2017/2018 NBA awards to be revealed today

Well done. You picked them all!

I guessed all the winners right too, but didn’t see this thread in time to win the meaningless internet points haha.

I disagree that Mitchell should have won ROY. Any other year, he wins by a landslide obviously, but Simmons had one of the best rookie seasons of all time.

Seeing uneducated fans on twitter commenting how Mitchell was robbed is hilarious. Not saying you fit in that uneducated category of course. Mitchell had a legitimate case, I’m a Jazz fan, and he’s one of my favourite players.

I think the main thing that stood out to me in the arguments for and against was the uniqueness of Simmons’ season relative to his peers.

29 other NBA players averaged 20 points like Mitchell.

Only three players averaged 15/8/8…..

LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, and Ben Simmons.

To get a little deeper – Simmons had the advantage over Mitchell in the following categories:

Rebounds per game, assists per game, steals per game, blocks per game, FG%, charges drawn, win shares, deflections, PER, Opp FG%, Net rating, Triple doubles, double doubles, Assists:TO, Pass:TO, Fouls drawn, clutch FG%, Player Impact Estimate, Screen Assists, Real plus/minus, points/FGA, Opp efficiency, H2H wins, loose ball recoveries, points in the paint, Eff FG%, true shooting %, And-ones made, VORP, team record, Defensive Points Saved, True Points Added, points responsible for, <fouls per game, BPM, defensive BPM, offensive rating, defensive rating.

Mitchell had the advantage over Simmons in only:

Points per game, 3pt%, FT%, 20+ point games, offensive BPM, clutch points, <TO per game, offensive points added, dunk contests won.

In all the metrics and advanced stats that NBA teams and analysts use, I’d say that’s pretty comprehensive.

I get that Mitchell is more likeable and people find Simmons’ introversion comes across as aloof at times…. but I think a lot of people (casual fans in particular) can’t put their personal feelings about each player aside.

I also know a lot of people spout the "NoT a Ro0KiE!!!" nonsense as well….. Seriously though, if people honestly think missing a whole season with a BROKEN FOOT is somehow an advantage compared with playing a college season and improving by playing…. then they’ve obviously never played sport before.

Ask any athlete if they would improve more by WATCHING their sport or PLAYING their sport… and I think 100 out of 100 athletes you ask would rather improve by playing. That argument is really foolish, in my humble opinion. Imagine how great Simmons would be if he was in a major car accident and had to take THREE years off to recover from his injuries!?!?!

Ridiculous.

Sorry for ranting. It just pisses me off that people can be so unintelligent.

 Exactly. Plus so many NBA fans are embarrassing themselves believing that the playoffs somehow impact the various regular season awards.