.  

    All I am saying is this season will prove who is right ha.  It should be fun to see how George & Hopson play this year.

    I just think a lot of people jumped on Georges bandwagon once that saw his name high in the mock draft.  

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  • #207501
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    QHaynes20

    Thank you. I like George and saw him play some games (St.Mary’s and Nevada) He had 0 points against Nevada…so he has some learning to do and he has some room for improvement.

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  • #207502
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    JNixon
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    Hopson does nothing as a player as good as George. The level of competition has an effect, but you cant get me to believe George couldnt have played for every single team in the SEC.But Hopson doesnt have anything skill as a player thats better than George. Plain and simple. He’s just a better athlete.

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  • #207503
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    JNixon
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    Mike Beasley scored 5 pts against Xavier 2 yrs back, every player has a bad game. No matter who you are. Yes, he can improve but tell me who cant in college basketball? They would be pro’s if they didnt need improvement in an area.

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  • #207504
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    QHaynes20

    Iguadala…read what i said under that.

    He still has weaknesses, learning to do and still has room to improve.

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  • #207505
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    gatorheels
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    I wonder why George wasn’t recruited by any of the major conferences? I’m not trying to be funny.  I’m serious, did he have bad grades or something?  I guess he could’ve just been simply overlooked.  He wasn’t highly rated coming out of high school though from what I understand.  

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  • #207506
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    QHaynes20

    His main 2 schools was Pepperdine and Fresno State

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  • #207508
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    JNixon
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    I read exactly what you said, and I say it again. Everybody has bad games, and every college player can improve in areas. That shouldnt lead you to say he is overhyped or not that good because he didnt have 1 good game.

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  • #207509
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    Michael.S.
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    yeah can’t find it. but post it if you find it so i can show you

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  • #207510
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    Michael.S.
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    anyways im leaving here , we will see this up coming season

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  • #207511
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    QHaynes20

    Yea, but for the potential…you can pick bad games and see where he can improve.

    In that game where B-Easy score 5 points, someone can say the same thing.

    Plus how many sites have him in the lottery beside this one? I’m asking because I dont know…maybe this site is giving him the “prediction” mock. Where they thing he can be by the end of the season. Like Buford.

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  • #207522
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    Lemons4Life
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    First off is this an argument for Paul George? Second, returning to the main question no one knows really how good the prospect is gonna be. Another thing is…..uhhhh Wazzup Qhaynes?

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  • #207536
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    QHaynes20

    wazzup homie?

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  • #207713
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    quincey hodges

    dont forget when you mention all of these incomming freshman, that you say potenially better not better already because they can easily come in and pull a bj mullins or jru holiday,felipe lopez, josh mcrobers shavlick randolph chris burgess, marcus taylor,jarod ward..etc

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