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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2018 - 3:48pm #68601
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     Is it me or has Isaac Haas from Purdue vanished from the face of the earth? Yes, I am aware about both the lawsuit and the elbow injury, but he has said that he has been eager to show teams what he can do and yet has not worked out for anyone as far as I know. Does anyone of you guys have any info? I mean I have even seen some players that are completely unknown to me working out for teams and in my opinion he would be a really decent second rounder. Before I get hated on because he is slow and unathletic just think of some current NBA centers like Salah Mejri, Mason Plumlee , Cole Aldrich. They all might be different types of players than Haas, but does any of them really offer anything special to their teams? I remember when I rooted like crazy for Steven Adams back when he was a freshman at Pitt and would get laughed on because I was suggesting he could be a decent NBA center lol.. So if anyone has heard anything let me know, it would be just sad for a player like him to fade into obscurity

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/09/2018 - 5:13pm #1119066
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     Haven’t seen Mitchell Robinson doing workout, I could be wrong, anyone heard ??

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  • Posted on: Sun, 06/10/2018 - 9:27am #1119103
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     To be honest, I don’t think haas has a very good chance of getting drafted no matter how many teams he works out for. 10-15 years ago, I’m sure he would’ve been a late first to early second rounder based on his size alone, but the nba has changed a lot since than and gms have gotten much smarter on how they evaluate talent and potential. The truth is haas just doesn’t bring much to the table in the modern nba game. For a guy his size, he is literally one of the worst rebounders and shot blockers I’ve ever seen. He seems physically incapable of making quick reactions on the floor. Unless the ball basically falls right into his hands, he is not getting any rebounds and his instincts as a shot blocker are terrible. About the only thing he can do is score with his back to the basket and make free throws at a respectable rate, but even his effectiveness as a low post threat is mitigated by his inability to read double teams and make the right pass. If you are a 7-2 300 center that can’t rebound or protect the rim there is really just no place for you in the league today.

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/10/2018 - 12:40pm #1119112
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       I know the game has changed quite a bit nowadays but personally I wouldn’t think twice before spending a second round pick on him. To me a really good team, even in today’s NBA, is a complete and balanced team. You need pace and space as much as you need traditional D and post play, and you need a versatile 4-position guy as much as you need an old school center, a tree in the middle. Even if he comes in for 5 minutes, the more ways you can threaten an opponent, the better. 

      About his game now, I agree with you that he is a defensive liability. But it’s not a problem that can’t be solved ( the NBA training level can really make miracles happen, and agility is no exception) , with a good weak side defender complementing him down low for example. Yes, he is slow and unathletic, but I’m not so sure his instincts are to blame for his reaction time, or that they are sub-par. And having watched literally every Purdue game he has played, trust me when I tell you he can pass out of the double team quite well. He’s no Sabonis or Yao, but do you think Painter could have built an entire offensive system around him last year (making Purdue one the most efficient teams outside the 3 line) if he wasn’t at least good at passing out?  His free throws are dropping at a very good percentage for a center, to be fair. 

      All in all, sure he isn’t a freak of nature and he is below average at protecting the rim, but let’s be honest, we can’t know if he is such a terrible rebounder, all he had to do in college was box out and let his teammates collect the ball. I haven’t heard of any 7-2 300 pounder that was a  good rim protector apart from Shaq, and the most interesting facts about him if you ask me, are that he grew up idolizing The Big Fundamental , and that he stayed all 4 years and finished college, which say a lot. Just my opinion though.

       

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      • Posted on: Sun, 06/10/2018 - 1:12pm #1119115
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        I saw a lot of haas in college (although maybe not as much as you did) and the one thing that always struck me was how slow he was to react, whether it was to jump to the ball on a rebound or making a defensive rotation. It’s clearly not an effort thing, it just seems like he processes the game a step slower than most players. Or maybe it’s that his body just isn’t capable of reacting. Whatever the case, I’m not sure it’s something that can really be corrected even with the highest level of training available.

        Haas was a very good college player who can be devestating at times in the low post with size. The fact that he shoots free throws at a respectable rate is an added bonus. But other than that, his game is very limited. He could probably make a decent living playing somewhere, but I highly doubt he’ll have any type of nba career. If I had to guess, I’d say the reason he hasn’t worked out for teams is because teams aren’t all that interested.

         

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        • Posted on: Sun, 06/10/2018 - 1:48pm #1119119
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           I see what you’re saying and it’s true that this is the way it appeared to be, but in my opinion the college game slowed down for him finally, during his junior and much more his senior season. The problem for me is that he is really heavy and slow at the lower half of his body, I mean he has very heavy legs both literally and figuratively.. hence the really slow defensive rotation that you correctly mentioned. I think that it could be fixed by losing 15-20 pounds but the risk of taking away a part of his lethal back to basket game is too big.. I agree he has a limited game but to say he has no potential seems a bit unfair. If you play 2k we could agree that Ayton has like a 85 rating for potential but I could see Haas improving to, though at a rate much slower than others players’, having a rating of 50 for example. I’m pretty sure it’s the elbow though, I’ve seen players much less relevant than him working out and there is no way his agent couldn’t find him a workout right?

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