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  • #7781
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    valentine

    John Wall- more scoring Mo Cheeks?

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  • #201698
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    MallStax5
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    can this guy play a college game please stop talking about him

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  • #201699
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    QHaynes20

    uhh….we can talk about who we want, I was asking a question either answer the question or dont post please, thank you

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  • #201703
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    Michael.S.
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    We all know how I feel about Wall, but these players are from different generations , Wall right now is a far superior player than Cheeks was in his prime, as for the comparison Cheeks was a avg. athlete and had avg. speed , he wasn’t a scorer by any stretch, he wasn’t flashy, i don’t see the comparison at all really

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  • #201704
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    blazer_fan_forever
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    “Wall right now is a far superior player than Cheeks was in his prime”

    I don’t get that statement…

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  • #201706
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    Michael.S.
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    Then you can’t read.

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    • #201709
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      Because from that statement I thought you were implying that Wall, right now is better than Mo-Cheeks ever was…Which to be honest, is a joke…Mo-Cheeks was one of the best defenders in the NBA in his prime. Not to mention he was a multiple time all-star…If Wall was in the NBA right now he wouldn’t average over 13 ppg…

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  • #201711
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    Michael.S.
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    those stats dont mean anything Basketball players are lightyears better than 35 years ago buddy

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    • #201722
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      Mo didn’t play 35 years ago. I get what your saying though, but come on…John Wall, for all the talents that he has, is still a bit of a project. He has no jumper, turnover prone and isn’t a very good leader…I think John will have a better career than Mo, but to say that this 18-19 year old kid right now is better than prime Mo is a little ridiculous. Especially considering that he’s never played in a college/NBA game.

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  • #201713
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    QHaynes20

    not taking sides here…

    Mo cheeks last played in 1993

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  • #201716
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    Michael.S.
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    true but when was he in his prime?

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  • #201723
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    QHaynes20

    1979-1988

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  • #201724
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    QHaynes20

    i was also reading he has some off the court issues. Some sites say this is a weakness for him.

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    • #201726
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      Yeah, I’ve read the same thing…Off the court issues are a lot bigger than a lot of people realize. It’s ruined some peoples careers.

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  • #201725
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    Michael.S.
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    Mo didn’t play 35 years ago. I get what your saying though, but come on…John Wall, for all the talents that he has, is still a bit of a project. He has no jumper, turnover prone and isn’t a very good leader…I think John will have a better career than Mo, but to say that this 18-19 year old kid right now is better than prime Mo is a little ridiculous. Especially considering that he’s never played in a college/NBA game

    ok no harsh feelings right, sorry for coming on like an a$$, Wall is a bit of a project no lie, but Wall’s has a substantially higher ceiling than that of Mo Cheeks, and sorry i was exaggerating the 35 yrs thing more like 25

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    • #201728
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      It’s cool. But yeah, I agree…Wall has an enormously high ceiling and has top-10 player potential. I was just saying that for all the talents Wall has, he has some weaknesses. Still plenty of time to improve.

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  • #201730
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    Michael.S.
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    agreed . but does anyone see the comparison?

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    • #201738
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      Is the height and strength…Outside of that, I don’t see one. To be honest, I don’t know if Mo was a good shooter or not…If he wasn’t, then maybe the comparisons are partially valid.

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    • #201746
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      I don’t really see the comparison between the two. Cheeks didn’t have the athleticism and first step of Wall and also didn’t push the ball at his kind of pace up the floor. Cheeks was a better passer and a superior defender than Wall at this stage in his development.

      Personally, I will admit only based of highlight tapes from the seventies, I think Walt Frazier is the best comparison for John Wall if making a comparison from different eras.

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  • #201740
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    no, i don’t see it, if you’re comparing him to a player that play a while ago, compare him to a bigger kevin johnson, uber athletic, not a great outside game, can get teammates involved but has a score first mentailty.

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    • #201742
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      blazer_fan_forever
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      That’s a better one…I still think Wall has a pass first mentality, but that’s just me.

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  • #201744
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    BasketballGuru24
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    I pretty sure we can’t compare him to legends right now……but i see him as derick rose right now.

    For some reason i think this guy will become worse in college…..and his stock will decrease

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  • #201748
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    QHaynes20

    I wanted to put Walt…but I felt thats too much IMO

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    • #201750
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      Yeah obviously Wall has a long way to go before he’s legitimately compared to an NBA legend. But Wall and Frazier have some uncanny similarities in skillset and style of play.

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  • #201827
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    Chicago1980
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    Why does everybody keep bringing this guy up like he is the next coming of M. Jordan. Let’s see how he does in college before we crown him the next great one. I dont see how you can compare a Highschool kid to Mo Cheeks one of the best PG’s in the NBA when he played.

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  • #201837
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    JNixon
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    I see a lot Derrick Rose and Rajon Rondo in Wall. he has the jump shot, body build, quickness and 1st step of Rondo and the playmaking ability, height, and athletic ability of Derrick Rose

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  • #201850
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    quincey hodges

    basically any player who can jump and is fast and has handles has a very high ceiling right if they are a guard,big man and if they are somewhat raw?

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