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  • #68695
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    halfdecayed
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     Reported by woj, Charlotte is sending Dwight to Brooklyn for Mozgov and 2 2nd rounders + cash. This is will alow them to create to max slot for 2019-2020 season. 

    Interesting. Brooklyn could make the playoffs if everyone stays healthy.

     

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  • #1119968
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    HobbyOG
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     Not sure how this benefits CHA…Howard was the only shinning spot for them last year, now you have to trade Kemba because you’re not competiting next year…Sacremnto..Kings of the East..mean while DH getting traded more then stock and baseball cards..

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  • #1119970
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Charlotte is in rebuilding mode. They are going to build around Bacon and Monk plus this years draft pick. I see them trading Kemba very soon

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  • #1119969
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    high floor
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    Dwight finally gets to go to Brooklyn. He was holding Orlando hostage in 2012 demanding to be traded to them before getting to LA.

    Nah…… Brooklyn isn’t making the playoffs next year. They did this move to get off Mozgov’s money & to hopefully sell a couple hundred extra tickets per game. 

    Also this likely signals the end of the Kemba Walker era for Charlotee. Wisely, Charlotte is re-tooling

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  • #1119971
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    HobbyOG
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     I feel like CHA has always been rebuilding and can never get it right…they only thing consistent is them F’n up the draft. 

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  • #1119972
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    warson24

    The Hornets actually bought two second rounders (this year’s 46th and Nets’ 2021 second rounder per ESPN) for 16.7 million…. Is this really a wise way of a rebuilding process?

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  • #1119975
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     I get that Charlotte needs to rebuild, the question was what to do and when to do it with Kemba. But I am baffled by this move…

    Yes, Mozgov makes less money this year and the following, but he is on the hook for three total years. They save on the luxury tax this season, but the year 1 and year 2 savings get eaten up by the fact that he is on the books for year 3 – this doesnt mention the fact that he is terrible.

    Howard, for all his issues, was generally good last year and can serve a purpose with the Nets who have been buying low on a lot of players while accumulating assets. 2nd round picks certainly have value, but I am not sure I would pay a little over $8 million for each pick.

    So Charlotte has gotten worse in order to save some money on the luxury tax and obtain 2nd round picks.

    Gotta assume this means moving Kemba right?

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119976
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    high floor
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    New Charlotte GM Mitch Kupchak must really love him some Mozgov, going back to that head-scratching 4-year, 64 million dollar contract he gave back in 2016 w/ the Lakers

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  • #1119978
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    Hitster
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     Strange move as you’d think Charlotte would want all assets and not want to trade 2nd rounders away. The Hornets save some cash this summer but have extra on the cap for 2019-20.

    The Nets may want to improve but with them getting their picks back next year they don’t want to improve too much almost.

    I’d have thought a contender might have liked a year of D12 given he had only one year left on his deal and had a good season just gone.

     

     

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  • #1119979
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    HobbyOG
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     Does anyone think Kemba to the Suns is a good move? Or maybe to Orlando…He’s gone..but where to? 

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    • #1119982
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      NJBrown5
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      A lot of people have been saying Cleveland. The hope would be that getting Kemba could convince LeBron to stay since he’d be a heck of a better point guard and playmaking option.

      Only problem with that is Cleveland will be forced to make their draft pick tomorrow night and keep him 60 days before trading him away, by which point LeBron could long be gone. If LeBron does come back, though, I’d expect something along the lines of: Kemba/other player for 8th overall pick/George Hill

      Other more complicated scenarions have Kemba, Nic Batum, and Marvin Williams all going to CLE for some combination of Hill, Love, and 8th overall. It’s been pretty crazy what they’ve come up with.

       

       

       

       

       

       

        

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  • #1119980
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     I don’t think this necessarily means the Hornets have to tank … they have Zeller, Kaminsky and Hernangomez who are all probably more suited to today’s game than Dwight.

    As for Howard, he better bring it or he’s going to get beaten out by Jarrett Allen. Either way it doesn’t make sense for Brooklyn to cut back on the 20 mpg Allen averaged last year.

    If you thought Melo looked unhappy last year … what will Howard look like averaging 18 minutes a night on a 32-win team!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119983
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    JNixon
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     Wow Charlotte has been in rebuild mode every season in franchise history, until they win a playoff series I’m calling them the Bobcats 

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  • #1119985
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    I actually think Charlotte will get better with this trade. Addition by subtraction. Cody Zeller was the perfect center for them before he got injured as he had insane chemistry with Batum and Kemba. He also plays better D than Dwight on the perimeter.

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    • #1120019
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       I agree. Mozgov was a big part of that cavaliers championship team a few years back. The cavs couldn’t afford to pay him. So As a 29-30 year old player he went to a team in rebuilding mode in the lakers. He hasn’t gone down hill that much and he’s still a good player. I can see him starting for them. He’s an incredibly hard worker and good locker room guy. He runs the floor unlike bum a** Howard who is a cancer  and should be playing in China 

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      • #1120020
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        Scrooge McDuck
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         Anyone saying Dwight is good or a "beast" should just quit posting their thoughts. Not only is it not worth reading, it’s outright confusion and deliberate misleading. This is a wonderful trade by a decent GM Mitch Kupchek. And no this trade doesn’t mean Charlotte is rebuilding, DUMBA*****!!!!!!!!

