Not trying to be Cocky BUT…

Yawn…

Seriously, this site is sucking major bullocks right now. I used to be a regular poster for a few weeks. Then… people started to post their random trade ideas with no basis other than to make their home team better through the trade. I mean, most of them do not even make that much sense when all factors are considered. And also, now we have these pansies who make threads to apologize for making crappy comments or to say hello for joining the site. That pisses me off, cuz we should be here to talk ball. Another reason why I don’t post much on this site anymore is the fact that people keep sharing their feelings and stuff and make fun of each other on the threads. This forum quality on this site has seriously gone downhill in the last 2 months or so. If you want to be a part of a better forum community, join Inside hoops. There isn’t really any pointless bickering and pretending to be James Harden or Al Farouq Aminu. Also, the thread quality is monitored and posted so that I can shuffle through the best forums of the day.

lozer!!!!

It’s called i work 45 hours a week give me a break. I can’t entertain you guys every waking moment of my life without getting paid for it. jeeze.

I hate this site. =)

Name the 8!!!

Is that bad if I’m not listed???????????

Tuck243…. I havent’ see you in a long time bro! Where have you been? Anyway, really what happened was that more users than usual were creating accounts with this site during March Madness, the zenith of the basketball season. The new users (there were alot of them) created great forums and debate. Well when basketball season ended, many people went away. Honestly, I had been visting this site for about seven years before creating an account in March. But lately, the site has gone down hill a little, probably because it’s the summer and there isn’t much basketball news. Things will get better during the season. I used to always pick on people and talk trash, but I haven’t done that in about a month now. I let my posts and my signature speak for itself. I still love this site.

Dhamp…the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

what about me?

yeah, not many people have been posting lately,
and knicksboy, you’d be on my list.

your list for what?

for the people that post everyday and are more knowledgeable of the game

oh thanks

comon’ i know im new to posting, but i’ve followed this site a while and good posts, with reasons why i posted it, i hate it when people just say no and dock you points and don’t give reasons

I was really feelin’ this site 3-4 months ago… Great topics with great arguments and debates from dudes who had some serious b-ball brains. I ain’t had a good argument in months. I’m slaughtering the dudes at work and the gym. This site was my go-to move… I knew I could come here and get a good ass argument or hear one. Now the topics are somewhat lame… We have new dudes talking about ‘role plays’ and ‘gentle teddy bears’. Majority of the arguments are terrible and we now have dudes making outrageous statements with no intent to even back it up w/ facts. I don’t even bother to open some topics now.

Other than xbadgerhustler, tuck, iguodala, d hamp, sheltwon, yupyup, lperez22, gator, auber… A couple other dudes here and there, I’m just not feeling the arguments or the statements. kacey4321 is coo. And the only new dude really having an impact on me is qgotham15 at this point.

once basketball season kicks up…this site will be packed again

no love for me? the perfect time is in between school letting out and the draft, its perfect then.

Agreed. People just wanna make claims, and then they don’t have any reasoning behind their ideas… I think it’s mostly because there isn’t much of anything going in basketball right now so people are bored.

Some people are also really sensitive if you disagree with something they say. It’s ok to disagree on things lol. Just cuz I disagree with someone does not mean that I am out to get them.

New people have to stop creating so many topics and just debate on the good topics…. which are few and far between right now. i don’t even read 90% of the topics cuz they don’t even sound interesting

Hate it or Love it……Its Just Your Opinion

I ready for the season too! Omgoodness, its been really boring so far with no real franchise changing moves or players. But I know for a fact alot of guys will start the topics and discussions when it starts. I appreciate all you guys though, even when you disagree with me, because you guys have alot of great points man. Yall pick my brain and see how I think and its actually increasing my perspective on the game. I went from just a guy that used to impress friends and family with my “knowledge” on basketball, to a guy that can name players and not feel like Im the only one that knows about them. Its real cool man. Just stop with the trades and mock drafts and the other crazy topics and we have a site that we can all love.

why is knicksboy 34 a problem?

lol….Tuck…i know what a MLE is buddy. I know more about basketball then you will ever kno…your just mad i get respect.

Everybody just needs to chill. This isnt even about basketball. Who cares about who some guy you dont know thinks are the 8 best posters on the site. This isnt a popularity contest. Just share knowledge, news, and opinions. Its not a dick measuring comp.

I agree with Knicksfreak. Tuck is still a hater though

for real tuck, your a punk a$$, leave the site

tuck u sound like an elitist EY/PWC lol

i have to agree with tuck, if someone opposes your opinion you generally just fold and say they shouldn’t question your vast basketball knowledge instead of arguing the point

LOL….it seems your the only one who cares and remembers that

That’s why your upset? One topic that you didn’t beat me on…wow dude, get over yourself. I dont care we can still argue man I dont care.

I dont back down from noone.

if you think knicksboy34 is wrong alot instead of calling Knicksboy34 an names just start proving hes wrong .namecallings not going to get the other members respect.

Badger….shut up man. Your mad because i flat told you the Hawks aren’t title contenders.

you do do that sometimes. but not that often.

hahahahaha lol, i couldn’t care less whether or not you think the hawks are title contenders. i’m not a fan of them at all. but i would like some sort of explanation as to WHY you would completely write them off… they certainly have the talent…

Horford, Pachulia, Murray, Crawford, Johnson, Bibby, Marvin Williams, Evans, Josh Smith, Teague…

I’m not saying they are going to win anything, but i definitely don’t think you can just say they aren’t going to be title contenders. anyone can just SAY anything… that’s what tuck is saying, and not just to you, but to everyone. don’t just say something. take the time to think about what you’re saying and the reasoning behind why you’re saying it

When I give you one-line that because there is only one reason.

what is that one reason?

exactly my point. stating one opinion does not give any reasoning.

not to sound to cocky or anything, but the site kept going on while you were gone. If you have a problem with us other users then maybe you should just leave. I agree their is allot new users that won’t listen to other opinions.

Horford, Pachulia, Murray, Crawford, Johnson, Bibby, Marvin Williams, Evans, Josh Smith, Teague

You take Bibby off this team, who is the guy who playmakes for these guys? Joe Johnson will look for a new team…He can go to NY and make money and still be the #1 option or go to a team where he can just get a boatload of money and lose all year. Teague (even in college) was a scoring point. He wont change that. At best he is a 5,6 apg guy. Josh Smith need someone to create for him and at best is a #2 option without a jumper. Murrary, Evans and Marvin are off the bench guys at best. Crawford is the biggest chuck in the NBA. Horford is nice but not a superstar and Pachulia is not that great.

If Bibby begins to decrease this year…if I’m Joe Johnson…why stay? Why go back to 30 win seasons and having to be the PG/SG for 82 games?

30 wins what are you talking about? and i think this team is going up not down Bibby has a few good years left in the tank, and they have a lot of young players developing, and Biby is more of a scoring pg than people think, hes not quite like Nash, or Kidd.

Before Bibby came in, this team was a 30 win team who had Joe Johnson running the point alot. If Bibby’s game regresses, Johnson will need to run the point until Teague is ready…

I think maturity is something that holds Atlanta back. Josh Smith doesnt listen to anybody and falls in love with his own shot. Crawford is a ball hog too. The only unselfish players on that roster are Johnson and Bibby. Bibby is a shell of his former self and never took over the Hawks locker room like I thought he would. They have as much raw talent as any team but chemistry is a very underrated aspect of basketball. They’re just another example that it takes more than great athletes to win, you need the right puzzle pieces. Crawford will help them though because they only had a few deep threats in the past. The problem for them is that there is only one basketball. Washington is another team with a ton of talent but no true leader.

tuck…if you dont like the site…you can logout…not like we would care.

that was before they had Horferd, and Williams, and Smith were both a lot younger, and they have Crawford now, a 20pt scorer.

lol i wouldn’t call bibby a playmaker, first of all. bibby is not much more than a 5,6 apg guy anyway.

it sounds to me like you’re reasoning for johnson leaving is that he’s leaving for the money and to be a #1 option… that’s flawed logic to me considering the Hawks can offer him the biggest contract and he ALREADY is the #1 option in ATL.