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  • #1119986
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    therealhill24
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    Kupchak bring the bum ass Lakers to Charlotte. He better have something up his sleeve because Dwight was a beast in my opinion. 2 second rounder’s; this is a deep draft so maybe they get an assets,. Time will tell tomorrow.

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  • #1119987
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    thetruth87
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    What a terrible trade for the Hornets. They essentially traded Dwight’s expiring contract for 2 second rounders and an extra year of cap obligation with Mozgov. This is a head scratcher. Great move by the Nets who get the better player in the interim, and open up 2 max contract slots for 2019 for only 2 second round picks…

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  • #1119994
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     People are going on about the Nets having two have level spots. They have had cap space in recent years but to get a really top guy to go there on their own is difficult. With a chance to get a good running mate in and play near New York may appeal to them more.

    Could there still be issues between Mitch Kupchak and D12 from when D12 was with Lakers and I’ve also heard D12 wasn’t liked by his Charlotte team mates.

    Sean Marks has saved money and D12 may even look for a buyout if he’d rather be on a contender so Nets could save more cash.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1120000
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     Hornets were only $750,000 from luxury tax this year. This trade gives them like 8 million to spend and fill out roster, while staying under the tax. Not saying I like the move, but it seems more like a more to compete than rebuild in my opinion. It makes zero sense to make this more than trade Kemba, but who knows look who there GM is.

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  • #1120014
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    mowesten
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    Dude, nobody wants to play with Howard, have him on their team or be around him longer than five minutes. This is his sixth team in eight years. We’ll be talking about him on a different team this time next year because while he was worth the headache when he was younger, he’s not worth the hassle now. As soon as a team gets him they figure this out and start looking for a way out.

    He’s like a yacht — looks great, but not worth the money or the trouble.

     

     

     

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    • #1120080
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       First, the 6 teams in 8 years is misleading. He was in Orlando for 7 years and chose to be traded. They wanted him to stay. He was in LA for 1 year. They wanted him to stay. He was in Houston for 3 years. They wanted him to stay. Atlanta and Charlotte are the only two teams that traded him against his will

      No teammate has said they had problems with  Dwight or didn’t want to play with him. Kemba praised him all year. Monk and the younger guys praised him. Steve Clifford praised him. Not sure where Brendan Haywood get that he was not like in the locker room, a few inside reporters for the Hornets tweeted out today that they hadn’t heard one single negative thing about Dwight all year and that it was unfair for Haywood or anyone else to ssay that because he was traded.

       

      I knew Dwight was out the door the moment Kupchak got the job. He traded the guy that rejected him and brought in the guy that he gave a ridicoulous contract too lol.

       

       

       

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      • #1120124
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        mowesten
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         Yeah, okay, my fault: Seven team in eight years. Brooklyn would rather pay him money to just go away. 

        Funny because I said we would be talking about him being on a different team next year, and I was totally wrong. We’re talking about him being on a different team this week, but yeah, you’ve got it figured out bro. 

         

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  • #1120021
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     I like what Brooklyn is doing. Mozgov clearly wasn’t going to help them and Howard has an expiring deal that could possibly be moved again during the season. If he plays decent than a contending team could possibly be baited into giving up a first rounder for him. If not, you maybe just buy him out after the all-star break. Either way, I don’t expect him to finish the season in Brooklyn. 

    It amazing how far Dwight has fallen that Charlotte was willing to take mozgovs awful contract and just 2 second rounders just to get rid of him. And that’s the best they could do. They honestly might have been better just holding onto him for the time being.

     

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  • #1120031
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    The Goat
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     Brooklyn did well here. No one wants Mozgov with this contract. No one. Not even Charlotte so i dont understand their move. There must be something else up. They are paying 20+million for 2 second rounders? Please. They have massive overpayments to worry about already – Look at their books, theres several (borderline unproductive) players owed a combined 40+mil. Perhaps they are packaging some of these mediocre contracts and #9 to move up to #4 and take Parsons bad contract back instead…? Not sure, but this cant be their only move. 

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  • #1120035
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    llperez

    Like others have said, not really liking move for hornets. I would prefer Dwight’s overpriced 1 year than mozgovs overpriced 2 years. And second rounders and some cash is chump change to sweeten the deal. Mozgov must have some dirty info on kipchak. Hey while you’re at it Mitch, come get Luol deng too please!

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  • #1120066
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    You couldn’t do this trade when you’re playing 2k.. This is a bad trade for Charlotte, Dwight Howard was playing with confidence this past year. They get stuck with Mozgov’s bad contract. MJ, what have you done again?

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