Crawford is the biggest chuck in the NBA? ok…. just not even going to acknowledge that comment.

“why go back to 30-win seasons (with the hawks)” what would lead him to believe he will have anything but that playing with teams like the knicks or the twolves?

lol plz check the stats knicksboy, bibby averaged 5.0 apg last season…… his best contribution was only committing 1.6 turnovers, which gave him an assist-to-TO of 3.1

I cant promise anything but I think Johnson would strongly consider a reunion with D’Antoni and Amare in NY next offseason. Walsh has alread made it a point to say that if Lebron isnt available that he will target Johnson.

wow. some cool kids on here

i agree with xbadgerhustler i think he will stay. hell get good money, be the number 1 option, and be on a good team, and im not a hawks fan either.

we will call this so called bball talk now days THE DOG DAYS OF SUMMER! not quality bball talk until training camp or major trades.

we are all entitled to a opinion but you never know, Joe Johnson could look for a team where he wants to win a title or he may stay in Atlanta

lol *crickets*

then you post a one-liner while your bitching about me…wow

hahaha the one-liner shoulda been an edit to my prior post, but i wanted to make sure that u saw that bibby was only a 5 apg guy, since you said teague could only ever be a 5-6 apg guy, like that was a HUGE drop in production from bibby, when in reality that’d be the exact same

bibby is a good player, but he’s not really a pass-first PG

its the off-season, 300+ days away from the draft(this is a draft website)… Obviously the level of bball talk will be way down– there isn’t much to talk about right now really.

will go somewhere where he is the #1 option.
just like he did with ATL
the only exception i see is NY
otherwise.
he is staying or going to an ass team maybe Minnsota to mentor Wayne Elligton who knows

Knicks haven’t made the playoffs in how many years? And their still the most talked about team here

so what? The Knicks are the wealthiest and biggest basketball market on the East Coast…why not talk about them. I’m not bias because if Joe Johnson was a FA…The Knicks would be a good fit.

is not getting younger. older players have tendencies to sign with campionship contenders, or former teams, or cities they grew up in. I think johnson will stay in ATL. or sign with a championship team that needs an upgrade at sg.

lol it’s funny cuz this whole J-J argument stems from me just trying to get an explanation of how the atl hawks have no shot at winning a title

Tuck what is your favorite team?

badger…im guessing your a bucks fan?

I agree there are some idiots making trade ideas that doesn’t make any sense.

Twolves… i just went to school in wisconsin

Tuck whats yours?

I’m much less of a fan of the wolves now because, even living in WI, there are almost ZERO games on TV, and it’s hard to root hard for a team that is almost completely different from the one u rooted for 4 years ago.

that said, i had an internship last winter/spring and i watched almost every game… and we were AWFUL.

I think I understand why you hate NY…. You guys are small team fans…

lol, all NY fans think that everyone hates NY. when did i EVER say i hated NY. NY fans are paranoid that everyone is out to get them

Because whenever we discuss the Knicks…there is always people hating saying we have a bias!

which is true… how can u say you DON’T have a bias? everyone acts like having a bias is such a bad thing… no, it is what it is. other people just have to take that into account when they have a discussion about the knicks with u knick fans

it’s just dirtier than most places…

I feel bad for you badger, you should have jumped ship with me when they traded Mayo for Love. Worst NBA draft trade ever. Period.

OJ Mayo is going to be a team leader and a guy who is going to want the ball in his hands when it comes to clutch time. When I think of Kevin Love I don’t see that at all. I see a gritty white boy trying to establish himself in a game of Black Giants. To me this trade was a mediocre player (Mike Miller), a borderline 3rd/4th option (Kevin Love), and Salary dumps in exchange for a guy who in my mind could very well be a hall of fame player when everything done.

Mayo just has “IT.” He’s been there and done that and for the most part he’s got a sturdy head laying on top of his shoulders. One player doesn’t take a single team to a championship. He needs budding stars around him to make it happen. In my mind Mayo has this. He’s got a serviceable point guard in Mike Conley, a 20-10 player in Zach Randolph, developing big men in Thabeet and Gasol, and a true robin to batman in Rudy Gay. I would not be surprised at all to see this team win 48 games next year. Not on the fact that they drafted Thabeet, because I thought the pick was terrible, but because of the fact that they finally have something going for them.

This whole Hawks argument is nonsense. Breaking down overall roster I can name only a handful of teams who without individual and instead overall talent may be better than the Hawks right now. These teams being Boston, Orlando, and Washington off of the top of my head initially. Their all play off caliber teams that could very well find themselves in the Eastern Conference Finals. Each team is deep when it comes to their roster much like the Hawks. Something that truly needs to be factored into playoff runs.

For this reason and more I believe Cleveland even with the addition of Shaq is far from winning an NBA Championship. This isn’t the Shaq of old we know and loved in LA and Orlando. It’s the same old and moldy Shaq that will be scoring on garbage points. Averaging 15-10 shooting 55% from the field playing 25 minutes per game for 64 games this season. If this is what you want to call help Lebron and the Cleveland organization I suggest implementing the rebuilding plans sooner rather than later. Cleveland is not deep. Starting Anderson Varejao and Anthony Parker is like putting a band-aid onto a 3rd degree burn. I do like the Jamario Moon signing despite what it cost them. He maybe able to give Lebron a much needed breather here and there when needed.

If your gonna drop knowledge back it up on the site with a legit opinion and blatant facts. Don’t just state your mind and peace on everyone.

it’s just dirtier than most places- not really. Manhattan is dirty but most players dont live there

nothing too special about NY- Yea, nothing…endorsements, arena with traditions nothing about NY is special

this thread is the problem with this site. nobody used to care about who was more “knowledgeable”. you guys are acting like you’re trying to be invited to that really popular hot chicks party or something. Say what you think and if someone is against that f*** them. I’m tired of all the brown nosing on this site.

By biggest issue with Mayo is the fact that he thinks he’s a PG. That’s fine if he wants to play PG, but he’s not going to get the most out of his skill-set by being the PG, IMO. He’s a scorer who is a good passer, but that doesn’t make him a PG. I’m not really sure if he understands how to get everyone involved in the game.

I’m also not a huge fan of the Mayo trade (i almost crapped my pants i was so excited when they picked him, only to wake up the next morning to find him GONE!) but I will say that KLove is a GREAT rebounder- one of the best in the game already. I think that if he can add the 3pt shot to his game, he will be a valuable 3rd/4th option. Al just needs shooters around him to stretch the court. there isn’t one player in the NBA who can stop Al in the post one-on-one. If Mike Miller (the shooter) would have showed up, the trade wouldn’t have looked SO bad.

OK. Got an E-mail from Aran. He’s getting admins for this site. I say it’s about time.

auber is soooo biased.

I have to cheer against the Knicks this season because Utah has their first round pick this season. Danilo is freakin’ awesome though.

I wouldn’t say that Knicksboy’s bias affects his ability to have a good arguement.

I should get a Admin spot!

hahaha that’s funny knicksboy

a bias ALWAYS affects the ability to have a good argument if the topic is related to his bias in any way. And here, it often times will be

i agree with tuck. especially about bakimm. bruh no lie u like a str8 b*tch with that chain in ur mouth. Like a complete lame!! but yea this site does tend 2 piss me of with ppl throwin in trades they make up in their spare time. but honestly i jus go 2 the topics that actually seem like sumthin worth visitin. 1 more thing…….bakimm please take that gay azz picture of the website

have they chosen the admins yet?

Um, He said he will choose admins to monitor this site and whatnot. He’ll decide after he gets back from Vegas.

I hope it’s me….

Y’all wrong for clowing bakimm… (I think he may be yllatnem dedrater)

seriously?

Look at his picture and read his posts…